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Treve
03-19-2006, 10:55 PM
<div>are there any?...lol...i hardly ever see them drop and there are usually none on the broker either</div>

slayerwarrior
03-19-2006, 10:59 PM
<div></div>not say all people do but i know people when finding them do destroy them.

MaldekTM
03-19-2006, 11:46 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>slayerwarrior wrote:<div></div>not say all people do but i know people when finding them do destroy them.<hr></blockquote><p>That is Grade A Balonga sir</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I've personally seen:</p><p>Protector of the ForestRegenerative SporesVerdant SlyphSpikecoatSubzeroVerdant SighandHierophantic Whatever It's Called (lvl70 HG)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>

slayerwarrior
03-20-2006, 12:15 AM
<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>not true sir i know people that do it, for example i had a spell master was offered it told them i got 1 allready that 1 someone in raid said give it to he to sell replace plat guy said ( sry mate allready delete it). and after that he said he deletes everone he get if no druid in group.<p><span class="time_text"></span> </p><p>Message Edited by slayerwarrior on <span class="date_text">03-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:25 AM</span></p>

Golembes
03-20-2006, 03:16 AM
<div></div><p>I have Heirophant Advent (from a guildy), Subzero (bought it for the price of a moonstone = cheap for a master imo), our cold/heat debuff/dot (from a guildy).</p><p>By the way:  Anyone that destroys masters is just plain old dumb.</p>

slayerwarrior
03-20-2006, 03:29 AM
<div>yes it is but i guess some people hate druids o well but i know people do.</div>

Shizzirri
03-20-2006, 04:14 AM
<div></div><p>They do exist there just so expensive its not worth it, for example:</p><p>Spikecoat - 20pNature's Regrowth - 20pBracken - 25p</p><p>and the winner...</p><p>50p for greater chloroplast.</p>

slayerwarrior
03-20-2006, 04:19 AM
(50p for greater chloroplast )yea i seen that on our server to it was a joke haha but it did sell so idk other skills u list now that just to funny mybe thats why i have them adept3s :smileywink:<div></div>

MaldekTM
03-20-2006, 05:02 AM
<div></div><p>50p for chloro is steep but I'd expect to pay 30-40p as it's going to be an essential spell... at level 68 it has no upgrade until Tier 9 and most likely won't be a Master II choice at level 74.  So really Master I is all you'll ever get, which makes 50p the right neighborhood for its price.</p><p> </p><p>As for someone destroying Masters, I think the guy was just making excuses so as to not have to give his loot to slayerwarrior. </p>

Dragonreal
03-20-2006, 05:16 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Shizzirri wrote:<div></div><p>They do exist there just so expensive its not worth it, for example:</p><p>Spikecoat - 20pNature's Regrowth - 20pBracken - 25p</p><p>and the winner...</p><p>50p for greater chloroplast.</p><hr></blockquote><p>don't youguys ever try to like negotiate with the person...? 0_o</p><p>and for me..</p><p>Glacial Cold</p><p>Spikecoat (2 have dorpped in guild; I'm only warden =/)</p><p>Wave of Healing</p><p>Fierce Chlorostorm</p><p>Patron of the Forest</p><p>Protection of the Oak</p><p>Subzero</p><p>Message Edited by Dragonrealms on <span class="date_text">03-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:18 PM</span></p>

Hanzz00
03-20-2006, 06:07 AM
<div>In my opineon there are more Warden Master than ever before. I got Trapping Vines , Tranquility , Greater Chloroplast and Regenerative Spores. Glacial Cold , Wave of Healing and Spikecoat are in the broker (try to get them =)). In DoF I got the Master I's not as fast and easy as now.</div>

Treve
03-20-2006, 06:46 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Hanzz00 wrote:<div>In my opineon there are more Warden Master than ever before. I got Trapping Vines , Tranquility , Greater Chloroplast and Regenerative Spores. Glacial Cold , Wave of Healing and Spikecoat are in the broker (try to get them =)). In DoF I got the Master I's not as fast and easy as now.</div><hr></blockquote>that's the problem though...they're not on the broker either

