Taunting Defense

Driverdo · 02-03-2006, 07:59 PM

As of right now, the snare effect that happened when you activated Taunting Defense is gone. Entered combat, hit the button for it and a few mins into the fight noticed that I was moving around at normal speed. Now, I'm not complaining, nice to still have the same effect without any movenment restriction, just hope this isn't a bug or side effect or whatever... no mention about this in update notes, only that Open Wounds won't fizzle....anyone else notice this yet.............

Message Edited by Driverdown on 02-04-200612:04 AM

Huna · 02-03-2006, 08:07 PM

I think it's a bug, I noticed it also. I also noticed that there is a patch note about the snare not getting worse when you upgrade the skill, so I'm sure it's a bug that will be fixed. SMILEY

Ni · 02-03-2006, 08:09 PM

I, too, assume it is a bug. However, it sure was nice to just leave it on for 2 hours in Clefts last night!

pharacyde · 02-03-2006, 08:41 PM

If guardians still have the snare, it's a bug for guardians or us SMILEY

Anyway I think the snare will come back.

infernus006 · 02-03-2006, 08:52 PM

Yeah enjoy it while it lasts, i'm sure it will get nerfed very soon.

Mjollnyr · 02-03-2006, 11:27 PM

Guardian's does not snare them either.If you look at the spell description, it doesn't mention the snare anymore.So i'm not sure if it is a bug or not. Would be nice if it isn't, would make that spell pretty darn nice.

infernus006 · 02-03-2006, 11:47 PM

I would actually rather have the snare on our HTL thing back if they would change the ring buffs back to the way the worked before. SMILEY

Kaberu · 02-03-2006, 11:53 PM

An Inquisitor guildy also told me that they have a spell that snares them too (A DPS or Haste buff I think), but the snare was gone after LU19 as well. If I'm not mistaken, the description and the effects list both omit reference to the snare, but I need to double check it to be sure.

Ep · 02-04-2006, 01:30 AM

when druids cast sandstorm are they rooted or stifled? maybe thats gone too.

Styk · 02-04-2006, 01:52 AM

If they took the time to change the spell description then i highly doubt it was accidental.... Anyways shhhhhh its rare SoE gives berserkers cake ..........

I love Fudge Cake SMILEY

infernus006 · 02-04-2006, 01:53 AM

It's possible that all the snaring effects that came with certain buffs of every class got deleted in the update. And I'm sure it wasn't intentional. There are so many crazy bugs that came with this new update it is not even funny. They really have their work cut out for them now getting this mess cleaned up.Get this, a friend of mine told me that one of the Paladin's damage AOEs was actually hitting and killing other players and non-attackable NPC's that were nearby whenever it was casted and one of the Pallies on my server had some fun and cleaned out the whole Willow Wood of all NPC's that were there and he killed a low level PC without initiating a duel with him too.The Warden's entire ice line of spells was replaced with a fire one and there was nothing about that in the update notes.The list goes on.Has anyone checked to se if the snare on Wall of Rage still works or not?

Message Edited by infernus006 on 02-03-200603:54 PM

Khal · 02-04-2006, 03:02 AM

I think its an intended change. When examining the spell its normal for something bugged to be missing an effect in the bottom description, like the snare on this spell. But the top description is changed as well. And when you think about it, removeing the snare is more of a convienence change then anything else, doesnt make it anymore powerful.

Mjollnyr · 02-04-2006, 03:57 AM

Kaberu wrote:An Inquisitor guildy also told me that they have a spell that snares them too (A DPS or Haste buff I think), but the snare was gone after LU19 as well. If I'm not mistaken, the description and the effects list both omit reference to the snare, but I need to double check it to be sure.

