[Bugs] Arcanna'se Spire quest instance - bugs & feedback

Domino · 10-07-2016, 11:59 PM

This is the version of Arcanna'se spire that you enter while on the tradeskill quest "Forging Ahead". This is a non-combat puzzle zone that you have to solve in order to get to Kunark.

If you have any issues with this zone or the challenges in it, here's a great place to let us know! Smile

(For adventure versions of the Arcanna'se spire, please see the appropriate threads in this forum.)

10-12-2016, 03:38 PM

I am not seeing the orbs around the Queen to click and release her.

10-12-2016, 03:41 PM

I will add resetting the zone worked, but its looking really wierd, put me right up to queen with no aggro and Tserrina and Lanys are just hanging out watching me non aggro.

10-12-2016, 05:40 PM

The mobs in this zone are easy to kill at adventure level 100 (with poor gear). The guards take a bit of a fight but the x2 took 2 hits and the x4 Lanys got one shot with a bow.

Elinea · 10-12-2016, 05:56 PM

edit: Moved this post to the original thread I was posting in. The quest I'm on isn't called "Forging Ahead". It's still "Into the Spire".

Alenna · 10-12-2016, 10:24 PM

I did the adventure version yesterday to but unfortunetly was grouped with a guildmate who zoned me in so I have no idea where or what the zone in to this instance is can someone please tell me what i'm looking for? i'm doing the tradeskill quest one now.

10-13-2016, 03:00 AM

Found scroll to activate golems - still unable to find anything that will allow me to click on it other than some candle wax and crystal shards. Unable to find a recipe or anything else that will allow me to make something to blow the crates up with or just allow me to blow them up without making something (and I have looked at every scrap of paper, book, scroll or other item I could find in the zone).

Edit after the 7th time searching everything in zone the recipe finally decided to appear.

10-13-2016, 07:46 AM

If you find it let me know, I'm looking for it too Smile

10-14-2016, 04:24 AM

I started the tradeskill quest after going through as much of the adventure part as I could. I am unfortunately in my ascension illusion and can't turn it off due to the devs wanting to check things. Well I am on the ship and can't see if I am crouched or not so I keep getting caught. This is frustrating. Maybe put some sort of text that says I am crouched so I know.

Edit: Just realized this is in the incorrect thread.

10-14-2016, 08:46 AM

A guildie helped me find it ! /loc -53, 23, 169 or thereabouts Smile

Domino · 10-14-2016, 11:20 PM

I believe this art is not final, so hopefully it will be a little clearer soon!

Domino · 10-15-2016, 08:39 AM

Elanluelle also specifically tells you it's a the south end of the Abyssal Chasm, and it should be marked on the map as a little red zone arrow.

Niami DenMother · 10-15-2016, 08:49 AM

I ran into someone who insisted that they were using the default maps, and didn't have the little red zone arrow, so I had to give them a loc. I still suspect they had a custom UI going, though. I think they were also looking for an actual spire, not a portal, despite what the quest text says.

That being said, I went to get the loc on the portal for them using a character that has not done the questline at all, and the port object to Obulus can sort of distract folks from the unassuming portal into the spire that is lurking behind it and to one side. Even knowing the portal was there, it took a moment to notice it behind the Obulus port item. It is just nicely nestled into the rocks, trying to be one with the environment, at least from the angle at which I approached.

Alenna · 10-15-2016, 07:00 PM

someone in general chat gave me the waypoint also now tryign to find the queen LOL.

Alenna · 10-15-2016, 07:07 PM

Niami DenMother said: ↑

“I ran into someone who insisted that they were using the default maps, and didn't have the little red zone arrow, so I had to give them a loc. I still suspect they had a custom UI going, though. I think they were also looking for an actual spire, not a portal, despite what the quest text says.