Unmask
03-20-2006, 09:46 AM
<div></div><p>I have muttform, spike coat, spores and heirophantic advent.  Nice to see spores crit for 325ish per tick. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I saw trapping vines, subzero and glacial code on the broker but am not interested in paying alot for those if they don't help in raids.  Of course muttform was cheap since at the time there was no statement by the devs that it will stack with shapeshift. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Unfortunately warden masters don't drop in our raids or instances. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

slayerwarrior
03-20-2006, 10:15 AM
<div>what the spec on master1 heirophantic advent?</div>

Unmask
03-20-2006, 10:19 AM
<div></div>I'm not online atm but I recall the max being 705 per tick and the recurring power cost is the same as the power feed (+/- 1).  I think the min was 595 but maybe somewhat less I just don't know for sure.

slayerwarrior
03-20-2006, 10:25 AM
<div></div><div></div>so about 100 more then adept3 really like know the incombat power per tick is! if u get a chance post it some time please!<p>Message Edited by slayerwarrior on <span class="date_text">03-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:26 PM</span></p>

Unmask
03-20-2006, 10:30 AM
<div></div><div></div><p>Heal: 577-705</p><p>Power gain: 45-55</p><p>Message Edited by Unmasked on <span class="date_text">03-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:41 PM</span></p>

mikemcmodmi
03-20-2006, 02:24 PM
<div></div><p>I'm finding them hard to find too, I'm still the only 70 Warden on my server so I know no one else has scribed them.  I haven't seen a single lvl 70 Warden spell yet.</p><p>Do masters drop rates go by the number of that class on teh server?  I wonder...</p>

slayerwarrior
03-20-2006, 09:22 PM
<div>i have gotting 2 masters 1 was for dps spell and the other was spikecoat i think thats the upgraded name in t7 both of them in group drops so they were free :O.</div><div> </div><div>People do destroy them i know it's done druid are on the bottom of the food chain in ever quest atleast on my server their few think that way.</div>

Barand
03-21-2006, 03:06 PM
Only warden in my guild so i get every master that drop in instance <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />so far :Subzero : nice damage, with 300 int i does always 1000+ damage (something like 1200 max and in raid with debuff i have seen 1600 <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> at least i don't feel to much useless when healing is ok <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  )Spikecoat : 60 damage, small addition but still goodPatron of the forest : dont remember but there was something like +150 mitigation over the adept I version.I Never had a chance to have a heal master ! Everytime i got something its a dps thing. I  m respecing my warden into a wizden.(got the wolf in master in T6 too <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )<div></div>

heel
03-21-2006, 03:59 PM
<div></div><div>My lord..you guys are for sure [Removed for Content]!</div><div>I am at lvl 68 and the only master warden spell I've ever had was t5 buff, dkp'd in guild raid. No wonder I felt so distraught and slavedriven with this toon. :smileymad:</div><div>It's very hard to get one's hand on warden master (well, good ones) in my server, there are some minor ones on broker for no less than 15pp, and Gale of Healing (70) was for sale a few night ago at a fair 27pp. I have been slavedriving (literally) my cook for a few days now to get my hands on that spell..only to find out it was gone <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>errr..I get by okay with no master tho...sorta..</div><div>(/rushes to bank and counts his money)</div>

Barand
03-21-2006, 05:48 PM
Well i dont understand why people put so much money into master.I never buy a master more than 2x the price of the adept III. The upgrade is always nice, but putting 27pp in a unique spell is a waste of money, with that you could buy lots of moonstone an upgrade all of your spell in adept III. This is a lot more efficient than upgrading by a little bit one spell.Except if you are already full adept III and with a lot of money to spare (or in big raiding guild paying master for it players) either go on adept III or try to negociate the price it sometimes work (especially when there are a few warden on the server)<div></div>

Dragonreal
03-21-2006, 05:59 PM
<div></div>have to agree with iranos here.. I refuse to pay even as much as 15p for a master let alone 27+.. most I've paid was 11.5 for my t7 mit buff and I really didn't like going even that high but I figured if I'd spend nearly 11p on a ghost horse why not on something that's actually going to improve my char?

