Void beast image

[nadym]

<DIV>Anyone has an image of it?</DIV> <DIV>Is it like a shadowman?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Cheers.</DIV>

[Catchisif]

<DIV>I tried it out on beta, kinda hoped it would look better. But it looks like those black creatures with three legs thats in varsoons chamber and the obelisk of lost souls.</DIV>

[Tallika_Runwithbears]

its much smaller than the other void beasts and it also has that shadow effecting going.<div></div>

[Jal]

Ok so the void beast its a completely and utterly new pet? How does it stand stat wise is it going to die horribly like the mage pet to AE's or has it got scout pet style stats?

[soulrais]

atm it is a debuff type pet or planning to be from what i seen on beta .. BUT right now it does nothing  have bugged it and all but on the AA discription it says the pet will dehibilitate mobs .. .. take it as you see fit ..<p>Message Edited by soulraiser on <span class=date_text>11-06-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:59 PM</span>

[Allowen]

This void beast pet better debuff the hell of the mobs or do extreeme dps or it will not be worth for me. I mean the rot/coil line+ lifeburn skill will plus the lifetab or the rezz/heart aa line combo will be more worth by far. I belive 90pct of the necros will resp aa later on to get rot line since it will make our dps go nuts and I bet the extra pet(s) from Undead tide aa and the void pet will be far far far far away to be near to be as huge dps as rot line aa wil be. Anyways I hope void pet is indead uber cool looking as it will be usefull ) Allowen Lords of the triple moon guild Mistmoore server

[Grey_Gho]

It's currently really dull and goofy looking. One of those pirtch black pets that doesn't have any kind of detail. <div></div>

[Za]

<DIV>Its a shadow beast, its not supposed to have detail...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But currently its listed as a defieler char type, so I'd assume it'll be a healer/debuffer pet... which might be ok... maybe. Sure thing I'll be checking it out soon as it's available to test.</DIV>

[soulrais]

i would realy perfer a permant park ability that holds the caster pet in ONE spot so he dont run in to aoe range and try to melee ((

[Korb]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> soulraiser wrote:<BR> i would realy perfer a permant park ability that holds the caster pet in ONE spot so he dont run in to aoe range and try to melee ((<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Ya, even if they made one of the end AA's a pet park, it would still be worth it.

[Za]

That ability already exists... its the anchor icon.

[Fumbles]

the anchor only parks the pet while not in combat, once you have them attack, they will run in.

[Za]

I know, just stating what should be obvious to point out that the effect you want isn't for your pet to stand still... that already exists. You want the ability to have your pet stand in one spot and do damage, without having to worry about it. There's a difference.

[Jasuo]

More nit picky than I am Zald <span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div>

[Jal]

They already added and removed the mage pet root with the KoS AA's because it was unbalanced.

[Triste-Lune]

It might be unballanced but it should also be the normal behavior of any mage pet...

[Jal]

At the cost of them reducing the damage output of the pet?A little work to keep it out of range is preferable.

[quamdar]

the only thing i would want changed is to have it when you press the anchor the pet will stay there but then if you have it attack it goes and attacks but when the mob dies or you have it back off it will go back to that same spot.  hate when i am jousting the pet and the pet stops in front of me when i am already close to the mob instead of going behind me.would make it a lot easier to control your pet.<div></div>

[FTL]

<DIV>Jalek wrote: At the cost of them reducing the damage output of the pet?<BR><BR>A little work to keep it out of range is preferable. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _____</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One thing about this though, is that the "mage" pet is supposed to be a mage, can anyone tell me how many mages they know of at present that when they run out or even low (more to the point) of power will run in and start attacking a epic mob in hand to hand combat?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Answers on a post card plz <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Jal]

Its a warlock, warlocks are crazy.

[FTL]

<DIV>Lol thats a s.o.e cop out answer jalek <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[ca]

<P><IMG src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/freya205/EQ2_000118.jpg"></P> <P>that tiny thing in the back is the debuff pet, does nothing but look like its gonna do something atm, my theory is it debuffs by acting threatening. Reigning theory is that it will have defiler type debuffs like mega disease and attack speed debuffs, looks stupid and does nothing but if we are lucky it may actually give us a new way of being a necro in raids and I am looking forward to that.</P>

