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Jul
06-27-2005, 06:48 AM
<DIV>Hi all! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm just wondering what you all have chosen to Adept III and why.  I have a few rubies I am turning into ink soon, and would like to know your opinions.  Maybe there is another thread that addresses this, but I missed it. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rubies and Rhodium are great, but I'd even like to know what kinds of older spells you have chosen to make Adept III's of and what they do. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think for level 41-50 spells, I am definitely going to Adept III our best nuke, Tyrannical Mind.  Other than that, and Clarity, what would you use your rubies for? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Here are some examples of spells I have made Adept III's of:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Clarity Adept III:  Increases power of target by 53, every 6 seconds.  Increases max power of target by 242, definitely a must have for all Coercers, in my opinion!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ego Blast Adept III:  Inflicts 279-342 damage on target.  Casts Ego Strike, which roots the target.  Does not effect Epic Targets.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Beguile:  Charms target with 90% - 110% chance of success.  Only affects targets level 55 and below, does not effect epic targets. (Though I can charm one-ups epic targets and heroic one-ups as well).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Haruspex Adept III:  Casts Pain of Foresight on target.  On a successful attack this spell will: Inflict 209-255 damage on target encounter.  Only affects targets level 29 and above.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Despotic Mind Adept III:  Inflicts 401-490 damage on target.  Casts Derive Thoughtstone on target.  When target dies, this spell will Summon 1 thoughtstone.  Only affects targets 20 and above.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Breeze Adept III:  Increases power of target by 21 every 6 seconds.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please list your adept III's and the differences it made to your game! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Thanks for any input and advice.  Nothing worse than wasting rares... well maybe there are but not much! :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ecise, lvl 50 High Elf Coercer, Najena. </DIV>

dr.oo
06-28-2005, 01:25 AM
<DIV>Seizure Adept 3</DIV> <DIV>Inflicts 192 - 238 damage, interrupts target casts muddled thinking on termination (decreases power of target by 41-50) fast recast at 2sec </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Despair Adept 3</DIV> <DIV>inflicts 81-99 damage decreases health of target by 81-99 every 4.8 sec, decreases attack speed by 10%, and decreases mitigation of target to magic, mental and divine by a (not to be snifed at) 1041</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>in addition to your good choises above <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

dr.oo
06-30-2005, 03:24 AM
<P>Tyrannical Mind (adept 3)</P> <P>inflicts 483-591 damage</P> <P>does the thoughtstone thingy</P> <P>power cost 138</P>

Dystr
07-01-2005, 02:28 AM
i have every spell with the exception of 2 adept 3 or master at lvl 50.  I also have taken screenshots of the spells.  if i can remember i will post them.  <div></div>

Red5
07-01-2005, 07:21 PM
No one mentioned Mez?!  Entrhall is kind of our signature spell.  I gladdly dropped 2 plat on a master copy of that.  I was lucky enough to loot masters of Beguile and Forced Hesitation, both work a little better than the adept 1s.    I've only gotten my hands on one ruby, I used it on Seizure since its my most often casted spell and the stifle component is very important on caster mobs. I'm tempted to get an adept 3 for Tyranical Mind but damage isn't really our job so i'll probably go with a debuff like Ravaged Psychie or Silence. I'm  not sold on Clarity being that important.  going from 48 to 53 power per tick doesn't seem like that great a percentage increase.  I'm sure there is a copy of it in my future but it can wait in line, there's better stuff out there. Zarir Vah Shir Ratonga of Crushbone 50 Coercer 50 Provisioner <div></div>

Tanatus
07-01-2005, 08:18 PM
<P>Generally speaking offensive spells then they go from Adept to Master progress like this</P> <P>Adept 1 to Adept 3 +10-12.5% to damage</P> <P>Adept 3 to Master 1 +20-25% to damage (Torment Adp 1 to Adp 3 +12% per tic (97 to 109) Adept 3 to M1 +25%  from 109 to 135)</P> <DIV>Debuffs/buffs (except for clarity) gain very little from goes Adp 1 to Adp 3 to M1 Ravaged Psyche Adept 1 ~1106 broad band debuff Master 1 is -1295 broadband debuff</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Peronally I'd go with</DIV> <DIV>Despair, Seizure, Clarity, Tyr Mind, Torment in this order  and stop here may be upgrade Disregard</DIV>

dr.oo
07-02-2005, 06:27 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <BR>I'm  not sold on Clarity being that important.  going from 48 to 53 power per tick doesn't seem like that great a percentage increase.  I'm sure there is a copy of it in my future but it can wait in line, there's better stuff out there.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Up to 5 per tick may not sound great for one person, however, in a full raid party it all adds up.</DIV> <DIV>20 ppl ticking every 6 seconds will mean a possible 1000 extra power per minute.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The extra available power in the pool to feed tanks and healers makes a difference in my oppinion.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=163255" target=_blank><SPAN>Dystrax</SPAN></A> i would love to see those screenies</DIV>

Jul
07-14-2005, 05:33 PM
<DIV>Hey all!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ok... I did Adept III my Clarity.  Every little bit of power helps, and with most raiding guilds, it's almost a requirement to have it at AdptIII, and since I'm raid crazy, that was my first Adept III when I got my first rubies.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Since this post I've won a few more rubies at DKP for auction from my guild, and even found a rhodium, so I got some more inks made and got some more adept III's just last night.  I will list all of my adept III"s and the stats on them like I did above on my first post!</DIV> <DIV><BR>Thanks so much to you all for your input, and yes I'd love to see your master differences between Adept III's and masters, Dystrax.  Lucky you!  Where did you find all your masters, mostly broker? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  You must have a crafter... because I know we can't farm for cash... at least not as effeciently as most other classes can. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes, Mez is our "signature" spell, but just like a stun... unless it lasts for a longer amount of time I really see no point in upgrading to Adept III's right away.  Someday eventually, yes, but not when some of us only have limited rares.  I really have no problems landing my normal adepts and stuns. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'll be back later to post about my newly made Adept III spells in here so everyone else can make their own choices and see the differences.  I think that it totally depends on how you play, but yes... we are made for groups, not DPS... but there has to be times when you fight alone.  For those times, we need that damage! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, I've heard about the upcoming combat changes and how they are going to be really great for us Coercers... I guess, we are going to be able to out DPS some tank classes... won't THAT be nice for a change?  Wow... actual *real* damage!... wonder how that will effect us in so many ways... raiding, etc. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/hugs</DIV> <DIV>Ecise, Level 50 High Elf Coercer, Najena</DIV>

Dystr
07-14-2005, 11:24 PM
i started a new thread where i posted screen shots of all my spells, but i need to get a couple more screenies of masters - i just got seizure and synergetic link master - and also adept 3 demoralizing gaze and invis. i dont craft at all, all of my rubies have come from raiding.  15 of them to be exact (luckily we are not a DKP guild, my guild just loves me lol).  So i have been very fortunate there because i am poor.   i did, however, buy the opals for enthrall, beguile, withering silence, and i have one waiting for ego blast too.  I am a cheap [Removed for Content] since i dont have much gold, so i havent paid more than 35g for any of the opals.  I put all of my resources into my having my spells and certain equipment made.  I dont have a horse yet because i promised myself i wouldnt buy one till all of my spells were adept 3, so the horse is coming <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  almost every master i have was bought for me by my guild off the broker.  I bought empathic link master, and master clarity dropped in spirits of the lost.  needless to say, i love my guild, and my guild loves me. <div></div>