That being said, I went to get the loc on the portal for them using a character that has not done the questline at all, and the port object to Obulus can sort of distract folks from the unassuming portal into the spire that is lurking behind it and to one side. Even knowing the portal was there, it took a moment to notice it behind the Obulus port item. It is just nicely nestled into the rocks, trying to be one with the environment, at least from the angle at which I approached.”

that may have been me on an alt I did a complete reinstall of beta and did not add eq2 mapper and for some reason when I looked again none of the red zone arrows for any of the ToT instances were showing much less the Arcanna'se spire one with eq2 mapper I can see the red arrow zone is for the ToT instances at least but still not see the red zone in arrow for the ARcanna'se spire on the map. now I was on my 56 assassin 100 alchemist so maybe adventure level has something ot do with not seeing the red zone in arrows for ToT maybe I need to be 100 adventurer to see zone in red arrow for the spire. i do use drums UI so may try and see if just default UI will do it I hope not it is hard for me with my small screen to handl the huge icons and xp bar and see what I'm doing.

10-15-2016, 10:25 PM

I aggroed a guardian of arcanna'se and had no way to kill it or drop aggro besides zoning out. Suggest making them leash and drop aggro after a certain distance or be unattackable/untargetable.

When I click the Alchemist's Mortar and Pestle while standing on the ground next to the table it rests on, I get a "too far away" message then cannot reclick the pestle. Clicking the candle to get more wax made the pestle clickable again. I had to jump onto the table and stand on top of the pestle to get the tradeskill create screen to pop up.
Clickable distance and click reset could use a modification/fix when able. Clickable from the ground next to the table it rests on would be perfect.

Alenna · 10-15-2016, 11:17 PM

same thing happened to me. i agree.

Domino · 10-17-2016, 01:13 AM

This is why I added the shorter table beside the big one, you should be able to hop on up there Smile

10-18-2016, 05:28 PM

Is this just a pixel hunting puzzle? Are the items supposed to sparkle? I'm incredibly frustrated, can only find two items that seem relevant (the scroll stand and the box of supplies.) I think the items should stand out a bit more - unless I'm bugged and not seeing them.

Cassi

Niami DenMother · 10-18-2016, 07:03 PM

Things have to be found/done in a certain order. Once you have gotten the update for finding the queen, look carefully on the floor in the room with the scroll stand/pedestal to find the item that goes on the scroll stand. You'll worry about searching for something to make to blow up those supplies *after* you've gotten the first half of the distraction done. BigGrin

Domino · 10-19-2016, 01:42 AM

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I added the shorter table beside the big one so that characters can use it to climb up and stand on the big table. I hadn't even realized any characters could reach it from standing on the ground, and that wasn't intended.

Alenna · 10-19-2016, 08:16 AM

I'm afraid that didn't work for my small ratonga(moppet billy doll shrinking clicky) i had to get on the table with the mortar and pestle. I dread(Not really) when my little fae and arasi crafters have to do it(moppet billy clicky and flight spell from the DoV fae flight questline) LOL. *I'll just jump on the table with the mortar and pestle to craft.

*for roleplay purposes i'd rather not take the effects off my ratonga and fae.

10-19-2016, 09:10 PM

I found the distance I had to enter the room to get the update of having found the queen was inside the aggro radius of the names. Got 1-shotted twice and then just ran in as far as I could the third time to get the update and revive. Danced all over the room entrance and non-aggro range of names to no avail.

10-24-2016, 02:19 AM

Well, I ran into a cutie;

Zone: Arcanna'se Spire: Into The Spire [Tradeskill]
(I swear that was not on the list the first time I entered.)

Walked into the first room off the small green court ... and died instantly.
I was killed by an elite level 110 Primorial Malice shadownight!

Zoned out and back in -- still there. There was another one in the circular entrance way, on the side opposite to your entrance, hiding under a destroyed, level 1, Guardian of Arcanna'se.

10-24-2016, 02:23 AM

I just found the door to the left of the entrance unlocked. It had a door on the right, entering a curved hallway which was being patrolled by a third shadownknight!

Shmogre · 10-24-2016, 02:58 AM

Heh, that's intentional...from yesterday's patch notes:

"Aggro NPCs in the tradeskill quest version of Arcanna'se spire are back and will once again mercilessly stomp careless tradeskillers!"

