Kyle Bale (crusader specific class armor from EoF)

Angelow · 12-08-2006, 07:53 AM

Hi there. Was wondering if we could pool our resources to get a list of the Kyle Bale crusader armor.

This is the armor I am currently shooting for as I am not in a guild capable of raiding x4 content.

I am looking for zones that drop each piece, and what mobs drop them.

Helm - ???

Chest- MM Castle (confirmed) Need mobs name

Shoulders- Epic x 2 dragon guy in MM catacombs at the pillar going up (confirmed) (doable by 1 group)

- Also drops from butler in MM catacombs (confirmed)

- Also drops from named mob at stairwell to MM castle (confirmed)

Arms- Crypt of Valdoon off of Valdoon (confirmed)

Gloves- Ring Event Boss in Kaladim (confirmed) (does anyone know how to force him to spawn, is he 1 groupable)

- King Something the rat, he is located right next to final boss, and also drops the gloves.

Legs- MM Castle, The Sage (confirmed) Is he killable by 1 group?

Boots- Final boss in EoF Obelisk (confirmed)

If you have seen them drop yourself just tag it confirmed, if you have only heard of it dropping there, please tag

it as unconfirmed untill we get enough people agreeing.

Thanks in advance for any assistance, this is really my best bet for a respectable set of plate armor.

- Ugmar 70sk Venekor

Still have no info on helm, no zone, no nothing??????

- Shoulders and gloves are confirmed to be trade able, any other pieces not nodrop??

Message Edited by Angelow on 12-08-2006 11:19 PM

Message Edited by Angelow on 12-09-2006 02:22 PM

AziBam · 12-08-2006, 10:30 AM

You can label the boots confirmed on the final mob in Obelisk. They dropped for me there tonight. Decent boots other than they are much too bright and shiny for my taste but it's still an upgrade so...guess I'll live with it for now.

Xanoth · 12-08-2006, 04:21 PM

HeadChest - Crypt of Valdoon (final mob)Shoulders - Mistmoore Catacombs (Butler)Forearms - Crypt of Valdoon (final mob)Hands - Kaladim (ring event)Legs - Castle Mistmore (Sage)Feet - Obelisk of Blight (final mob)

there was a thread about them on page 2 in the items and equipment sectionno idea about helm, only done each instance once or twice to get any quest updates and didnt bother going back. spent a lot of time working on all the quests to get 100 AA, will post if i find / hear anything about the legendary set helms

Anselan · 12-08-2006, 05:12 PM

How does it compare with the Relic set? I like the effects it seems to have - but I haven't seen the Mit values on chest or legs yet, the forearms and boots seem in line with Blackcoat stuff.

Angelow · 12-08-2006, 05:27 PM

Not to be a naysayer but I know for a fact that the shoulders do not drop in mm cat. off the butler..... I got them off the epic x 2 dragon myself in mm catacombs.

I have done valdoon a handfull of times, and never have i seen the chest piece for any class drop from him.... always the arms for different classes.

I have a feeling some of your info from the other section is either beta info or simply mistaken.

The boots from obelisk is logical as i have seen atleast 5 of the different class pieces drop there and we have a confirmed report.

- Ugmar 70 sk

Xanoth · 12-08-2006, 06:21 PM

guess i need to format blockquotes better and give a link in future. but thats just a quote fom anotehr thread, i've neither seen nor care where most of this comes from, just offering info that is posted elsewhere.a lot of mobs from similar zones seem to share lot tables in EoF chances are they have a few locations, like the fabled sets.

CHIMPNOODLE. · 12-08-2006, 07:03 PM

I got the boots in Obelisk. They are not as good as relic for tanking but they were ok. Considerably less Mit. They were better than the Dark Majestic Sabatons (Sothis drop) by a smidge though.

Nocifer Deathblade · 12-09-2006, 01:03 AM

I heard rumors that gloves drop from kaladim ring event or something like that..

And BP/Leg off MM castle itself. Just heard about it not witnessed the drop..

Message Edited by Nocifer Deathblade on 12-08-2006 03:04 PM

Dogm · 12-09-2006, 03:21 AM

I've had the BP drop off an X2 mob in MM castle, would assume the legs drop there as well.