myount
03-21-2006, 06:50 PM
<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Dragonrealms wrote:<div></div>have to agree with iranos here.. I refuse to pay even as much as 15p for a master let alone 27+.. most I've paid was 11.5 for my t7 mit buff and I really didn't like going even that high but I figured if I'd spend nearly 11p on a ghost horse why not on something that's actually going to improve my char?<hr></blockquote>I have 2 master spells in T7.  Spores and Group Regen, both of those are the only 2 master warden spells that have dropped in my guild events.  I never see Warden masters on teh broker at all.  I would pay whatever it takes to get them, i am always trying to make my characters better and masters are the best.  T7 Mit buff i would pay 5 times what you did, I am the warden in the MT group and the Mit buff would benefit my entire guild.  Well worth some PP that is very easy to make in this tier.<p>Message Edited by myount on <span class="date_text">03-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:50 AM</span></p>

heel
03-21-2006, 07:06 PM
<div></div>Yeah, 27pp is a <em>lot</em> for me. But heck, I thought it worth and fair when I saw on broker..since it's one of my favorite and most used spell. It's also lvl 70 spell, which tends to fetch different price tag than from lvl 69.. Moonstones I can harvest or buy from peeps anytime..a specific class master is really a lucky chance. Hopefully when we all start to raid regularly, masters would rotate better in market.

Zammik
03-21-2006, 07:47 PM
<div></div><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">So far I have:</font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">62 Patron of the Forest </font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">63 Regenerative Spores (master 2)</font></span></p><p><span></span><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">65 Glacial Cold </font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">65 Tranquility </font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">67 Subzero</font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">68 Greater Chloroplast</font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">69 Ancient Sylph</font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">6</font></span><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">9 Nature's Regrowth</font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">70 Fierce Chlorostorm</font></span></p><p><span><font size="2" color="#ffffff">Some were broker bought, some were given to me by guild mates.  They're definitely out there, but I'd say no more or less than any other class, just a matter of luck.</font></span></p>

Kassanthala
03-21-2006, 11:45 PM
<div></div><p>definatly less. The only master ever on freeport broker is trapping vines and that also the most expensive one on both brokers (10-35p) Rofl. I would never pay for that master. But i've seen one or two on qeynos broker and i have glacial cold (traded for it) and the lvl 70 group cure. However unlike T6 level 70 adepts and masters DO drop outside of raid zones. I've gotten a couple lvl 70 masters in palace (there is a great spot in there that drops a master chest for us about once an hour)</p><p>IMO though Warden masters are definatly on the low side of dropping compared to other classes.</p><p>And for all of you saying you are only lvl 70 warden on server?? im on perma and dinged 70 last night and was #9 BUT like 175 world wide .... so is there like one or two servers that have 20-50 level 70 wardens? lol.</p>

mikemcmodmi
03-21-2006, 11:52 PM
<div></div><div></div><p>OMG radiohead, I'm jealous.  What server do you play on?  I'm wondering if drop rates vary according to how many people play a class on a server.  If there are a lot of Wardens kicking around on your server, that would explain the lacking drop rates on mine where there don't seem to be as many.</p><p>I've personally picked up about 16 masters from xping and my guild keeps all masters in guild.  We've seen a ton but I only have 5 Warden ones to my name from t7.  I'm so jealous <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>Message Edited by mikemcmodmike on <span class="date_text">03-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:54 AM</span></p>

Dragonreal
03-22-2006, 12:34 AM
<div></div><p>He's onyl got 1 more than I have and I've got both grp heals joy! hehe =)</p><p>53 wardens on mistmoore in t7; 7 of them 70 including me</p>

Zammik
03-22-2006, 07:50 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>mikemcmodmike wrote:<div></div><div></div><p>OMG radiohead, I'm jealous.  What server do you play on?  I'm wondering if drop rates vary according to how many people play a class on a server.  If there are a lot of Wardens kicking around on your server, that would explain the lacking drop rates on mine where there don't seem to be as many.</p><p>I've personally picked up about 16 masters from xping and my guild keeps all masters in guild.  We've seen a ton but I only have 5 Warden ones to my name from t7.  I'm so jealous <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>Message Edited by mikemcmodmike on <span class="date_text">03-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:54 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I play on Crushbone.  Station Players shows 7 level 70 wardens, and 33 level 65+ wardens.  I think that's about average as far as I know.

quetzaqotl
03-22-2006, 10:14 PM
<div></div><p>Bah hehe our guild warden got like 5 master spells in guild from guilds grp Ive gotten one in so far the rest was bought of the brokers for rediculus prices, add to that the absolute zero luck ive had on harvesting + the nice bots we have on our server= one broke fury.</p>