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Fiflif
11-18-2004, 10:18 PM
<DIV><FONT size=3>I'm looking for a little background info and lore on the paladins in norrath. I've always loved the Knights of Solomnia in the dragonlance books so I thought I might start a paladin over here and would like a little background info on the knighthood of norrath. Any links or other threads I've missed would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone knows any common phrases in norrath like "Est Sularus oth Mithas" /My Honor is My Life from dragonlance would be good to know to</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Thanks </FONT></DIV>

Kamimura
11-18-2004, 11:56 PM
<DIV>Well, I can tell you of the knight factions as they existed in EQL...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Starting with the high elves (or half elves). High elves were paladins of tunare, called the Koada'Vie. They fought against anything that would hurt the other elves, like orcs, and undead. They hated the dark elves (ok, most paladins did..)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Humans (and also half elves) had a few orders. In Freeport (they are of course no longer there) the paladins of Mithanel Marr (god of honor, valor, and truth - often called the truth bringer) and the paladins of Erollisi Marr (goddess of love, the two were twins) fought against the freeport militia in the time of EQL. They saw Lucan as a threat to the well being of the citizens, and as someone very evil. Turns out they were right. They also fought against the dismal rage/the followers of innoruuk (prince of hate). </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In Qeynos the temple of life had it's paladins. They worshiped Rodcet Nife, the prime healer. They fought against disease and death, and hated the followes of Bertoxxulous (the plague lord). You can see this temple still standing today, very very similiar to the way it was 500 years ago. In the time of EQL they spent quite a while (as a GM sort of event) trying to clean the plains of Karana from the disease the followers of bertoxxulous were spreading. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also in Qeynos was the order of thunder. The paladins of the order of thunder worshiped Karana (the storm lord) and his ability to give life, and respected his ability to take it as well. They were allies with the temple of life, and shared the same enemies.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Erudites had two paladin factions as well. The first were the Deepwater Knights. They followed the ocean lord, Prexus. They are an old order. They protect the oceans, and everything in it. Many fishermen and sailors followed Prexus as well. The deepwater knights thought that one day Prexus would return and flood the world embracing the true followers and consuming those unworthy.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The second order was the temple of tranquility, they followed Quellious. She is a child goddess of inner peace and tranquility. They seek inner peace and a knowledge of everything around them, they want to help others attain this enlightenment. Through this sharing of knowledge they believe peace will spread through the universe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Froglok paladins (and well, all frogloks) worshiped Mithanel Marr, because he gave them their intellegence. They strive for honor and valor, and want to rid Norrath of anything evil. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Halflings paladins were followers of Karana. Dwarf and gnome paladins were followers of Brell Serilis. I dont know much about these factions myself.. </DIV> <DIV>You can read more on the Gods here though.. <A href="http://eqlive.station.sony.com/library/deities.jsp" target=_blank>http://eqlive.station.sony.com/library/deities.jsp</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you're interested in any of those factions I can tell you whatever more information I know. Including what happened to them/where they are now if I know that. Id just add it in now, but a little short on time at the moment. Maybe someone else can fill in some info for you too. :smileyhappy:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kamimura on <span class=date_text>11-18-2004</span> <span class=time_text>01:59 PM</span>

Fiflif
11-19-2004, 05:14 AM
<DIV>You are great! I really like the sound of Mithaniel Marr.  I guess that explains all the Marr ruins I found exploring freeport. I think I shall strive to be one of the few remaining Marr knights <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />!</DIV>

Kamimura
11-20-2004, 12:05 AM
<DIV>There is a little more info on Lucan/the militia and the knights of truth here</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=178" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=178</A></DIV> <DIV>That might be helpful too. Especially the part near the end with the <FONT face="Courier New">TESTIMONY TRUTH for roleplaying.</FONT></DIV>

troodon311
11-20-2004, 01:49 PM
<DIV>Seeing as you seem new to the lore of Norrath, Mithanel Marr and Erollisi Marr together created the Barbarian race from which both Humans and Erudites are decended.  And, as stated above, Mithanel also created the Guktan Frogloks (I'm not sure if he created all Frogloks or just the Guktans, I think the former).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe that will help you out somehow :smileyhappy:</DIV>

Fiflif
11-22-2004, 02:50 PM
<DIV>Thank you 2 so much. Based on this stuff my future crusader and future paladin Mythandar the Kerran is running around Lucan right now. Thanks again! </DIV>

Oxulatlan
11-24-2004, 03:13 PM
<DIV>To clarify Mithanel Marr's involvement with the frogloks, he didn't create the species. He bestowed virture, honor, and intelligence to a small number of frogloks of Guk that assisted him with some task. The Guktans had existed prior to that, I'm not certain who created them, but it's wasn't either of the Marr gods.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyways, it was from the small group of divinely altered Guktans that the Froglok people as we see them now came to be. Sanctimonious frogs. What's next? *sighs*</DIV>

