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Riis bal-Tann
12-09-2004, 03:09 AM
Could some kind soul whip together a timeline of events from around EQ1 to present? Of interest is as exact an accounting of the Shattering and the changes that make every player that comes into the game a "refugee." RbT

Keld
12-10-2004, 06:52 AM
<DIV>I'm sorry I dont have a detailed time line for you, but I do know that the EQ1 stuff happened about 500 years ago from the current time of "now" (EQ2). Between then and now, the Gods left, the moon exploded and we all became refugees <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm pretty sure that somewhere on the EQ2 official web site, there is some storyline explaining the years ib-between EQ1 and EQ2. </DIV>

Riis bal-Tann
12-10-2004, 09:24 PM
I think it would be an interesting project, as we uncover lore books in the game. I keep finding what I feel are inconsistancies in when things have happened, but not being an expert on EQ1 era lore has hindered me.RbT

BabyAm
12-11-2004, 04:19 AM
The devs have said different people view events differently and that based on what they want from you they will tell you different perspectives on the past. They said there are many inconsistencies in the ingame lore and its intentional. As of right now there isnt any really hard timeline and I doubt their ever will be.

BabyAm
12-11-2004, 04:20 AM
Cant edit yet....the reason I doubt it is that defining a definate timeline sets a static end for EQlive which I doubt the devs would want to do since its still going strong.

NocteBla
12-11-2004, 04:48 AM
<DIV> <DIV> <DIV>timetimetimetimetimetimetimetimetimetimetimetimeti metimetimetimetimetimetime <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>lol... no seriously</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think Moorgard had promised something like this before release... might try hitting him up for it.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by NocteBlanc on <span class=date_text>12-10-2004</span> <span class=time_text>03:48 PM</span>

Cronad
12-13-2004, 05:37 AM
<DIV>Here is a site that I use for EQ Lore till just before the 10 chapters of the story leading up to EQ II. :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://my.core.com/~mickiep/lore/lore.htm" target=_blank>http://my.core.com/~mickiep/lore/lore.htm</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And here is a link to the stories that were meant to bridge the gap between EQ I and II.:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/lore.vm?section=chapter_01" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/lore.vm?section=chapter_01</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hope these help.  :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Aredhel of Felwithe</DIV> <DIV>Lucan D'Lere server</DIV>

Niu
12-13-2004, 05:46 AM
<DIV>One of my pet lore tidbits from EQ1 is the Eyes of Cazic-Thule. It's a small supernaturally-lit cross-shaped cave in the swamps that some Trolls came across, encountering Cazic-Thule for the first time and being corrupted into the first Trollish shadowknights. Soon enough many Trolls were shadowknights and their control across the land was ultimate. Slowly though, the swamp reclaimed the Eyes of Cazic-Thule and the Troll shadowknights lost their momentum. It was common prophecy that in the future the Eyes of Cazic-Thule shall see sunlight once more and at that point, the Trolls will rule over Antonica once more.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But there's plenty of catalysm-style lore tidbits in EQI that point in this general direction, especially in the PoK library. Another one would be the Plane of the Underfoot underneath Paineel having its seal damaged, potentially bursting open again. The last time the Plane of the Underfoot was opened, it was only by the assistance of famed gnome mages like Al Kabor that Qeynos was saved by the elementals.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There's the lore about the goblins being once as strong as the orcs and intelligent as the dark elves but the gods grew cautious of their power and destroyed their civilization, splitting the goblins into four major amnesiac goblin tribes, each with a part of the great mystical staff that was the emblem of their once-strong civilization.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The point is that there's a lot of factors hinted at throughout EQ at what may or may not have happened in this time period.</DIV>

Niu
12-13-2004, 05:57 AM
<DIV>Another interesting thing is the original war that broke up the Elvish Empire of lore. It's been hinted that before the Shattering, another war broke out with the Dark Elves killing the High Elven emperor but I have yet to substantiate that story. Anyhow to the story of the Elven war. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Dark Elves, not dark yet, were in control of an Empire reaching from Faydwer to right around HHK. Innoruuk was worshipped as a benevolent god still but the other elves saw through the concealment and rebelled openly. The High Elves manipulated the Wood Elves into striking the Dark Elves first. The first action of the civil war was the burning of the outpost where Freeport stands now. The elves crossed the Ocean of Tears but the dwarves would have no part in the conflict. </DIV> <DIV>The two great armies, High Elves and Dark Elves, fought endlessly across the continent, slowly inching towards the Dark Elven capital near Felwithe. Suddenly the tides changed and the High Elves were outgunned so to speak. Suddenly an elven arrow flew through the battlefield, slaying the Dark Elven Emperor just feet away from the walls of today's Felwithe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Innoruuk, afraid for his elves on this losing day, managed somehow to have the earth swallow them whole, leading the Dark Elves away to safety in Neriak. The High Elves rebuilt the capital of Felwithe and the Wood Elves, mostly abandoning their feral nature, settled in Kelethin, always wary of the Dark Elven menace.</DIV>

