OOP at raids?

[dizzi73]

<P>Last night my Guild raided Ahket Akan (sp?) and in the long named fights, I was OOP. This blew me away, never in my 54 levels have I been OOP during a raid/fight.</P> <P>My Clarity is Adept 3, my Mind's Eye is Adept3, I was casting Devouring thoughts when it refreshed.</P> <P>My Instigation is Master1, so I think from memory adds about 350ish to power pool. (thanks nerf!)</P> <P>Pretty much the only spells I was casting were TM, SL and Magus (other than Devouring) with the occasional Splitpaw nuke when procs didnt seem to be working.</P> <P>My group, including the healers, all ended the fight with more power than me. In fact the entire raid had more than me. </P> <P>I was very very surprised to see the blue (not enough power) icons with the mob still at 30% health. Ive not needed to use Manastone ever, so I had to dig around in my bags for it (where did I put that [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] thing??) and had to convert my health to power to finish the mob.</P> <P>Can someone please explain what has happened to me/us? Is anyone else having this problem??</P>

[Neric]

<P></P> <P>Our spells use FAR more mana then any other class, this was to balance us due to having a huge mana pool and good regen spells.</P> <P> </P> <P>So they nerfed our regen in class balance and now nerfed our power pool without change the casting cost of ANY of our spells.</P> <P> </P> <P>SO now we are out of mana almost EVERY fight</P>

[Petgroup]

<P></P> <P>I have Master 1 Clarity, Minds Eye, Signet, Devour, etc etc</P> <P> </P> <P>I go oop sometimes with a chain pulling tank........................</P> <P> </P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by nikecmh42 on <span class=date_text>10-27-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:04 AM</span>

[Magool]

<P></P>/agree

[Ghibli_]

<P>Use Channel to steal power from your slacking groupmembers <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Nivl]

<P>Riiiiight.. those healers don't need their mana. I'm sorry but taking mana from a healer to give to a [Removed for Content] coercer is [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] on a raid.  Only time to use that is if the healers need mana or if MT really needs it.</P>

[Ghibli_]

<P></P><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nivlek wrote:<BR> <P>Riiiiight.. those healers don't need their mana. I'm sorry but taking mana from a healer to give to a [Removed for Content] coercer is [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] on a raid.  Only time to use that is if the healers need mana or if MT really needs it.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Dude, notice the frickin' smiley next to the sentence I posted? It means I was kidding...</P> <P>/sigh, some people...</P>

[Enil]

>It means I was kidding It was funny to me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <p></p>

[Encantador]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Enilno wrote:<BR>>It means I was kidding<BR>It was funny to me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <P></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>err so you are kidding about it being funny ? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P></P>

[Correus]

<DIV>Woah! I was just gonna post something about this.  Been trying to kill Rahotep in a 2 group raid for a few days now (heh) and I am pretty angry about the power that I burn through.  By the time we get to Rahotep, if I've been just trying to keep TM (and other reactives) and my DoTs on one or two mobs for each wave (there are like 3-4 waves) I am down to like 10% power.  And this is with Adept 1 Clarity and Adept 1 Mind's Eye.  The other group members were at like 50% pwr.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Even in a non raid group fighting mobs, I run out of power a LOT faster than anyone else. If I am trying to keep my DoTs going, and my reacives going the whole fight (which don't even go off a lot of times) it is almost a guarantee that I will be down to 30% power by the end of a fight, where everyone else is at 80-90%.  Not fun.</DIV>

[Azamien-Dermorate]

<P>I have found this to be true on raids with my illusionist also ( insight master 1) (Devastating Stare master 1).  I have done some some unofficial research into spell costs (ie I didnt document anything ... I should have but was lazy) and it seems that both Coercer and Illusionists spells have heavy power cost associated to them compaired to the power costs of other classes.  My only reasoning I can come up with is that SOE intentinally made our spells/buffs/debuffs ect cost more power then other classes (other mages) because its assumed that we would ALWAYS have our regen on.  Yes other mage have high power cost spells but those are primarly  on high dps spells and they have a much better dps/power cost ratio, then what either enchanter class gets</P> <P> </P> <P>So if the fact that we have regen spells and that we are never without incombat regen has been caluated into and weighed against our power costs for spells (which by the way do considerably less dps in most cases then other mages... and nearly always have a worse dps/power cost ratio)  then having our regen spells isnt an added benifit, but actually a requirement for us to have in terms of balance vs other mages classes.</P> <P>I will look later to see if I have the hard numbers to prove my theory..</P>