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Aesi
11-15-2004, 10:25 PM
<DIV>I want to know more about this level 20 spell:</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Udor's spirit of the hawk - covers the form of the caster with an illusory image</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff size=2>Sounds cool... I'm guessing we can turn into a hawk..    Can we fly?  Movement increase?  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Anyone know?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>-Æ </FONT></DIV>

Mystiq
11-15-2004, 11:49 PM
<DIV>There are no extra benefits to the spell, that would be unfair. It just turns you into a hawk. Yes, you look like you're flying but you are on the ground and bound by all other rules of physics in the game. You can buy it at the scribe shop in Qeynos Harbour near the entrance to SQ.</DIV>

Aesi
11-16-2004, 12:18 AM
<DIV>Unfair?  I thought Paladins could summon a horse?  Wouldn't a horse grant them additional movement speed... or is that just a "Piece of Candy" as well?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the response by the way.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Blakpyre
11-16-2004, 04:12 AM
<DIV>Darn :smileysad:</DIV>

Mystiq
11-16-2004, 07:10 AM
<DIV>The horse does not grant any additional movement speed either.</DIV>

Qaa
11-18-2004, 08:28 AM
So this basically means we have a spell that is just for the looks and grants us no bonuses? Hmm.. I think I'd rather stay in bearform that way.. I'd like to /petition for this to allow us to lift off from the ground at least. I would love to see Antonica from above <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

XYZe
11-18-2004, 09:10 PM
<DIV>Can you pass by MOBS that are aggressive as this illusiory hawk? Since they percieve you as a bird?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Mystiq
11-19-2004, 08:38 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> XYZeal wrote:<BR> <DIV>Can you pass by MOBS that are aggressive as this illusiory hawk? Since they percieve you as a bird?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>No. You are not percieved as anything different than what you are. It has ZERO benefits beyond the illusion of a bird and being somewhat small.</P> <P>Regards,</P>

Veg
11-19-2004, 02:23 PM
<DIV>I use this spell for 2 things:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Show off :smileywink: and [Removed for Content] off druids</DIV> <DIV>- Use it to be smaller while useing bearform in dungeons (you keep the hp/power/ac of the bearform but loose the maul ability)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Found out the hard way that i didn't really fly ... I 'Flew' out of Eldars tree :smileyvery-happy:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Veggi on <span class=date_text>11-19-2004</span> <span class=time_text>11:26 AM</span>

Qaa
11-19-2004, 09:44 PM
<blockquote><hr>Veggi wrote:<DIV>I use this spell for 2 things:</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>- Show off :smileywink: and [Removed for Content] off druids</DIV><DIV>- Use it to be smaller while useing bearform in dungeons (you keep the hp/power/ac of the bearform but loose the maul ability)</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Found out the hard way that i didn't really fly ... I 'Flew' out of Eldars tree :smileyvery-happy:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Veggi on <span class=date_text>11-19-2004</span> <span class=time_text>11:26 AM</span><hr></blockquote>As a matter of fact, you do maul every now and then even if you're in falcon form with bear on that. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kalam
11-19-2004, 10:29 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Veggi wrote:<BR> <DIV>I use this spell for 2 things:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Show off :smileywink: and [Removed for Content] off druids</DIV> <DIV>- Use it to be smaller while useing bearform in dungeons (you keep the hp/power/ac of the bearform but loose the maul ability)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Found out the hard way that i didn't really fly ... I 'Flew' out of Eldars tree :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Veggi on <SPAN class=date_text>11-19-2004</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:26 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>LOL!  That reminded me of the Spongebob episode where he tries to fly.  "Look Patrick I'm flying I'm flying!"  SPLAT!</P> <P> </P>

