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Vukota
01-10-2005, 07:54 PM
<DIV>Has any one had a chance to read this book? Apparently this is the first of many EQ novels. I have a copy but have yet had the time to sit down and read it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~~Vuk</DIV>

Darkr
01-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Really good book. I like the direction R.A. Salvatore (not the author, but the person responsible for the entire EQ-based books coming to fruition) wants to take all EQ-based books. Rather than furthering the lore of the EQ world on a large scale, they're going to instead tell the 'small stories'...simply using the world of EQ as their canvas. It's a great way to go...it leaves all of the aspects of the story completely up to the author as long as they stay within the larger framework of everything that's out there right now in the way of EQ lore and history. The great part is that this frees the author up to not have to go into a lot of the mundane details that other books have to cover. We know what the magic is...we know the geography...we know what a shadow knight is, a Bloodsaber, etc, etc. The author can simply tell their story...and the author of "A Rogue's Hour" has a great story to tell that will leave you guessing until the last page of the book. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Vukota
01-11-2005, 02:18 AM
<DIV>Thanks for the insight <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I will make sure to set some time aside to read it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~~Vuk</DIV>

Darkr
01-11-2005, 07:35 PM
I always thought an EQ based book sounded like it wasn't worth the time to read either, but my brother-in-law bought the book for me for Christmas and I didn't have anything else handy to read. Glad I took the time <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Darkay
01-11-2005, 09:07 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vukota wrote:<BR> <DIV>Has any one had a chance to read this book? Apparently this is the first of many EQ novels. I have a copy but have yet had the time to sit down and read it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~~Vuk</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>The framework for the story is uninspired and trite. Without giving away details, the plot revolves around a young man who has awoken with no memory of his past or knowledge of self and must find out who he is, why he's where he is, and what's happened to him.</P> <P>Sound familiar? It should, because you've read or heard the same insipid story told over and over in popular media nearly since the inception of the form. At its best, this trope impels a journey of self-discovery which is revelatory in some larger sense. If the goal of literature is to reveal larger truths about the human condition, this is one fairly obvious mechanism for doing it. <U>Rogue's Hour</U> doesn't live up to the promise of its structure, though.</P> <P>Fantasy novels generally play by different rules than popular or literary fiction, but share certain commonalities in the genre. The most compelling aspects that define the best fantasy literature of the past are generally absent here. There is no richness of detail or depth of character. The writing is flat and uninspired. We follow the adventures of the hero, but the author never rises to the occasion of inviting us to care whether the outcome is successful or not. </P> <P>Ciencin seems to have written from an outline and against a deadline with no real awareness of, or attention to, transitional mechanisms to propel his plot. He repeatedly takes the easy way out and provides the most facile of explanations to present his hero's journey. Often, that voyage seems only vaguely charted and overly flimsy. Sometimes, it doesn't even make sense and the reader finds himself wondering not as much *how* we got from point A to point B as *why* we needed to be there in the first place. While he doesn't disappoint to the extent of being formulaic, I'd argue that is more the result of an unfamiliarity with the world than a conscious decision to avoid the mundane. I didn't get the feeling that Ciencin was very comfortable in Norrath or knowledgable about its inhabitants.</P> <P>I give the book a D+ and suggest that you not waste the time reading it. Given the wealth of fiction available in a fantasy setting (Especially in Salvatore's own favorite playground of the Forgotten Realms), your literary dollars would be better spent elsewhere. </P>

Jaxsyn
01-11-2005, 10:15 PM
<DIV>Have to agree with you Dark.  I couldn't even finish the thing.  Everytime I picked it up it put me to sleep.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That said, I love the whole concept of novels set in the world of Everquest.  Mr. Salvatore just needs to enlist some competent fantasy writers to work with him on the project.  The first guy he found certainly isn't one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Cheq</DIV>

Darkr
01-12-2005, 01:31 AM
A lot of what Darkayne said is true. The character development is very weak in this story. It's certainly formulaic in that it follows the general story line he set out. But I still feel that the actual story he's telling is interesting, fun, and worth the read. It's definitely NOT 'literature'...I'd compare it to reading a book that was adapted from a movie. It's a simple recounting of a story that happened within the world of Everquest. If you come into it looking for great literature, great character development, or even great detail you'll come out disappointed. If you come in like me expecting nothing of the experience other than to hopefully be entertained, I think you'll end up happy with the experience.