Back to being sneaksy crafters and tiptoeing through...but we are also crafty crafters, so I'll bet you'll find a way to deal with them. ;^)

Niami DenMother · 10-24-2016, 06:30 AM

When you approach the room with the queen, head to your right (north) along the back of that first long table inside the room, step 1 step further into the room as you round the edge of the table. You'll find it gives you the update with zero aggro. It has worked for me every time I've run it on one of my crafting horde. (about 117, 2, -79 if the right/left is confusing for some reason) Smile

10-24-2016, 07:14 PM

LOL -- so much with keeping up with the updates ...

10-07-2016, 11:59 PM	#1
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	This is the version of Arcanna'se spire that you enter while on the tradeskill quest "Forging Ahead". This is a non-combat puzzle zone that you have to solve in order to get to Kunark. If you have any issues with this zone or the challenges in it, here's a great place to let us know! (For adventure versions of the Arcanna'se spire, please see the appropriate threads in this forum.)

10-13-2016, 07:46 AM	#8
Cloudrat Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Alenna said: ↑ “I did the adventure version yesterday to but unfortunetly was grouped with a guildmate who zoned me in so I have no idea where or what the zone in to this instance is can someone please tell me what i'm looking for? i'm doing the tradeskill quest one now.” If you find it let me know, I'm looking for it too

10-14-2016, 08:46 AM	#10
Cloudrat Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Alenna said: ↑ “I did the adventure version yesterday to but unfortunetly was grouped with a guildmate who zoned me in so I have no idea where or what the zone in to this instance is can someone please tell me what i'm looking for? i'm doing the tradeskill quest one now.” A guildie helped me find it ! /loc -53, 23, 169 or thereabouts

10-14-2016, 11:20 PM	#11
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Niami DenMother said: ↑ “That being said, I went to get the loc on the portal for them using a character that has not done the questline at all, and the port object to Obulus can sort of distract folks from the unassuming portal into the spire that is lurking behind it and to one side. Even knowing the portal was there, it took a moment to notice it behind the Obulus port item. It is just nicely nestled into the rocks, trying to be one with the environment, at least from the angle at which I approached.” I believe this art is not final, so hopefully it will be a little clearer soon!

10-15-2016, 08:39 AM	#12
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Cloudrat said: ↑ “A guildie helped me find it ! /loc -53, 23, 169 or thereabouts” Elanluelle also specifically tells you it's a the south end of the Abyssal Chasm, and it should be marked on the map as a little red zone arrow.

10-12-2016, 03:38 PM	#2
Maripop New Member Posts: n/a	I am not seeing the orbs around the Queen to click and release her.

10-12-2016, 03:41 PM	#3
Maripop New Member Posts: n/a	I will add resetting the zone worked, but its looking really wierd, put me right up to queen with no aggro and Tserrina and Lanys are just hanging out watching me non aggro.

10-12-2016, 05:40 PM	#4
Oldizar New Member Posts: n/a	The mobs in this zone are easy to kill at adventure level 100 (with poor gear). The guards take a bit of a fight but the x2 took 2 hits and the x4 Lanys got one shot with a bow.

10-12-2016, 05:56 PM	#5
Elinea Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	edit: Moved this post to the original thread I was posting in. The quest I'm on isn't called "Forging Ahead". It's still "Into the Spire".

10-12-2016, 10:24 PM	#6
Alenna Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	I did the adventure version yesterday to but unfortunetly was grouped with a guildmate who zoned me in so I have no idea where or what the zone in to this instance is can someone please tell me what i'm looking for? i'm doing the tradeskill quest one now.

10-13-2016, 03:00 AM	#7
Sucha Active Member Posts: n/a	Found scroll to activate golems - still unable to find anything that will allow me to click on it other than some candle wax and crystal shards. Unable to find a recipe or anything else that will allow me to make something to blow the crates up with or just allow me to blow them up without making something (and I have looked at every scrap of paper, book, scroll or other item I could find in the zone). Edit after the 7th time searching everything in zone the recipe finally decided to appear.

10-14-2016, 04:24 AM	#9
Anatha New Member Posts: n/a	I started the tradeskill quest after going through as much of the adventure part as I could. I am unfortunately in my ascension illusion and can't turn it off due to the devs wanting to check things. Well I am on the ship and can't see if I am crouched or not so I keep getting caught. This is frustrating. Maybe put some sort of text that says I am crouched so I know. Edit: Just realized this is in the incorrect thread.