Karla
11-19-2004, 11:04 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eloora wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> XYZeal wrote:<BR> <DIV>Can you pass by MOBS that are aggressive as this illusiory hawk? Since they percieve you as a bird?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>No. You are not percieved as anything different than what you are. It has ZERO benefits beyond the illusion of a bird and being somewhat small.</P> <P>Regards,</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> So its basically eye candy?   Personalyl I dont see how it would be unbalancing there is no pvp.  but ok thanks

Toby
11-20-2004, 08:49 AM
<DIV>Darn, I was really looking forward to this spell because I thought it would let us fly <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Birds in the game can fly 50 feet in the air, perhaps if we could fly as long as we weren't in combat they could give us that effect?  Don't make us fall for damage, just fall until we levitate above the ground if we aggro something so we can be within melee range.  I don't see anything wrong with it, other than it would be a great fun factor, and a slightly more powerful version of levitation.  </DIV>

Viroxi
11-20-2004, 07:10 PM
<DIV>LoL, typical...<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I was happy just looking like a hawk, then esctatic when I found I could couple it with bear form for dungeon fighting. Someone always wants more..."let us fly except in combat" let us fly in combat but let the mobs fly with us....let us where a cape with a big S on it! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Isn't anyone so awed by how wonderful the game is they don't already have their hand out asking for more?</DIV>

Viroxi
11-20-2004, 07:10 PM
<DIV>WEAR* ( it was 9am after a long playing session sorry for the type) <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

JayemJa
11-21-2004, 03:23 AM
Can you still cast as the hawk?As a defiler I might just spend a lot of time in rat form.

Toby
11-21-2004, 09:43 AM
<DIV>I guess I didn't think it was asking too much since bird npc's can fly, we can ride flying griffons (on a set course), and games like Shadowbane and Horizons have allowed players to fly.  Come to think of it, I sortof expected to at least have levitation as an effect for a bird illusion.  Are there even any levitation spells in the game?  If not, that is another feature that the game hasn't managed to keep from its predecessor.</DIV>

WankStar2
11-21-2004, 10:22 AM
i just turned mystic recently and have about couple of gold exp bars in....and i havent gotten the spell to do the Udor's spirit of the hawk... just wondering how do i get it ..or is it from just getting a bit more exp in?

JayemJa
11-22-2004, 12:51 AM
You have to buy it from a vendor. Can't remember where but its mentioned somewhere around here.

Syner
11-22-2004, 10:59 PM
<DIV>Can we get some more info about when this spell is available, and from where pls?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm level 20 and dont have it... what level is it? Where do you buy it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Karla
11-23-2004, 02:14 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Viroxian wrote:<BR> <DIV>LoL, typical...<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I was happy just looking like a hawk, then esctatic when I found I could couple it with bear form for dungeon fighting. Someone always wants more..."let us fly except in combat" let us fly in combat but let the mobs fly with us....let us where a cape with a big S on it! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Isn't anyone so awed by how wonderful the game is they don't already have their hand out asking for more?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Honestly eye candy isnt that useful to me.  SWG was all eye candy like a glorified chat room.

Viroxi
11-23-2004, 07:05 PM
<DIV>Well, first, this isn't SWG. I'm not sure why all the comparisons to SWG. It was made by the same company, but totally different teams. Let's equate it to the Shell Oil department not helping out the guys in the Shell Cancer Research dept.  I mean, SOE made PlanetSide too,but I have yet to see a Phaser Blaster or a Dune Buggy in Everquest 2. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Second, this game is SO much more than eye candy. The depth, quests, combat, etc.....so deep....especially for the beginning of the game. I guess it's just a "glass half empty vs. Glass Half Full" thing........but I don't see why not being able to "fly" with ILLUSION hawk is such a big deal. In Everquest one I could click on about anything and have the "ILLUSION" of it. I had illusion tree...but I certainly didn't expect to sprout nuts, and de-foil in the winter. </DIV>