Only buff i'm aware of that affects the inquistor as such is Zelotry, level 50 +haste buff. It is a toggably buff that slowly drains power, but also stuns the inquistor.As far as i recall, i didn't pay attention, but the stun is still there.I'll check my GF's inquistor tonight to confirm.

infernus006 · 02-04-2006, 04:24 AM

If it was in intended change then why wasn't it included in the update notes? Also the level of all our spells is missing from their description as well. Like I said, a lot of things got really messed up in this update.

Khal · 02-04-2006, 04:57 AM

They have stated that the spell level missing is a bug and due to be fixed.

There has been a rather long history of undocumented changes. Remember when rampage was broken then fixed? Never a word. SOE claims that somethings just miss the patch notes. Also, the one posting the changes is a differant person then the one who decides them, so sometimes there is miss communication. Not saying this is the case, but its a possability.

Cozumel · 02-04-2006, 09:35 AM

Bah... thats nothing. Warlock ROOT doesn't work anymore!! Quit your complaining!

Khal · 02-04-2006, 11:43 AM

Cozumel wrote:Bah... thats nothing. Warlock ROOT doesn't work anymore!! Quit your complaining!

Why would we complain over a good change to a spell???

Huna · 02-04-2006, 10:05 PM

Here's why I think it's a bug

"Berserker changes:- The snare amount on Intimidating Defense will no longer get worse as the ability is upgraded."

that was in the patch notes for update 19 additions. Not the same spell, but it's in the same line isn't it?

Mjollnyr · 02-04-2006, 10:18 PM

Hunadi wrote:
Here's why I think it's a bug
"Berserker changes:- The snare amount on Intimidating Defense will no longer get worse as the ability is upgraded."

that was in the patch notes for update 19 additions. Not the same spell, but it's in the same line isn't it?

They have stealth changed skills before.While i'm not sure if it was intended or not. Reason to beleive it may of been intended.Monk and Bruiser Hold the line type spells did not incur any penalty. They may have re-evaluated the skills and decided the snare was un-nessecary.This is of course speculation.

DarkMasterMan · 02-04-2006, 10:23 PM

Personally I'm not complaining!

infernus006 · 02-04-2006, 11:01 PM

I'm not complaing about it, it's just that I'm starting to get used to it not having that snare and I'm afraid they will change it back and then I will have to get used to the snare again. LOL

Robbpilot · 02-08-2006, 08:44 PM

Is everyone 100% sure that the spell is working at all right now? I haven't been able to verify that yet. Is it possible that more than the snare is gone... like the extra hate and damage too?

infernus006 · 02-08-2006, 08:57 PM

As far as I can tell the damage and hate proc are still working just fine.

Mezmier · 02-09-2006, 11:56 AM

How about just minding your P's an Q's

Thx info

Message Edited by Mezmier on 02-08-200610:56 PM

02-03-2006, 07:59 PM	#1
Driverdo Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	As of right now, the snare effect that happened when you activated Taunting Defense is gone. Entered combat, hit the button for it and a few mins into the fight noticed that I was moving around at normal speed. Now, I'm not complaining, nice to still have the same effect without any movenment restriction, just hope this isn't a bug or side effect or whatever... no mention about this in update notes, only that Open Wounds won't fizzle....anyone else notice this yet............. Message Edited by Driverdown on 02-04-200612:04 AM __________________ Alixx Klavier, Lvl 60 Berserker (on sabatical) Thome Aketh, Lvl 50 Wizard (on sabatical) Dread Crushbone USN MA3 Yokosuka, Japan

02-03-2006, 08:07 PM	#2
Huna Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 215	I think it's a bug, I noticed it also. I also noticed that there is a patch note about the snare not getting worse when you upgrade the skill, so I'm sure it's a bug that will be fixed. __________________ Drayden 70 Berserker/ 44+Tailor The Brethren Kithicor Server

02-03-2006, 08:41 PM	#4
pharacyde Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 308	If guardians still have the snare, it's a bug for guardians or us Anyway I think the snare will come back. __________________

02-03-2006, 11:27 PM	#6
Mjollnyr Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 237	Guardian's does not snare them either.If you look at the spell description, it doesn't mention the snare anymore.So i'm not sure if it is a bug or not. Would be nice if it isn't, would make that spell pretty darn nice. __________________ ======================== Grind -- Guardian -- Kithicor -- Chaotic Legion

02-04-2006, 01:30 AM	#9
Ep General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 435	when druids cast sandstorm are they rooted or stifled? maybe thats gone too. __________________ --- Sir Auron

02-03-2006, 08:09 PM	#3
Ni General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 192	I, too, assume it is a bug. However, it sure was nice to just leave it on for 2 hours in Clefts last night!