10-15-2016, 08:49 AM	#13
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Domino said: ↑ “Elanluelle also specifically tells you it's a the south end of the Abyssal Chasm, and it should be marked on the map as a little red zone arrow.” I ran into someone who insisted that they were using the default maps, and didn't have the little red zone arrow, so I had to give them a loc. I still suspect they had a custom UI going, though. I think they were also looking for an actual spire, not a portal, despite what the quest text says. That being said, I went to get the loc on the portal for them using a character that has not done the questline at all, and the port object to Obulus can sort of distract folks from the unassuming portal into the spire that is lurking behind it and to one side. Even knowing the portal was there, it took a moment to notice it behind the Obulus port item. It is just nicely nestled into the rocks, trying to be one with the environment, at least from the angle at which I approached.

10-15-2016, 07:00 PM	#14
Alenna Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Cloudrat said: ↑ “A guildie helped me find it ! /loc -53, 23, 169 or thereabouts ” someone in general chat gave me the waypoint also now tryign to find the queen LOL.

10-15-2016, 07:07 PM	#15
Alenna Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Niami DenMother said: ↑ “I ran into someone who insisted that they were using the default maps, and didn't have the little red zone arrow, so I had to give them a loc. I still suspect they had a custom UI going, though. I think they were also looking for an actual spire, not a portal, despite what the quest text says. That being said, I went to get the loc on the portal for them using a character that has not done the questline at all, and the port object to Obulus can sort of distract folks from the unassuming portal into the spire that is lurking behind it and to one side. Even knowing the portal was there, it took a moment to notice it behind the Obulus port item. It is just nicely nestled into the rocks, trying to be one with the environment, at least from the angle at which I approached.” that may have been me on an alt I did a complete reinstall of beta and did not add eq2 mapper and for some reason when I looked again none of the red zone arrows for any of the ToT instances were showing much less the Arcanna'se spire one with eq2 mapper I can see the red arrow zone is for the ToT instances at least but still not see the red zone in arrow for the ARcanna'se spire on the map. now I was on my 56 assassin 100 alchemist so maybe adventure level has something ot do with not seeing the red zone in arrows for ToT maybe I need to be 100 adventurer to see zone in red arrow for the spire. i do use drums UI so may try and see if just default UI will do it I hope not it is hard for me with my small screen to handl the huge icons and xp bar and see what I'm doing.

10-15-2016, 10:25 PM	#16
Zonoth New Member Posts: n/a	I aggroed a guardian of arcanna'se and had no way to kill it or drop aggro besides zoning out. Suggest making them leash and drop aggro after a certain distance or be unattackable/untargetable. When I click the Alchemist's Mortar and Pestle while standing on the ground next to the table it rests on, I get a "too far away" message then cannot reclick the pestle. Clicking the candle to get more wax made the pestle clickable again. I had to jump onto the table and stand on top of the pestle to get the tradeskill create screen to pop up. Clickable distance and click reset could use a modification/fix when able. Clickable from the ground next to the table it rests on would be perfect.

10-15-2016, 11:17 PM	#17
Alenna Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Zonoth said: ↑ “I aggroed a guardian of arcanna'se and had no way to kill it or drop aggro besides zoning out. Suggest making them leash and drop aggro after a certain distance or be unattackable/untargetable. When I click the Alchemist's Mortar and Pestle while standing on the ground next to the table it rests on, I get a "too far away" message then cannot reclick the pestle. Clicking the candle to get more wax made the pestle clickable again. I had to jump onto the table and stand on top of the pestle to get the tradeskill create screen to pop up. Clickable distance and click reset could use a modification/fix when able. Clickable from the ground next to the table it rests on would be perfect.” same thing happened to me. i agree.