Amery
11-24-2004, 11:59 PM
<DIV>While we're speaking of Qeynosian orders, for the sake of completeness, I must mention my ancestor's foes: the shadowknights of Bertoxxulous the Plaguebringer from Qeynos, known as the Bloodsabers.  Their temple lay beneath the city concealed amid the sewers and catacombs and their corruption spread into the Bayle family itself - Kane Bayle, whom I believe was brother to Antonious Bayle, was a Bloodsaber.  I do not know if any remnants of their temple remain, but I have espied the remnants of the Bloodsaber cult in the Down Below.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Family journals tell of the corrupting of the Plains of Karana, where the Thundering Steppe now lies, which was brought about by the Bloodsabers and eventually reversed by the followers of Rodcet Nife.  The journals also tell of battles in the catacombs against the Bloodsabers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/ooc - Strictly speaking the Bloodsabers included all of Bertoxxulous' followers in Qeynos, with the shadowknights being the military arm of the cult.  Freeport had an equivalent evil order, but I'm not sure what deity they worshipped. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>/ic - The Koada'Vie have been mentioned, and the halfling paladins of Karana, but no one has yet mentioned the stalwart dwarven and gnomish paladins of Brell, or the halfling paladins of Bristlebane the Mischievous.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Amerygn</DIV> <DIV>Bard of Qeynos</DIV></DIV>

Kamimura
11-25-2004, 02:56 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Oxulatlan wrote:<BR> <DIV>To clarify Mithanel Marr's involvement with the frogloks, he didn't create the species. He bestowed virture, honor, and intelligence to a small number of frogloks of Guk that assisted him with some task. The Guktans had existed prior to that, I'm not certain who created them, but it's wasn't either of the Marr gods.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>I heard once it was Prexus, but im not sure I believe that. Never seen an in game source for it, and most lore tells that the Kedge was the only race Prexus ever created. Froglok history can be a little hard to sort out, because it seems whatever was around pre LoY doesnt fully match with the LoY lore. The Frogloks we know now are consitered to be 'created' by Mith Marr, but it is true they were actually only 'enlightened' by him. </P> <P>The Bloodsabers are indeed still around, and ive heard rumors that Kane Bayle is burried somewhere under Qeynos. Kane was a warrior trainer for the bloodsabers. And indeed, Bloodsabers were made up of all sorts of classes (shadow knight, warrior, cleric, necromancer, magician, enchanter, and wizards.)</P> <P>That plague on the Karanas was started by the bloodsabers, but they also had some outside help (bandits, and some gnolls). Their plan was to unleash a very deadly plague to kill all life from Qeynos to what then was Highpass. To avoid the plague themselves the followers of the plague lord were marked with special runes. However, their work was sloppy and the man in charge was caught and put to death. The plague of their plans never happened, but for revenge a lesser plague was put over the plains of Karana. The temple of life was eventually able to end this lesser plague.</P> <DIV>Freeport's order is/was the Dismal Rage, they are still around. They were made up of the same classes as the bloodsabers, only they were followers of Innoruuk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Actually, Halfling paladins worship Karana (as do their druids). The second to last paragrahp of my first post told a small amount of all those races, but I dont know anymore about them than who they worshiped. Any additional information would be great to have though.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(Edit, im a bad speller.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Kamimura on <span class=date_text>11-24-2004</span> <span class=time_text>04:59 PM</span>

FallingByTheWaysi
11-26-2004, 12:51 AM
<P>Two things: </P> <P>1.  Prexus apparently created more races than the Kedge.  I refer you to the "Creatures" tab of the main site, there Prexus is given as the creator of the Siren<BR></P> <DIV>2. I've been trying to dig up Froglok lore for a friend.  One of the best sources of their creation story (as well as that of the barbarians) is found in-game in EQL at the library in the Plane of Knowledge.  Its a free, rentable book called "From Pond to Paladin" and it's one of my favorite stories.  Unfortunately I've lost access to it since letting my EQL account expire :smileysad: , but if anyone were to post it's content here they would be IMMEASURABLY cool :smileytongue:</DIV>