Karla
11-23-2004, 08:34 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Viroxian wrote:<BR> <DIV>Well, first, this isn't SWG. I'm not sure why all the comparisons to SWG. It was made by the same company, but totally different teams. Let's equate it to the Shell Oil department not helping out the guys in the Shell Cancer Research dept.  I mean, SOE made PlanetSide too,but I have yet to see a Phaser Blaster or a Dune Buggy in Everquest 2. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Second, this game is SO much more than eye candy. The depth, quests, combat, etc.....so deep....especially for the beginning of the game. I guess it's just a "glass half empty vs. Glass Half Full" thing........but I don't see why not being able to "fly" with ILLUSION hawk is such a big deal. In Everquest one I could click on about anything and have the "ILLUSION" of it. I had illusion tree...but I certainly didn't expect to sprout nuts, and de-foil in the winter. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> You are right it is more than eye candy.  I was saying tht if all SOE is adding spells for is eye candy my comment is dont bother.  Then I said that SWG was all eey candy.  I did not compare the two.

WankStar2
11-23-2004, 09:58 PM
lol just found the vendor ... go to queynos harbors and look for the scribe there.. its about 14 silvers for the scroll =D gg to finding it

Speak
11-23-2004, 10:07 PM
<DIV>If you cast Hawk first then  cast Bear, you will stay in hawk form, but get the spell adds of Bear </DIV>

Karla
11-23-2004, 10:41 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Speaker wrote:<BR> <DIV>If you cast Hawk first then  cast Bear, you will stay in hawk form, but get the spell adds of Bear </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> I wonder if Stag and Serpent work the same way.

Jeridor
11-23-2004, 10:47 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eloora wrote:<BR> <DIV>The horse does not grant any additional movement speed either.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Wow, uh you're mistaken on this one, sorry.  Not only does the horse make them move faster, it makes them move faster than a shaman with SOW on.  And the horse stacks with SOW to boot.  Tested all of this out last night with a Paladin friend (I'm a Shaman).

Toby
11-24-2004, 03:57 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jeridor wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eloora wrote:<BR> <DIV>The horse does not grant any additional movement speed either.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Wow, uh you're mistaken on this one, sorry.  Not only does the horse make them move faster, it makes them move faster than a shaman with SOW on.  And the horse stacks with SOW to boot.  Tested all of this out last night with a Paladin friend (I'm a Shaman).<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Wow, so their "Fun" spell is actually quite useful....interesting.  I don't want to point at another class and ask for them to be nerfed, but I would like for the rest of the fun spells to be made at least somewhat useful.  Can we at least get levitate for Uldor's Spirit of the Hawk?  So we can at least glide off of a mountainside or a tower and look like we are flying for a few seconds?  I don't see that as overpowering at all, and levitate was something anyone in EQ1 could have with items or by being buffed by other classes.<BR>

Viroxi
11-24-2004, 01:20 PM
<DIV>How is that their "fun" spell? It is comprable (in so far as they get a uself spell and so do we)  to our Bear form which adds stats and procs maul.......they just get a DIFFERENT worthwhile spell. Or would you prefer we all get bear form?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Second, Hawk is useful.as said about a billion times..to decrease your size in dungeon while allowing you to keep bear form stats. I'd say that's equivelant to shrink almost..so in effect it's a lot more than eye candy.</DIV>

kovusretu
11-24-2004, 03:42 PM
<DIV>Let me get this straight... the hawk form is about the only spell in the game you have to buy (meaning you don't automatically get it)?</DIV>

Im
11-24-2004, 07:24 PM
<DIV>I have heard this spell is for sale in Qeynos Harbour. I just can't seem to find the npc that sells it. Am I looking in the wrong place?</DIV>

ntbushwi
11-24-2004, 07:42 PM
Yes, you have to buy Udor's spirit of the hawk from the scribe in QH. I just bought it. Is it me, or does Udor's spirit of the hawk form make you run faster. It seems that way to me.