[Za]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FTL wrote:<BR> <DIV>Jalek wrote: At the cost of them reducing the damage output of the pet?<BR><BR>A little work to keep it out of range is preferable. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _____</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One thing about this though, is that the "mage" pet is supposed to be a mage, can anyone tell me how many mages they know of at present that when they run out or even low (more to the point) of power will run in and start attacking a epic mob in hand to hand combat?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Answers on a post card plz <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>You could use the same logic to ask them to make the scout pet run behind the mobs to avoid AoEs.... <BR></DIV> <P>---  And Cavv's picture is a liitle deceptive! Yes that is the new pet, but it doesn't look nearly as boring when it moves! Thats the standing still position it takes. I personally always though the Void Beast animations were some of the creepiest in EQ2.</P><p>Message Edited by Zald on <span class=date_text>11-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:05 PM</span>

[Supp]

<DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Let me state this aloud since everyone is being so nice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>The mage pet running in to melee is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>. I could venture all kind of theories as to why it is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999 size=4>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>. But is enough to say that it is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999 size=5>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Mage running in to melee = Splat</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Splat = wasted recast time and dps getting it out again, if you even live because of the hate transfer</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>I spend whole raids staring at my <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG> mage pet, ready to click Back Off.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#999999><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>ness should be reserved for <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>fires.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>And on the point of <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMBERERNESS</FONT></STRONG>, the pet not properly following is <FONT color=#999999 size=4><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>. Creating a workaround for it such as Call Servant is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999 size=5>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></DIV><p>Message Edited by Supple on <span class=date_text>11-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:18 PM</span>

[Za]

Complaining about a game mechanic is <FONT size=5><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>.  Playing a game that you think is <STRONG><FONT size=5>DUMB</FONT></STRONG> is <FONT size=5><STRONG>DUMBER</STRONG></FONT>.<p>Message Edited by Zald on <span class=date_text>11-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:18 PM</span>

[ca]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Supple wrote:<BR> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Let me state this aloud since everyone is being so nice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>The mage pet running in to melee is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>. I could venture all kind of theories as to why it is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999 size=4>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>. But is enough to say that it is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999 size=5>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Mage running in to melee = Splat</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Splat = wasted recast time and dps getting it out again, if you even live because of the hate transfer</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>I spend whole raids staring at my <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG> mage pet, ready to click Back Off.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>And on the point of <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMBERERNESS</FONT></STRONG>, the pet not properly following is <FONT color=#999999 size=4><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>. Creating a workaround for it such as Call Servant is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999 size=5>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Supple on <SPAN class=date_text>11-09-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:15 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>100% agree, lets start a petition...seriously<BR>

[Supp]

<P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zald wrote:<BR> Complaining about a game mechanic is <FONT size=5><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>.  Playing a game that you think is <STRONG><FONT size=5>DUMB</FONT></STRONG> is <FONT size=5><STRONG>DUMBER</STRONG></FONT>. <P>Message Edited by Zald on <SPAN class=date_text>11-09-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:18 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Zald, you are <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>,</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>You did not know that Korben meant an anchor that would root the mage pet while it's casting. We all did. And you tried to save yourself so you wouldnt look <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>. If you did know, I can only presume you meant to show off your non<STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>ness by pointing out a needless detail, which is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Complaining about game mechanics brings about change, <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>y.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>No one said EQ2 is <FONT color=#999999><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>.</FONT></P> <P><BR> </P>

[Jasuo]

<div><font color="#cccccc">EQ2 has been <font color="#999999"><strong>DUMB</strong></font></font><font color="#cccccc">ed down.  This mage pet control issue is the only thing that takes actual thought.  Not that I support keeping it , but you fix it and every  idiot necro will be able to do high dps on raids...doesn't affect me directly just kinda sad to think about.  <span>:smileysad:</span></font><font color="#cccccc"><font color="#999999"><strong></strong></font></font></div>

[Supp]

<P><FONT color=#cccccc>Are you saying controlling the mage pet's positioning is the only finessing a necro does in a raid? You think we just spam our spells? Or perhaps you think the mage pet is all our DPS? Idiot necros indeed...</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>I was just told about a ranger that went on a raid that did 200 DPS. 200! Even with appr1's, I would expect a decently geared quality ranger to blow that outta the water. There's all kinds of examples of people that dont play their classes right, so no I dont think that giving our mage pet an anchor = idiot necro's with high dps.</FONT></P><p>Message Edited by Supple on <span class=date_text>11-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:47 PM</span>

[Jasuo]

Way to take it personally. Wasn't pointing fingers anywhere here, simply a generalized statement.  It doesn't take much for necros to do good DPS (note I said good), great DPS does take skill.<div></div>