Pentarum · 12-09-2006, 03:40 AM

I have the gloves and bracer. I know where the legs, boots and shoulders drop cause I've seen every class but mine so far drop off them =P Gloves = Kaladim Avatar Ring event boss Bracer = CoV Last boss Boots = OoB Last boss Legs = CMM Sage Shoulders = Butler or Stairwell Mob Chest = CMM x2 mob Head = ? Legendary set is horrible imo. 5 pieces to do a encounter aoe that might proc 1-2 times a fight for 500 damage not including a crit. They really need to redo some of these sets. I mean come on 2% double attack? Make it 5-8% and I might actually consider wearing a set with lots of useless stats and not enough int/str if im trying for dps. The fabled set on the other hand has one gem and also needs looked at. The 10 sec reduction on Drain Vitae is sweet the rest is junk. Str line final AA + Drain Vitae recast reduction AA + 5 pieces of fabled is about 3.5 sec recast on Drain Vitae. Thats a beautiful thing the rest is garbage.

Since they seem insistant on giving us some junk aa's we are only going to take if we have nothing better to spend points on (DM 25 sec and Doom Judgement reduction) they could at least add Xsec casting time reduction to these as welll.

2 for 25 to disease damage spells (flat no more of this over the ticks garbage giving me +3 damage = lame!!!) Since 25 Int as it is now might get you 1% more spell damage if your over 510 INT 3 for 5% double attack 4 for 60 sec off Doom J (Come on guys make this usefull more than once every 3-5 min and put the stupid masters in the game already!!!!) 5 for Drain Vitae (As is!!! drools) 6 for 25 Sec off DM, (Woot I can die more often on raids!!) 7 for the 100 hate (bleh not impressed with this at all. Im not a tank sk but the work to get all 7 pieces for this effect when I can get the same thing for 5 or less aa makes it garbage)

This makes each piece a upgrade instead of just relic with a glossy graphic and +5 more to stats Next expansion they can do the same again with different spells so that we can mix and match to what we want to be doing. It would give even more diversity to some of us DPS sk's out there and help the Tank sk's as well.

Doom judgement would still have a legethy recast but at least it could be used 1 time a fight DM would be down to 2 min recast aprox good for every other fight or 2x on a raid mob (only good for MT cause if im dpsing and I pop this im dead unless I feign the sec I cast it)

Message Edited by Pentarum on 12-08-2006 03:08 PM

Dogm · 12-09-2006, 04:25 AM

Pentarum wrote:
The 10 sec reduction on Drain Vitae is sweet the rest is junk. Str line final AA + Drain Vitae recast reduction AA + 5 pieces of fabled is about 3.5 sec recast on Drain Vitae. Thats a beautiful thing the rest is garbage.

Except that recast reduction is capped at half the original value, so you won't be able to take Drain Vitae under 10s (unless for some reason this set ignores that restriction)

Kryptonix · 12-10-2006, 12:04 AM

Dogmae wrote:

Pentarum wrote:

The 10 sec reduction on Drain Vitae is sweet the rest is junk. Str line final AA + Drain Vitae recast reduction AA + 5 pieces of fabled is about 3.5 sec recast on Drain Vitae. Thats a beautiful thing the rest is garbage.

Except that recast reduction is capped at half the original value, so you won't be able to take Drain Vitae under 10s (unless for some reason this set ignores that restriction)

Wow I didnt know that. That sucks major balls. Whats the point of giving us the ability to take it past 10s then? SOE really needs to get their [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] together.

Pentarum · 12-10-2006, 06:48 PM

I wont get my hopes up too much on that then. Still 10sec recast is better than the current 13.2 We can always drop the 5aa in the recast reduction to add somewhere else if its gona cap without it.

Nocifer Deathblade · 12-11-2006, 10:30 PM

Yeah, come on. 3.5 sec on lifetap from 20 sec original recast? That's pretty powerful thing to acquire if it's true. 10 sec sounds reasonable reduction from 20 sec. I guess that SOE just gave us more choices to achieve 10 sec and even casual gamers could achieve 13 seconds without the need of fabled while raiders could just get fabled and skip EOF AA to save 5 points so they can invest into other AAs instead. Casuals just have to waste 5 AAs into sec reduction. Sounds reasonable to me. Choices.. Choices. SMILEY

Saeldar · 12-12-2006, 02:22 AM

The legendary set isn't that bad for non-raiders. What's disapointing about it, it's that it's barely an upgrade and in some case not an upgrade at all from legendary KoS stuff for non-raiders.

It would seem to be the top of the line armor set in EoF for non-raiders, and it's barely an upgrade from the top non-raiders stuff you can get in KoS.

On the other hand, I've found lots of jewelry and other misc items that are definitive upgrades in eof from kos stuff.

Armor and weapons so far isn't the case it seems.