Nil
11-26-2004, 02:22 AM
<DIV>I'm not sure I havent bought it yet.. but typically when your smaller you appear to move faster because of your perspective. </DIV>

Eta
11-26-2004, 09:51 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kovusreturn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Let me get this straight... the hawk form is about the only spell in the game you have to buy (meaning you don't automatically get it)?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> not the only spell game wide. every class gets a special toy spell at 20. Illusions, horse...swashbuckler's get a funny spell that makes a group member fan their face with their hand (have to be higher level than the victim)  I personally was looking forward to hawk form, and still love it even tho it doesnt give anything else besides the illusion. plus the overwriting of huge bear form rocks in dungeons.<p>Message Edited by Etayn on <span class=date_text>11-25-2004</span> <span class=time_text>08:54 PM</span>

Mystiq
11-26-2004, 03:31 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Viroxian wrote:<BR> <DIV>How is that their "fun" spell? It is comprable (in so far as they get a uself spell and so do we)  to our Bear form which adds stats and procs maul.......they just get a DIFFERENT worthwhile spell. Or would you prefer we all get bear form?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Second, Hawk is useful.as said about a billion times..to decrease your size in dungeon while allowing you to keep bear form stats. I'd say that's equivelant to shrink almost..so in effect it's a lot more than eye candy.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>The second part is actually not true. Yes, hawk form makes you shorter and therefore easier to see over (which is good for you in third person and your group mates). However, your target ring (and hence aggro range) is larger in hawk form due to the wide wing span. So while visually hawk is best for dungeons and other small areas, you might grab unwanted aggro faster by being perceived by mobs as a larger being. Bear form, though cumbersome, has the next smallest target ring after just yourself with no form on. Better safe than sorry, I always say.</DIV> <DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV>Regards,</FONT></DIV>

Pukeys
11-26-2004, 10:28 PM
<DIV>I agree that the smaller form (Hawk) is best for dungeon crawling like say Stormhold because it can get pretty hairy pretty quick when you drop down into the lower levels of the place.  The only thing that may get annoying to some players is the constant chirping and if you do choose to go melee in combat you'll get the "Hawk Screech" every time you hit which pierces through my speakers referencing my mothers wailing voice to take out the trash back when I was in 9th grade.  :smileytongue:  But I do like the option of being able to use the 3 different forms... flight would be nice but not expected.  I also made the mistake of "flying" off the griffon tower with a big smile on my face until I hit for like 450 points and almost died... hehe... I suppose we all will try it our first time out.  Until then I'll just be hitting the space bar to fly.</DIV>

Viroxi
11-27-2004, 02:18 PM
<DIV>Personally I've found that if the caster uses good judgement and timing the percieved size is irrelevant. If you are havin aggro issues due to having a larger target ring, chances are you are doing something else wrong, or your tank isn't very good. I've spent about 100 hours as a hawk in dungeon and have yet to have any aggro issues, provided I was with a tank that wasn't losing aggro to everyone in the group..lol.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'd say the general consensus is that I'm not wrong, because your group members don't want your big bear [Removed for Content] in the way, and hawk solves that issue. </DIV>

CorynX
12-03-2004, 05:16 AM
It's great for flying over water. Being able to fly around the watery parts of Everfrost was a huge boon, to me, because I HAAAATE swimming. =p

Toby
12-03-2004, 05:24 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CorynXeg wrote:<BR>It's great for flying over water. Being able to fly around the watery parts of Everfrost was a huge boon, to me, because I HAAAATE swimming. =p<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Are you saying that it allows you to levitate over water?</DIV>

Pukeys
12-03-2004, 06:06 AM
<DIV>you don't "levitate" over the water you just kinda float... as if you're on top of the water with your char with your head above the water... it leaves a tiny wake behind you too... you can still "swim" underwater in hawk form as well...</DIV>