[Za]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Supple wrote:<BR> <P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zald wrote:<BR> Complaining about a game mechanic is <FONT size=5><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>.  Playing a game that you think is <STRONG><FONT size=5>DUMB</FONT></STRONG> is <FONT size=5><STRONG>DUMBER</STRONG></FONT>. <P>Message Edited by Zald on <SPAN class=date_text>11-09-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>03:18 PM</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Zald, you are <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>,</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>You did not know that Korben meant an anchor that would root the mage pet while it's casting. We all did. And you tried to save yourself so you wouldnt look <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>. If you did know, I can only presume you meant to show off your non<STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>ness by pointing out a needless detail, which is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Complaining about game mechanics brings about change, <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>y.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>No one said EQ2 is <FONT color=#999999><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>.</FONT><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Wow, you're just a plain idiot. I think it was quite obvious I knew what I was doing... ahh wait, you're not stupid, you're just one of those people that manipulates a converstaion by pointing out obvious distractions to pull peoples attention from your lack of content.</P> <P>BTW, if you really are just stupid. What I pointed out was that there is a difference between asking for a trivial command that just makes your pet stay in one spot, and one that helps the caster maximize his DPS. There a slight difference there....<BR></P>

[quamdar]

<div><blockquote><hr>cavv wrote:<div></div> <p><img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/freya205/EQ2_000118.jpg"></p> <p>that tiny thing in the back is the debuff pet, does nothing but look like its gonna do something atm, my theory is it debuffs by acting threatening. Reigning theory is that it will have defiler type debuffs like mega disease and attack speed debuffs, looks stupid and does nothing but if we are lucky it may actually give us a new way of being a necro in raids and I am looking forward to that.</p><hr></blockquote>yeah i was thinking about that earlier (you can tell i am bored a lot) wondering if it would be defiler debuffs or what.  thought i read somewhere conj one is a priest one that buffs so if that is true would say more than likely it is a defiler.  wonder if the debuffs stack with a regular defiler's though, could end up being pretty cool can't wait to see what it can do on live.</div>

[Za]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Supple wrote:<BR> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Are you saying controlling the mage pet's positioning is the only finessing a necro does in a raid? You think we just spam our spells? Or perhaps you think the mage pet is all our DPS? Idiot necros indeed...</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>I was just told about a ranger that went on a raid that did 200 DPS. 200! Even with appr1's, I would expect a decently geared quality ranger to blow that outta the water. There's all kinds of examples of people that dont play their classes right, so no I dont think that giving our mage pet an anchor = idiot necro's with high dps.</FONT></P> <P>Message Edited by Supple on <SPAN class=date_text>11-09-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:47 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Dude.... no one is saying you personally... But you certainly would benefit from not having to watch your pet and keep it positioned correctly now wouldn't you...</DIV> <DIV>And the halmark of a poor argument is using the "but the other guy does it" argument. I could give a rats ash if a Ranger is overpowered... there will be a thread in 2 weeks whining that SoE is nerfing Rangers for no reason. But I DO care that necros stay in relative balance so the we DON'T need to get justifiable nerfs. </DIV>

[Supp]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zald wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Supple wrote:<BR> <P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zald wrote:<BR> Complaining about a game mechanic is <FONT size=5><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>.  Playing a game that you think is <STRONG><FONT size=5>DUMB</FONT></STRONG> is <FONT size=5><STRONG>DUMBER</STRONG></FONT>. <P>Message Edited by Zald on <SPAN class=date_text>11-09-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>03:18 PM</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Zald, you are <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>,</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>You did not know that Korben meant an anchor that would root the mage pet while it's casting. We all did. And you tried to save yourself so you wouldnt look <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>. If you did know, I can only presume you meant to show off your non<STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>ness by pointing out a needless detail, which is <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Complaining about game mechanics brings about change, <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG>y.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>No one said EQ2 is <FONT color=#999999><STRONG>DUMB</STRONG></FONT>.</FONT><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Wow, you're just a plain idiot. I think it was quite obvious I knew what I was doing... ahh wait, you're not stupid, you're just one of those people that manipulates a converstaion by pointing out obvious distractions to pull peoples attention from your lack of content.</P> <P>BTW, if you really are just stupid. What I pointed out was that there is a difference between asking for a trivial command that just makes your pet stay in one spot, and one that helps the caster maximize his DPS. There a slight difference there....<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#cccccc>Zald, it was OBVIOUS. And if you meant to show a neophite how to post properly for an enhancement, you should have detailed it immediately rather than having someone (and not even me this time) point out your mistake so you could then correct yourself. Im afraid you still fall into the <STRONG><FONT color=#999999>DUMB</FONT></STRONG> category :smileyvery-happy:</FONT><BR>