12-08-2006, 07:53 AM	#1
Angelow Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Baltimore Posts: 31	Hi there. Was wondering if we could pool our resources to get a list of the Kyle Bale crusader armor. This is the armor I am currently shooting for as I am not in a guild capable of raiding x4 content. I am looking for zones that drop each piece, and what mobs drop them. Helm - ??? Chest- MM Castle (confirmed) Need mobs name Shoulders- Epic x 2 dragon guy in MM catacombs at the pillar going up (confirmed) (doable by 1 group) - Also drops from butler in MM catacombs (confirmed) - Also drops from named mob at stairwell to MM castle (confirmed) Arms- Crypt of Valdoon off of Valdoon (confirmed) Gloves- Ring Event Boss in Kaladim (confirmed) (does anyone know how to force him to spawn, is he 1 groupable) - King Something the rat, he is located right next to final boss, and also drops the gloves. Legs- MM Castle, The Sage (confirmed) Is he killable by 1 group? Boots- Final boss in EoF Obelisk (confirmed) If you have seen them drop yourself just tag it confirmed, if you have only heard of it dropping there, please tag it as unconfirmed untill we get enough people agreeing. Thanks in advance for any assistance, this is really my best bet for a respectable set of plate armor. - Ugmar 70sk Venekor Still have no info on helm, no zone, no nothing?????? - Shoulders and gloves are confirmed to be trade able, any other pieces not nodrop?? Message Edited by Angelow on 12-08-2006 11:19 PM Message Edited by Angelow on 12-09-2006 02:22 PM __________________

12-08-2006, 04:21 PM	#3
Xanoth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Durham, UK Posts: 928	HeadChest - Crypt of Valdoon (final mob)Shoulders - Mistmoore Catacombs (Butler)Forearms - Crypt of Valdoon (final mob)Hands - Kaladim (ring event)Legs - Castle Mistmore (Sage)Feet - Obelisk of Blight (final mob) there was a thread about them on page 2 in the items and equipment sectionno idea about helm, only done each instance once or twice to get any quest updates and didnt bother going back. spent a lot of time working on all the quests to get 100 AA, will post if i find / hear anything about the legendary set helms __________________ Xanoth Leader of Xanadu EQ2 Raid Loot Database

12-08-2006, 05:27 PM	#5
Angelow Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Baltimore Posts: 31	Not to be a naysayer but I know for a fact that the shoulders do not drop in mm cat. off the butler..... I got them off the epic x 2 dragon myself in mm catacombs. I have done valdoon a handfull of times, and never have i seen the chest piece for any class drop from him.... always the arms for different classes. I have a feeling some of your info from the other section is either beta info or simply mistaken. The boots from obelisk is logical as i have seen atleast 5 of the different class pieces drop there and we have a confirmed report. - Ugmar 70 sk __________________

12-08-2006, 06:21 PM	#6
Xanoth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Durham, UK Posts: 928	guess i need to format blockquotes better and give a link in future. but thats just a quote fom anotehr thread, i've neither seen nor care where most of this comes from, just offering info that is posted elsewhere.a lot of mobs from similar zones seem to share lot tables in EoF chances are they have a few locations, like the fabled sets. __________________ Xanoth Leader of Xanadu EQ2 Raid Loot Database

12-08-2006, 07:03 PM	#7
CHIMPNOODLE. Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 923	I got the boots in Obelisk. They are not as good as relic for tanking but they were ok. Considerably less Mit. They were better than the Dark Majestic Sabatons (Sothis drop) by a smidge though. __________________

12-08-2006, 10:30 AM	#2
AziBam Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 682	You can label the boots confirmed on the final mob in Obelisk. They dropped for me there tonight. Decent boots other than they are much too bright and shiny for my taste but it's still an upgrade so...guess I'll live with it for now.

12-08-2006, 05:12 PM	#4
Anselan Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 30	How does it compare with the Relic set? I like the effects it seems to have - but I haven't seen the Mit values on chest or legs yet, the forearms and boots seem in line with Blackcoat stuff.

12-09-2006, 01:03 AM	#8
Nocifer Deathblade Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 850	I heard rumors that gloves drop from kaladim ring event or something like that.. And BP/Leg off MM castle itself. Just heard about it not witnessed the drop.. Message Edited by Nocifer Deathblade on 12-08-2006 03:04 PM __________________ EQ I: Archfiend Nocifer Deathblade -Retired Fall '06, Bristlebane Server Vampire Cavalier, 80 Armorer, 390Transmuter, 138 AP, 2.3M Guild Status Points

12-09-2006, 03:21 AM	#9
Dogm General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 239	I've had the BP drop off an X2 mob in MM castle, would assume the legs drop there as well. __________________