Kamimura
11-26-2004, 03:08 AM
<DIV>My noble kinsman, I bring to you the knowledge of our origins, as well as the origins of Man, that have been bestowed upon me by the scholars of the City of New Tanaan, and those who have visited the Halls of Honor, home of our Lord Mithaniel Marr. I am but a humble Paladin of Mithaniel Marr, born like many of our kind in the swamps of Southern Antonica. I deserve no adulation for penning these words. This work is in honor of all Froglok, current, past and yet to come. <DIV> <P>In the early ages of Norrath, before the arrival of Man, the Marr Twins did walk the face of Norrath. The children of a God of Power, Tarrew Marr the Water Lord, the Marr Twins searched for a cause to champion amongst the mortals of Norrath. The Gods of Nature puzzled over the Marr Twins' absence of divine purpose, and the Gods of Influence scoffed at the Twins for seeking such a purpose amongst the mortals. The most malicious of the gods, Innoruuk and Cazic-Thule, sought to corrupt the young Twins. Such an accomplishment would greatly strengthen the forces of Hatred and Fear.</P> <P>Innoruuk, the twisted God of Hatred and Spite, sent his mortal followers to Tarrew's daughter, Erollisi Marr, to seduce her into the darkness. With the wisdom imparted to Erollisi by her father, she saw through the Teir'Dals' deceptions; their wickedness was more visible to her eyes than even their physical forms. So it came to pass that Erollisi journeyed to the lands of Tunare's fair elves, to escape the sickening advances of the Teir'Dal. It was in the early kingdoms of the elves that Erollisi did find warmth, peace and beauty in the harsh realm of the mortals. It was here that she embraced, and was in return embraced, by a most mortal of traits: Love.</P> <P>While Erollisi fended off the advances of Innoruuk's mortal agents, the forces of Cazic-Thule beset her twin brother, Mithaniel Marr. Serpents, phantoms and all manner of frightful creatures conjured and commanded by Cazic-Thule's mortal minions came to Mithaniel to assault his body and mind. But Mithaniel was no mortal, and his will was strong; the minions of Thule could not instill within him the fear of their dark lord. They did succeed, however, in luring the brave Mithaniel to the swamps of Norrath, the deadly, dank lands where the creatures of Cazic-Thule were the strongest and most numerous. An army of trolls, lizard folk and forgotten creatures of unspeakable horror beset Mithaniel Marr, and so it came to pass that he became a captive to the minions of the Lord of Fear.</P> <P>Mithaniel, imprisoned in magical bonds provided to his captors by Cazic-Thule and tortured by relentless monstrosities, prayed to his father day and night for forgiveness and salvation. The prayers continued unanswered until the brave god, weary from torture and weakened by the dark magic of Cazic-Thule, fell into a deep slumber.</P> <P>It was then that Terris-Thule visited the slumbering god to infect his sleep with nightmares more horrible than the events he had endured at the hands of his captors during his waking hours. However, at the beseeching of her father, Cazic-Thule, Terris was not permitted to inflict such terror onto Mithaniel Marr until after she first deceived him through his dreams to steal the gift of life from his body. So Terris did as her father commanded and the slumbering horrors began.</P> <P>Morell-Thule, the forsaken son of Cazic, and brother of Terris, took notice of Terris' manipulations of the slumbering God, for while Terris is the Queen of Nightmares, Morell is the King of Dreams. For reasons unknown, perhaps simply to foil the plans of his wicked father and sister, Morell-Thule stole the gift of life that had been taken from the slumbering Mithaniel and escaped into his Demi-Plane of Dreams. Knowing that his enraged family would soon visit his home, Morell divided Mithaniels Gift of Life, scattering one half across all the swamps of Norrath, the sacred lands of his father, Cazic-Thule.</P> <P>Where Mithaniel's Gift of Life fell upon the swamps of Norrath, the first Froglok Tads were born. Those first Tads had the hardest trials of our people. Until that point, the swamps belonged only to the foul and destructive creatures of the dark gods. Fortunately the gift of life that had brought our first ancestors into being also empowered them with the bravery and valor Mithaniel Marr had exhibited during his trials in the mortal realms.</P> <P>Once the swamps had been seeded with the first of our kind, the Lord of Dreams, Morell-Thule, visited Mithaniel Marr's twin sister, Erollisi Marr. While the Goddess of Love blissfully rested in the lands of the fair elves, Morell-Thule entered her dreams and gave to her the second half of Mithaniel's Gift of Life. It was soon to be evident to the fair elves that their visiting daughter of the gods was with child and they took her to an uninhabited region of the frozen northlands of Antonica, where they could tend to and guard her in seclusion.</P> <P>While the elves watched after Erollisi, the first of our ancestors grew from Tads into adult Frogloks, and Morell-Thule gifted them with dreams of the imprisoned Mithaniel Marr, and visions of a means to free the brave son of Tarrew. So it came to pass that from all the swamps of Norrath, the first Frogloks rose in arms against the minions of Cazic-Thule, fighting valiantly to the site of Mithaniel Marr's imprisonment, guided by visions from the Lord of Dreams.</P> <P>For uncounted years the Frogloks battled the evil inhabitants of Norraths swamplands, learning the lessons of both victory and defeat. Alas, Cazic-Thule is an ancient and powerful god, and his minions are numerous and diverse. Try as they might, the ancestor Frogloks could not reach their imprisoned god, but never did they cease their efforts, despite the daunting odds.</P> <P>Then, after some time, a small army arrived on the borders of the swamp that was Mithaniel Marr's prison. Not an army of Frogloks, but an army of Northmen, the children of Erollisi Marr. They, too, had been guided by visions and dreams of the imprisoned god from whose life they were conceived. Seeking justice for the imprisonment of their father, the Northmen joined with the Froglok armies and the alliance of Froglok and Man succeeded in freeing their father Mithaniel Marr. The minions of Cazic-Thule and the Avatar of Fear himself fell before the unity and valor of the children of Marr. For the first time in the history of Norrath, the swamps were not safe for the evil creations of the dark gods.</P> <P>It was in the brave and selfless actions of the ancestor Frogloks and Northmen that Mithaniel Marr discovered the mortal trait of Valor, and because of Morell-Thule's honorable delivering of the truth of our origins to our ancestors in visions and dream, Mithaniel also chose to champion the virtues of honesty as well as valor.</P> <P>Such is the tale of my Lord Mithaniel Marr, of the origins of my fellow Frogloks, and of our distant brethren, the race of Men. It is a shame that so many of our kind, as well as many of the race of men, have strayed from the virtues of our ancestors. May Mithaniel Marr bless us, his faithful servants, with the powers to redeem our fallen kin from the clutches of evil.</P></DIV></DIV>