NocteBla
12-16-2004, 04:56 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Niuro wrote:<BR> <DIV>Another interesting thing is the original war that broke up the Elvish Empire of lore. It's been hinted that before the Shattering, another war broke out with the Dark Elves killing the High Elven emperor but I have yet to substantiate that story. Anyhow to the story of the Elven war. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Dark Elves, not dark yet, were in control of an Empire reaching from Faydwer to right around HHK. Innoruuk was worshipped as a benevolent god still but the other elves saw through the concealment and rebelled openly. The High Elves manipulated the Wood Elves into striking the Dark Elves first. The first action of the civil war was the burning of the outpost where Freeport stands now. The elves crossed the Ocean of Tears but the dwarves would have no part in the conflict. </DIV> <DIV>The two great armies, High Elves and Dark Elves, fought endlessly across the continent, slowly inching towards the Dark Elven capital near Felwithe. Suddenly the tides changed and the High Elves were outgunned so to speak. Suddenly an elven arrow flew through the battlefield, slaying the Dark Elven Emperor just feet away from the walls of today's Felwithe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Innoruuk, afraid for his elves on this losing day, managed somehow to have the earth swallow them whole, leading the Dark Elves away to safety in Neriak. The High Elves rebuilt the capital of Felwithe and the Wood Elves, mostly abandoning their feral nature, settled in Kelethin, always wary of the Dark Elven menace.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>That's all Codex of War stuff. Not valid.</DIV>

Aion
12-16-2004, 07:28 PM
<DIV>Whats the codex of war?</DIV>

Aringi
12-16-2004, 08:02 PM
<blockquote><hr>Aion wrote:<DIV>Whats the codex of war?</DIV><hr></blockquote>A lot of fan based lore not actual EVerquest lore from SOE or VI. Stuff keeps poping up and quoted but none of it is true.

Base
12-16-2004, 08:26 PM
<DIV>first before i start i only ever played eq2 but from doing some books this is what i discovered.</DIV> <DIV>THe dark elves were created in secret by innorak who was not invited to make their followers when all the gods met. The dark elves were made in secret in the dark hence the dark skins. Second from what i found out there was a war between the high elves and dark elves when the armies of the tier'dal decided to invade the high elves. Dark elves were winning pushing when the halflings decided to join with the high elves turning the tide of battle. pushing the tier'dal back to neriak. during this battle the halfings destroyed the entrance to neriak located in nekultalos causing tier'dal on the outside to never to return to neriak. However it seems a new entrance was mined to conect to the gate area of neriak known as the fallen gate. Now there have been rumours around that there is a quest to gt in to the main city of neriak but i cannot confirm this.</DIV>

Lodrelhai
12-17-2004, 03:10 AM
<P>There's an intro video in-game that gives a rough timeline, it pops up just after you create a new character, before you start the Long Voyage/Isle of Refuge.  Gods supposedly turned their backs, but left avatars.  Avatars of chaotic gods took control of the Nexus, making travel to and from the moon impossible, likewise making it much more difficult for Norathians to travel across Norath (though it says nothing about this affecting the gates to PoK, so not sure how that happens).  Suspicion and dischord grew, chaos armies massed, Qeynos and Freeport formed an aliance to fight the forces of chaos.  They were on the verge of losing, then the gods of order stepped in, trounced the forces of chaos.  After that was massive catyclysms that tore apart Antonica, followed by the explosion of Luclin.  Years of darkness and rebuilding, and now Qeynos and Freeport are the centers of civilization.</P> <P>Things I find interesting in this are that only Antonica is mentioned in the video as being affected by the catyclysms.  No word what happened to the other continents, though I imagine forces strong enough to shatter the biggest continent into islands probably made short work of the others.  Also, there was apparently a lack of travel or communication to or from Luclin for quite some time, possibly years, before Luclin was shattered.</P> <P>My pet theory is that the citizens of Shar Val and Shadowhaven, as well as any and all adventurers stuck in Luclin when the forces of chaos took the portal, were involved in an equally pitched battle against those forces.  Combining this with EQ1 lore, that the Priests of Dischord believe the Muramites world is the plane of Dischord/Chaos... perhaps the Nexus was being used to mass an army of Muramites to attack the broken lands of Norath.  The catyclysms could very well have been originating from there, as well, as a softening blow, since the first armies of chaos were defeated at the last, supported by the fact that the catyclysms stopped when the moon exploded.  In all likelyhood, Luclin's explosion was either caused by the chaos forces as a final strike against the adventurers fighting them on Luclin, or by the adventurers themselves, as a final sacrafice to stop the earth-shattering attacks on Norath and prevent the chaos armies from reaching the broken world.</P> <P>Just my thoughts.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

Base
12-17-2004, 04:54 AM
<DIV>dunno if this is true but from what my friend told me he said that when the gods interfered and stopped the armies attacking freeport and queynos ralloss zek god( i think) sent his avataar in but then another avataar was sent in by the other gods. (not sure the name) which killed the avataar which dropped the a sword which lucan d'lrere picked up and became immortal and evil. not sure if this is true or mixed up. correct if wrong please</DIV>

Kamimura
12-17-2004, 05:25 AM
<DIV>Actually, the Gods didnt stop the armies directly. The army made the Avatar of Fear angry, because they defiled the temple of Cazic Thule. So, the Avatar of Fear releases his weapon, Green Mist, against the Ogres which killed most of them. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The entire story you're talking about can be found here: <A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/lore_index.vm" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/lore_index.vm</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also the sword didnt make Lucan immortal, or evil, he was both of those even before the sword came along.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kamimura on <span class=date_text>12-16-2004</span> <span class=time_text>07:26 PM</span>

Riis bal-Tann
12-17-2004, 05:32 AM
Is that Green Mist the same one the Iksar were talking about? Is Cazic-Thule just busting out green mist all the time? RbT

Kamimura
12-17-2004, 05:34 AM
<DIV>Yes, same green mist. It's only been used twice over hundereds of years, and only when Cazic is super mad about something. </DIV>