MysticTrunks01
01-12-2005, 04:10 AM
<DIV>The story was pretty unoriginal, but  the story itself was neat.  I just didn't like the writer i think.  His writing was really jerk and haphazard.  Very, VERY little description.. if i hadn't played EQ I would have been completely lost.. heck, even playing EQ it was a bit confusing because he expanded on the city and the areas around it, but didn't detail the layouts or anything.  You'd be doing one thing and suddenly some place else.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I did like the humor of the books characts, both good and bad.  It only gets decently interesting half way through though, the first half is just so so and the characters are pretty weak and 2 demensional.</DIV>

Vukota
01-12-2005, 08:10 PM
<DIV>Hahaha now I'm completely torn. Thanks for all the reviews guys...being a huge fan of EQ I still think I'll give it a whirl and more then likely end being disappointed. I've been hooked on the Robert Jordan "Wheel of Time" novels and from the looks of it this Ciencin guy is no Robert Jordan.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~~Vuk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://antonicasnameless.eq2guilds.org" target=_blank>http://antonicasnameless.eq2guilds.org</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Darkr
01-12-2005, 09:17 PM
Yep, I think the reason I liked the story is the reason some people disliked it. It was an INCREDIBLY fast read for me due to the lack of description...it was something I could pick up for reading right before bed or heading to the bathroom and knock out a chapter or two in a few minutes. The beginning is slow as Mystic mentioned, but it really takes off about halfway through. It's a 'neat' and fun story. I wouldn't personally buy it in hardcover, but if you get it in paperback or from the library/as a present, it's well worth the read (especially since it takes so little time to read).

Kindler
01-14-2005, 01:39 AM
<DIV>*boggles* Dark, you reviewed it like it was billed as War and Peace and what you got was Star Magazine's "All About Jennifer Aniston's Hair!" issue. This is not some high-brow piece of literature, and I don't think anyone is confused about that. I wasn't in love with the book. I agree, it was a tired plot. But you seriously sound like a reviewer for the New Yorker or something. I think your expectations were a little high for what the book was. *chuckle* I assumed it was fluffy entertainment, which it was. It wasn't the DaVinci Code or whatever big book is grabbing people lately.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You seem to have a good idea of what makes a compelling story. Why don't you write one based on EQ2 or something and pitch Salvatore? It's bound to be deeper than this book.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Arana Faywhisper</DIV> <DIV>Wood Elven Warden</DIV> <DIV>Co-Leader, Fellowship of the Dragon</DIV> <DIV>Antonia Bayle</DIV>

MysticTrunks01
01-16-2005, 12:08 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vukota wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hahaha now I'm completely torn. Thanks for all the reviews guys...being a huge fan of EQ I still think I'll give it a whirl and more then likely end being disappointed. I've been hooked on the Robert Jordan "Wheel of Time" novels and from the looks of it this Ciencin guy is no Robert Jordan.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~~Vuk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://antonicasnameless.eq2guilds.org/" target=_blank>http://antonicasnameless.eq2guilds.org</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Hopefully the other books will get better writers or maybe Salvatore can write it himself (this would be preferable)  Heck, i'd take Kevin Anderson of this Ciencin guy</FONT></DIV>

Darkay
01-17-2005, 09:58 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kindler wrote:<BR> <DIV>*boggles* Dark, you reviewed it like it was billed as War and Peace and what you got was Star Magazine's "All About Jennifer Aniston's Hair!" issue. This is not some high-brow piece of literature, and I don't think anyone is confused about that. I wasn't in love with the book. I agree, it was a tired plot. But you seriously sound like a reviewer for the New Yorker or something. I think your expectations were a little high for what the book was. *chuckle* I assumed it was fluffy entertainment, which it was. It wasn't the DaVinci Code or whatever big book is grabbing people lately.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>I'm a writer.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Even if I don't write fiction currently - that is what I went to school for.  Sometimes I take 'em a little too seriously.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You seem to have a good idea of what makes a compelling story. Why don't you write one based on EQ2 or something and pitch Salvatore? It's bound to be deeper than this book.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>I'm working on it!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Arana Faywhisper</DIV> <DIV>Wood Elven Warden</DIV> <DIV>Co-Leader, Fellowship of the Dragon</DIV> <DIV>Antonia Bayle</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

Kindler
01-19-2005, 12:25 AM
<DIV>Well! When you finish I'd be interested to see what you dream up!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Arana Faywhisper</DIV> <DIV>Wood Elven Warden</DIV> <DIV>Co-Leader, Fellowship of the Dragon</DIV> <DIV>Antonia Bayle</DIV>

MysticTrunks01
01-19-2005, 01:41 AM
<DIV>It does surprise me that they don't have more books.  The game has a great history and lore... look at Star Wars.. it had only 3 movies and had dozens of books.  And almost triple that since the last two...  EQ (before the SW books) easily has more content than those movies yet.. the only have one slightly ok book.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*boogles*</DIV>

Viromage
01-25-2005, 12:37 AM
<DIV>Just to toss my 2 cents in, I am not a reader of this type of material, I tend to follow Tom Clancy but I picked this up just because I enjoy playing EQlive and EQ2.  I am only half way through the book but I find it an interesting read just based on the 5 years of EQ play I have had I can kinda picture stuff happening with toons I know and have played in EQ.  So far I find it an enjoyable read but again I don't live and breathe this type of book so for me this is fresh.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just my 2 cents...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>