CrymsonAnClov
12-03-2004, 11:52 PM
<DIV>a simple levitation added to this spell would make it so much more valuable, but I don't think overpowering.   Right now the only fun I have with it is crawling up on big rocks and watching my bird self plunge to the ground as I jump and fall off.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>LOOK, I FLY!      <STRONG>...</STRONG>       <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just can't wait for Spirit of the Builder....yay</DIV><p>Message Edited by CrymsonAnClover on <span class=date_text>12-03-2004</span> <span class=time_text>10:56 AM</span>

BigDa
12-07-2004, 04:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eloora wrote:<BR> <DIV>...Yes, hawk form makes you shorter and therefore easier to see over (which is good for you in third person and your group mates). However, your target ring (and hence aggro range) is larger in hawk form due to the wide wing span. So while visually hawk is best for dungeons and other small areas, you might grab unwanted aggro faster by being perceived by mobs as a larger being. Bear form, though cumbersome, has the next smallest target ring after just yourself with no form on. Better safe than sorry, I always say...</DIV> <DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV></FONT></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Really?  The size of your target ring indicates the threat you (and NPCs?) pose?  Never heard that before.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Personally, I love this spell.  The Paladin's horse definitely does give a movement buff better than (and stackable with) SoW, and, to my surprise, when I got Hawk last night, I <EM>seemed to </EM>be moving faster than SoW also.  If this is the case, this is worth a lot simply for the movement buff - I'll test further today.  Also, being able to have the Bear buff, but not obscure a whole dungeon tunnel is fantastic.  Thanks Devs!  Cool spell!  Now go fix Water Spirit <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

bli
12-08-2004, 01:31 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CrymsonAnClover wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just can't wait for Spirit of the Builder....yay</DIV> <P>Message Edited by CrymsonAnClover on <SPAN class=date_text>12-03-2004</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:56 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>What does Spirit of the Builder do?</DIV>

XYZe
12-08-2004, 02:17 AM
<DIV>Youhave to buy all illusory forms, that is stag, badger and so on. These spells are bonus spells, and even the spell that covers us in a shimmer of lights at level 50, must be bought. It is more of a status than anything else.</DIV>

Trepan
12-08-2004, 02:42 AM
The best use of this spell is to keep from having to look at your giant brown hairy butt all the time.Oh, and to avoid taking up all the screen space when in bear form too <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Hawk yourself, then cast bear form. You get all the stats of bear form and none of the rug.

Consue
12-08-2004, 04:12 AM
<DIV>I like staring at my hairy butt, thank you. =) </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just wanted to mention my husband (ranger) had to purchase his "pet" hawk for his level 20 special spell. It also cost him 14s from a scribe, but in Elddar Grove. I just dinged 20 today, so I think we'll be hearing a lot of bird squawking tonight! Which is okay cause we have parrots. Our bird sounds will just blend in the background, lol. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the info. here, very useful. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

CrazyMi
12-08-2004, 11:53 AM
<DIV>Yeah the hawk spell can also be bought from the scribe at the top of the treehouse in Eldar Grove. You just have to scroll down quite a bit to find it in his list.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mike</DIV>

BigDa
12-10-2004, 09:58 PM
<DIV>The most annoying thing for me is that this 20th level 'fluff' spell (the term was coined by the mods to describe the 'flavour only', 'fun' spells everyone would get at 20th) <EM>didn't</EM> give me the movement buff I was expecting.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I duo a lot with a Paladin friend.  She made 20th a couple of levels before me and I spent a lot of time after that saying to her "Hey, hold up, even SoW isn't keeping me level".  Like every 5 minutes *sigh*.  I was soooo looking forward to the Hawk spell, I didn;t even question the thougth that of course I would get to keep up once I can fly like a bird.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nope.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems the Paladins (and Shadowknights) are the only ones that got a useful 'fluff' ability.  Something that enables you to kite monsters and flee combat while your buddies get pounded in the back is a bit more than fluff.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*shrug* I don't want them to lose it, but why not make everyone else's fluff ability useful, then?  If not movement speed for hawk form, why not safe-falling?  Make the mage's cat warn the mage of potential aggro?  Make the warrior burning hand act like an improved torch?...</DIV>