12-09-2006, 03:40 AM	#10
Pentarum Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 165	I have the gloves and bracer. I know where the legs, boots and shoulders drop cause I've seen every class but mine so far drop off them =P Gloves = Kaladim Avatar Ring event boss Bracer = CoV Last boss Boots = OoB Last boss Legs = CMM Sage Shoulders = Butler or Stairwell Mob Chest = CMM x2 mob Head = ? Legendary set is horrible imo. 5 pieces to do a encounter aoe that might proc 1-2 times a fight for 500 damage not including a crit. They really need to redo some of these sets. I mean come on 2% double attack? Make it 5-8% and I might actually consider wearing a set with lots of useless stats and not enough int/str if im trying for dps. The fabled set on the other hand has one gem and also needs looked at. The 10 sec reduction on Drain Vitae is sweet the rest is junk. Str line final AA + Drain Vitae recast reduction AA + 5 pieces of fabled is about 3.5 sec recast on Drain Vitae. Thats a beautiful thing the rest is garbage. Since they seem insistant on giving us some junk aa's we are only going to take if we have nothing better to spend points on (DM 25 sec and Doom Judgement reduction) they could at least add Xsec casting time reduction to these as welll. 2 for 25 to disease damage spells (flat no more of this over the ticks garbage giving me +3 damage = lame!!!) Since 25 Int as it is now might get you 1% more spell damage if your over 510 INT 3 for 5% double attack 4 for 60 sec off Doom J (Come on guys make this usefull more than once every 3-5 min and put the stupid masters in the game already!!!!) 5 for Drain Vitae (As is!!! drools) 6 for 25 Sec off DM, (Woot I can die more often on raids!!) 7 for the 100 hate (bleh not impressed with this at all. Im not a tank sk but the work to get all 7 pieces for this effect when I can get the same thing for 5 or less aa makes it garbage) This makes each piece a upgrade instead of just relic with a glossy graphic and +5 more to stats Next expansion they can do the same again with different spells so that we can mix and match to what we want to be doing. It would give even more diversity to some of us DPS sk's out there and help the Tank sk's as well. Doom judgement would still have a legethy recast but at least it could be used 1 time a fight DM would be down to 2 min recast aprox good for every other fight or 2x on a raid mob (only good for MT cause if im dpsing and I pop this im dead unless I feign the sec I cast it) Message Edited by Pentarum on 12-08-2006 03:08 PM

12-09-2006, 04:25 AM	#11
Dogm General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 239	Pentarum wrote: The 10 sec reduction on Drain Vitae is sweet the rest is junk. Str line final AA + Drain Vitae recast reduction AA + 5 pieces of fabled is about 3.5 sec recast on Drain Vitae. Thats a beautiful thing the rest is garbage. Except that recast reduction is capped at half the original value, so you won't be able to take Drain Vitae under 10s (unless for some reason this set ignores that restriction) __________________

12-10-2006, 12:04 AM	#12
Kryptonix Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 206	Dogmae wrote: Pentarum wrote: The 10 sec reduction on Drain Vitae is sweet the rest is junk. Str line final AA + Drain Vitae recast reduction AA + 5 pieces of fabled is about 3.5 sec recast on Drain Vitae. Thats a beautiful thing the rest is garbage. Except that recast reduction is capped at half the original value, so you won't be able to take Drain Vitae under 10s (unless for some reason this set ignores that restriction) Wow I didnt know that. That sucks major balls. Whats the point of giving us the ability to take it past 10s then? SOE really needs to get their [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] together.

12-10-2006, 06:48 PM	#13
Pentarum Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 165	I wont get my hopes up too much on that then. Still 10sec recast is better than the current 13.2 We can always drop the 5aa in the recast reduction to add somewhere else if its gona cap without it.

12-11-2006, 10:30 PM	#14
Nocifer Deathblade Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 850	Yeah, come on. 3.5 sec on lifetap from 20 sec original recast? That's pretty powerful thing to acquire if it's true. 10 sec sounds reasonable reduction from 20 sec. I guess that SOE just gave us more choices to achieve 10 sec and even casual gamers could achieve 13 seconds without the need of fabled while raiders could just get fabled and skip EOF AA to save 5 points so they can invest into other AAs instead. Casuals just have to waste 5 AAs into sec reduction. Sounds reasonable to me. Choices.. Choices. __________________ EQ I: Archfiend Nocifer Deathblade -Retired Fall '06, Bristlebane Server Vampire Cavalier, 80 Armorer, 390Transmuter, 138 AP, 2.3M Guild Status Points

12-12-2006, 02:22 AM	#15
Saeldar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23	The legendary set isn't that bad for non-raiders. What's disapointing about it, it's that it's barely an upgrade and in some case not an upgrade at all from legendary KoS stuff for non-raiders. It would seem to be the top of the line armor set in EoF for non-raiders, and it's barely an upgrade from the top non-raiders stuff you can get in KoS. On the other hand, I've found lots of jewelry and other misc items that are definitive upgrades in eof from kos stuff. Armor and weapons so far isn't the case it seems.