10-17-2016, 01:13 AM	#18
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Zonoth said: ↑ “When I click the Alchemist's Mortar and Pestle while standing on the ground next to the table it rests on, I get a "too far away" message then cannot reclick the pestle. Clicking the candle to get more wax made the pestle clickable again. I had to jump onto the table and stand on top of the pestle to get the tradeskill create screen to pop up.” This is why I added the shorter table beside the big one, you should be able to hop on up there

10-18-2016, 05:28 PM	#19
Cassiara New Member Posts: n/a	Is this just a pixel hunting puzzle? Are the items supposed to sparkle? I'm incredibly frustrated, can only find two items that seem relevant (the scroll stand and the box of supplies.) I think the items should stand out a bit more - unless I'm bugged and not seeing them. Cassi

10-18-2016, 07:03 PM	#20
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Cassiara said: ↑ “Is this just a pixel hunting puzzle? Are the items supposed to sparkle? I'm incredibly frustrated, can only find two items that seem relevant (the scroll stand and the box of supplies.) I think the items should stand out a bit more - unless I'm bugged and not seeing them. Cassi” Things have to be found/done in a certain order. Once you have gotten the update for finding the queen, look carefully on the floor in the room with the scroll stand/pedestal to find the item that goes on the scroll stand. You'll worry about searching for something to make to blow up those supplies after you've gotten the first half of the distraction done.

10-19-2016, 01:42 AM	#21
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Alenna said: ↑ “I'm afraid that didn't work for my small ratonga(moppet billy doll shrinking clicky) i had to get on the table with the mortar and pestle. I dread(Not really) when my little fae and arasi crafters have to do it(moppet billy clicky and flight spell from the DoV fae flight questline) LOL. *I'll just jump on the table with the mortar and pestle to craft.” Perhaps I wasn't clear. I added the shorter table beside the big one so that characters can use it to climb up and stand on the big table. I hadn't even realized any characters could reach it from standing on the ground, and that wasn't intended.

10-19-2016, 08:16 AM	#22
Alenna Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Domino said: ↑ “This is why I added the shorter table beside the big one, you should be able to hop on up there ” I'm afraid that didn't work for my small ratonga(moppet billy doll shrinking clicky) i had to get on the table with the mortar and pestle. I dread(Not really) when my little fae and arasi crafters have to do it(moppet billy clicky and flight spell from the DoV fae flight questline) LOL. I'll just jump on the table with the mortar and pestle to craft. for roleplay purposes i'd rather not take the effects off my ratonga and fae.

10-19-2016, 09:10 PM	#23
Leuhi New Member Posts: n/a	I found the distance I had to enter the room to get the update of having found the queen was inside the aggro radius of the names. Got 1-shotted twice and then just ran in as far as I could the third time to get the update and revive. Danced all over the room entrance and non-aggro range of names to no avail.

10-24-2016, 02:19 AM	#24
Grouse Active Member Posts: n/a	Well, I ran into a cutie; Zone: Arcanna'se Spire: Into The Spire [Tradeskill] (I swear that was not on the list the first time I entered.) Walked into the first room off the small green court ... and died instantly. I was killed by an elite level 110 Primorial Malice shadownight! Zoned out and back in -- still there. There was another one in the circular entrance way, on the side opposite to your entrance, hiding under a destroyed, level 1, Guardian of Arcanna'se.

10-24-2016, 02:23 AM	#25
Grouse Active Member Posts: n/a	I just found the door to the left of the entrance unlocked. It had a door on the right, entering a curved hallway which was being patrolled by a third shadownknight!

10-24-2016, 02:58 AM	#26
Shmogre Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Heh, that's intentional...from yesterday's patch notes: "Aggro NPCs in the tradeskill quest version of Arcanna'se spire are back and will once again mercilessly stomp careless tradeskillers!" Back to being sneaksy crafters and tiptoeing through...but we are also crafty crafters, so I'll bet you'll find a way to deal with them. ;^)

10-24-2016, 06:30 AM	#27
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Leuhi said: ↑ “I found the distance I had to enter the room to get the update of having found the queen was inside the aggro radius of the names. Got 1-shotted twice and then just ran in as far as I could the third time to get the update and revive. Danced all over the room entrance and non-aggro range of names to no avail.” When you approach the room with the queen, head to your right (north) along the back of that first long table inside the room, step 1 step further into the room as you round the edge of the table. You'll find it gives you the update with zero aggro. It has worked for me every time I've run it on one of my crafting horde. (about 117, 2, -79 if the right/left is confusing for some reason)

10-24-2016, 07:14 PM	#28
Grouse Active Member Posts: n/a	LOL -- so much with keeping up with the updates ...