Saraphi
12-10-2004, 10:26 PM
<DIV>I think the problem with allowing shammies to fly like birds is that it gives us the advantage during combat, we could exploit it so that we could dot and fly out of range and just sit happy up in the sky, safe as can be. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I too would love to be able to fly, but only for travel. Maybe the devs could make it so whenever you enter combat, your dropped from the sky and set to the walking height your at (no falling damage but not out of melee range). This would be amusing if your in a group and there fighting way off, your flying along and suddenly your bang, 5 feet from the ground. It would be extremely useful for travel though, and not too overpowered concidering your just a small bird.</DIV>

Toby
12-11-2004, 07:15 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Saraphion wrote:<BR> <DIV>I think the problem with allowing shammies to fly like birds is that it gives us the advantage during combat, we could exploit it so that we could dot and fly out of range and just sit happy up in the sky, safe as can be. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I too would love to be able to fly, but only for travel. Maybe the devs could make it so whenever you enter combat, your dropped from the sky and set to the walking height your at (no falling damage but not out of melee range). This would be amusing if your in a group and there fighting way off, your flying along and suddenly your bang, 5 feet from the ground. It would be extremely useful for travel though, and not too overpowered concidering your just a small bird.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Great minds think alike <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I agree!</P> <P>I also wanted to add that since I got this spell I've cast it once.  Did the whole jump from something and fall like a rock once, then tried hovering over water (you still swim, and you travel at the same speed you would if you are swimming, it's just that your claws barely touch the water making it look like you float).  Then I zoned and the illusion wore off, so I didn't even bother recasting it.  The noise of the wings flapping as you "walk", the squaking when you are sitting still, and no benefits whatsoever make it an utterly useless annoying spell.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>In otherwords, save your 14 silver and upgrade Ursine Elder to App 2 instead, they both sell from the same merchant.</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Tobyus on <span class=date_text>12-10-2004</span> <span class=time_text>09:19 PM</span>

Epon
12-11-2004, 08:26 PM
<DIV>The rumor that the summoned horse adds no speed is false. A summoned horse runs just as fast as I do with J-Boots and SoW on. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I like the looks of hawk form, its ALOT better than making 10 leaves fly around  your enemy. Its obvious that the fluff spells are not balanced in any means. A Pally or SK can summon a horse, while a Fury or Warden gets an exremely stupid spell. It would be nice if it could be cast on other people, and not only enemies.</DIV>

Shayl
01-17-2005, 04:43 AM
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana color=#ff0066>Ok! At least I learned one new thing about the hawk form! I didn't realize you can cast hawk, then bear and still get bear stats! Thats kool cuz the big hairy bear butt does get old</FONT> :smileytongue:. <FONT face=Verdana color=#ff0066>LOL. Thanks guys!</FONT></DIV>

Kahbu
01-19-2005, 02:30 AM
<DIV>IMO the hawk form is stupid.  Once you hit 30, you get beaver form.  That's the funniest thing ever.  You'll never want to take it off.  It even makes a little barking sound while attacking.  Seriously ... hours and hours of entertainment.</DIV>

Xanoth
01-19-2005, 02:55 AM
<DIV>as noted in the second last post, hawk form then bear means you look like a hawk, but really a bear.  great for dungeons, i do love that fluffy but, but [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] fluffy butt does get in the way in tight spaces...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>that said, i really can't wait for beaver <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

BigRedWo
04-04-2005, 08:27 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kovusreturn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Let me get this straight... the hawk form is about the only spell in the game you have to buy (meaning you don't automatically get it)?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>There are a lot of spells that have to be purchased.