Kamimura
11-26-2004, 03:14 AM
<DIV>Here also is some more LoY lore for anyone interested. (for those that dont know, legacy of ykesha is the expansion that included Frogloks as a playable race). </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://everquest.station.sony.com/legacy/lore.jsp?ch=1" target=_blank>http://everquest.station.sony.com/legacy/lore.jsp?ch=1</A> </DIV>

Simi
11-26-2004, 04:44 AM
<DIV>I know that valuable information has already been posted, but there's one stupid thing about the paladins of Qeynos:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>THEY LIVE IN A SPACE SHIP WHICH IS CURRENTLY DOCKED INSIDE NORTH QEYNOS.  Great thinking. :smileymad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It was unbelievable in EQ1 and is still unbelievable.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Did that qualify as a rant?  Sure hope not.  :smileyhappy:</DIV>

Kamimura
11-26-2004, 05:04 AM
<DIV>Well, Rodcet Nife looks enough like an alien to deserve his own space ship temple. :smileytongue:</DIV>

FallingByTheWaysi
11-26-2004, 12:25 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kamimura wrote:<BR> <DIV>My noble kinsman, I bring to you .....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>..... the powers to redeem our fallen kin from the clutches of evil.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>*bows before Kamimura*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm not worthy!  I'm not worthy! :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Seriously, thank you greatly.  I've been trying to find this on the web since the beginning of forever.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not only do I get to read it again, but I can add it to my little lore site as well :smileyhappy:</DIV>

Ranger1017
11-30-2004, 02:55 AM
<DIV>That was the Pond to Planes book from EQL... truly an awesome read. If you liked the Knights of Solamnia then a knight of Mithaniel Marr would indeed be the way to go... that is the order that most closely resembles the Solamnic Knights as I understand them. Also, Sturm Brightblade is the best Paladin in fantasy fiction, at least that I have read, hehe. </DIV>

Kryussius
12-03-2004, 01:02 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Amerygn wrote: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/ooc - Strictly speaking the Bloodsabers included all of Bertoxxulous' followers in Qeynos, with the shadowknights being the military arm of the cult.  Freeport had an equivalent evil order, but I'm not sure what deity they worshipped. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><BR> <HR> </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>The humans of Freeport were followers of Innoruuk, Prince of Hate.  I believe they also had the option to worship Cazic Thule, however, but I'm not sure since I only played pure blood followers of Innoruuk (Teir`Dal)</DIV>

Kamimura
12-03-2004, 01:40 AM
<DIV>No, the dismal rage was made only of followers of Innoruuk durring that time. Of course, now the dismal rage has changed quite a bit, and there are probably many followers of Cazic in their ranks.</DIV>

Kryussius
12-03-2004, 01:49 AM
<DIV>Gotcha.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then the only human followers of Cazic Thule were the Heritic shadow knights in Paineel.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Heh ... Erudites worshipping the same god as the Trolls.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now *that's* comedy!  *grin*</DIV>