[Supp]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zald wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Supple wrote:<BR> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Are you saying controlling the mage pet's positioning is the only finessing a necro does in a raid? You think we just spam our spells? Or perhaps you think the mage pet is all our DPS? Idiot necros indeed...</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>I was just told about a ranger that went on a raid that did 200 DPS. 200! Even with appr1's, I would expect a decently geared quality ranger to blow that outta the water. There's all kinds of examples of people that dont play their classes right, so no I dont think that giving our mage pet an anchor = idiot necro's with high dps.</FONT></P> <P>Message Edited by Supple on <SPAN class=date_text>11-09-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:47 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Dude.... no one is saying you personally... But you certainly would benefit from not having to watch your pet and keep it positioned correctly now wouldn't you...</DIV> <DIV>And the halmark of a poor argument is using the "but the other guy does it" argument. I could give a rats ash if a Ranger is overpowered... there will be a thread in 2 weeks whining that SoE is nerfing Rangers for no reason. But I DO care that necros stay in relative balance so the we DON'T need to get justifiable nerfs. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#cccccc>I know he didnt mean me personally. He directed it towards the class. Suggesting than anyone who brings a well equipped necro to a raid will get high DPS if we have an anchor. Suggests that necro'ing is a brainless effort. I take exception to that.</FONT>

[Jasuo]

<div></div>Same team! Same team! Um...it's just fun to poke at the regulars here.<span>:smileyvery-happy:(and it's "I take offense to that")</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Jasuo on <span class=date_text>11-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:03 PM</span>

[Za]

Not even worth continuing this... Smart people get it, some don't bless ya all.... Continue the debate.

[Imperishab]

<P>Boo to this thread.  I starting reading figuring alot of good info was going to be here.  Instead went from decent to the kids fighting.  Anyone have a screen shot of the new image and or info on what has changed since?</P> <P>Imperishable- 70 necro/56 aa/70 carp</P> <P>Heka- 70 guard/50 aa/70 prov</P> <P>Nakazato 70 bruis/50 aa</P>

[Thakar]

Read the other posts...it's now an Ooze Crawler with a big AE debuff that will aggro everything around you and runs out of power very quickly.  I'm not impressed.  I was really looking forward to having a defiler pet.<div></div>

[Za]

The pet went from being a potential healing pet to a pet of guaranteed death. I gave up using it simply becasue using it was an almost guaranteed way of getting unwanted and unescapable agro.

[Thakar]

<div><blockquote><hr>Zald wrote:<div></div>The pet went from being a potential healing pet to a pet of guaranteed death. I gave up using it simply becasue using it was an almost guaranteed way of getting unwanted and unescapable agro.<hr></blockquote>It's really unfortunate how the Void Beast was changed...Please, SOE, change it back to a defiler pet (and make it do something)!</div>

[Za]

It really can't stay the way it is, I don't think anyone would ever be able to use it effectively. It's just to screwy and causes too much negative.

[nadym]

<P>Anyone with the pet can post pet spells please?</P><p>Message Edited by nadym on <span class=date_text>11-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:43 PM</span>

[Thakar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> nadym wrote:<BR> <P>Anyone with the pet can post pet spells please?</P> <P>Message Edited by nadym on <SPAN class=date_text>11-18-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:43 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>The pet is no longer a deflier pet, unfortunately...now it's an Ooze Crawler that has an PBAE that majorly debuffes everying around it...and I do mean everything.  It will hit mobs not in the targetted encounter, mobs walking by, and I bet it even calls up mobs from across the zone and insults their mothers.  It generates massive amounts of aggro, so the current consensus seems to that while the debuff is very nice, the pet is far too dangerous to use and, because it constantly casts the AE (whether you tell it to attack or have it on passive), it runs out of power very, very quickly.  So, do yourself a favor and get Lifeburn first and hope that SOE fixes the Ooze Crawler or gives us back a Defiler pet (with working abilities this time, please!) by the time you're finished grinding Achievement experience.

[Shailas]

I hope they fix it.  The defiler pet concept is way cool.

[Bamfa_dexter]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Imperishable wrote:<BR> <P>Boo to this thread.  I starting reading figuring alot of good info was going to be here.  Instead went from decent to the kids fighting.  </P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That's why I only check these boards about every 6 weeks.  <p>Message Edited by Bamfa_dexter on <span class=date_text>11-22-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:12 PM</span>