Syn
04-06-2005, 12:04 PM
Ok....some of you seem to have a big problem grasping this, so we'll take it slowly. Every class gets between 3 and 5 spells, called "Entertainment" spells.  These spells were meant to be there just for fun, just to let you do something funny or interesting related to your class. For the Mystic, those spells are: level 20: Udor's Spirit of the Hawk --- Hawk illusion level 30:  Form of the Builder -- Beaver illusion level 35: Slithering Form of the Serpent -- snake illusion level 40: Haero's Aura Awareness -- aura vision, the same racial vision that erudites get upon creation level 45: Form of the Great Stag -- stag illusion level 50: Talisman of the Spiritist -- I haven't seen this one, but somone said a disco ball <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> You will note that these are *illusions*.  They aren't there to help you level, or to make you uber, or to allow you to recover the Great Overpowering Sword of Leetness and Magnificiocity.  They are there to entertain.  To have fun.  To be enjoyed. Why do you have to buy them?  Because if they were granted for free, people would whine that they get a spell that doesn't do anything, and would want a useful spell in that "place".  This way, if you don't want it, you don't have to get it. Every class has them, every class has to pay for them, and 99% of them are meant for entertainment.  The only ones that can be argued about are the Paladin/Shadowknight horses.  Here are some of the others, in case you are curious.  Most of my descriptions will be guesses because I obviously have not played every class to level 50 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Brawler: 20 Dreadnaught Kata -- a karate practice routine 40 Wooden Skin Style -- Makes the character's skin look like wood 50 Iron Skin Style -- Makes the character's skin look like iron Monk 20  Silent Fist Kata -- a karate practice routine 40  Tiger Style -- tiger illusion 50  Radiance of the Silent Fist -- makes one of the monk's hands glow Crusader 20  Holy Steed -- summons paladin's horse 40  Summon Squire -- summons an NPC follower 50  hand of Bayle -- makes the crusader's hand glow (?) Shadowknight 20 Unholy Steed -- summons shadowknight's horse 40 Summon Squire -- summons an NPC follower 50 Hand of Lucan -- makes the shadowknight's hand glow (?) Berserker 20 Fury of Fire -- covers the berserker with a flame illusion 40 Form of the Furious Bear -- bear illusion 50 Berserker's Fury --  (?) Guardian 20 Hand of the Just -- Glowing hand (?) 40 Form of the Rook -- bird illusion 50 Guardian's Sanctuary -- (?) Coercer 20 Lysira's Forced Jig/Mirth -- makes another character dance/laugh 30 Illusion Other: Ratonga -- cover someone else with the illusion of a Ratonga 35 Kintaz' Boggling Request/Mournful Pose -- makes another character /cry (?) 40 Illusion Other: Troll 45 Zumiak's Wincing Posture/Call of the Banshee -- makes another character /wince 50 Aanya's Enforced Worship -- makes another character /worship Illusionist 20 Illusion: Human/Half Elf 30 Illusion Group: Human 35 Illusion Barbarian/dwarf 40 Group Illusion: Half Elf 45 Illusion: Gnoll 50 Group Illusion: Gnoll Warlock 20 Kraylith's curse of the toad -- turn another player into a frog (Illusion, of course) 30 Kraylith's Minor Familiar -- summon a familiar (a frog, maybe?) 35 Yreth's Bat Vexation -- turn another player into a bat (illusion) 40 Bat Familiar -- summon a bat familiar 45 Erqu's Hex of the Rat -- turn another player into a rat (illusion) 50 Raven Familiar -- summon a raven familiar

Zav
04-08-2005, 10:30 PM
<DIV>Guardian<BR>20 Hand of the Just -- Glowing hand (?)</DIV> <DIV>One of the guardian fluffs knocks you down like feign death. I thought it was the level 20 spell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Warlock<BR>20 Kraylith's curse of the toad -- turn another player into a frog (Illusion, of course)</DIV> <DIV>For those wondering it is a real frog not a froglok. A hippity hoppity little toad.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Zavit on <span class=date_text>04-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:33 AM</span>