02-03-2006, 08:52 PM	#5
infernus006 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY, USA Posts: 863	Yeah enjoy it while it lasts, i'm sure it will get nerfed very soon.

02-03-2006, 11:47 PM	#7
infernus006 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY, USA Posts: 863	I would actually rather have the snare on our HTL thing back if they would change the ring buffs back to the way the worked before.

02-03-2006, 11:53 PM	#8
Kaberu Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 405	An Inquisitor guildy also told me that they have a spell that snares them too (A DPS or Haste buff I think), but the snare was gone after LU19 as well. If I'm not mistaken, the description and the effects list both omit reference to the snare, but I need to double check it to be sure.

02-04-2006, 01:52 AM	#10
Styk Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Diego,CA Posts: 559	If they took the time to change the spell description then i highly doubt it was accidental.... Anyways shhhhhh its rare SoE gives berserkers cake .......... I love Fudge Cake __________________ Zesstra - 70 Warlock Halcyon Affinity - Antonia Bayle

02-04-2006, 01:53 AM	#11
infernus006 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY, USA Posts: 863	It's possible that all the snaring effects that came with certain buffs of every class got deleted in the update. And I'm sure it wasn't intentional. There are so many crazy bugs that came with this new update it is not even funny. They really have their work cut out for them now getting this mess cleaned up.Get this, a friend of mine told me that one of the Paladin's damage AOEs was actually hitting and killing other players and non-attackable NPC's that were nearby whenever it was casted and one of the Pallies on my server had some fun and cleaned out the whole Willow Wood of all NPC's that were there and he killed a low level PC without initiating a duel with him too.The Warden's entire ice line of spells was replaced with a fire one and there was nothing about that in the update notes.The list goes on.Has anyone checked to se if the snare on Wall of Rage still works or not? Message Edited by infernus006 on 02-03-200603:54 PM

02-04-2006, 03:02 AM	#12
Khal Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 649	I think its an intended change. When examining the spell its normal for something bugged to be missing an effect in the bottom description, like the snare on this spell. But the top description is changed as well. And when you think about it, removeing the snare is more of a convienence change then anything else, doesnt make it anymore powerful.

02-04-2006, 03:57 AM	#13
Mjollnyr Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 237	Kaberu wrote:An Inquisitor guildy also told me that they have a spell that snares them too (A DPS or Haste buff I think), but the snare was gone after LU19 as well. If I'm not mistaken, the description and the effects list both omit reference to the snare, but I need to double check it to be sure. Only buff i'm aware of that affects the inquistor as such is Zelotry, level 50 +haste buff. It is a toggably buff that slowly drains power, but also stuns the inquistor.As far as i recall, i didn't pay attention, but the stun is still there.I'll check my GF's inquistor tonight to confirm. __________________ ======================== Grind -- Guardian -- Kithicor -- Chaotic Legion

02-04-2006, 04:24 AM	#14
infernus006 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY, USA Posts: 863	If it was in intended change then why wasn't it included in the update notes? Also the level of all our spells is missing from their description as well. Like I said, a lot of things got really messed up in this update.

02-04-2006, 04:57 AM	#15
Khal Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 649	They have stated that the spell level missing is a bug and due to be fixed. There has been a rather long history of undocumented changes. Remember when rampage was broken then fixed? Never a word. SOE claims that somethings just miss the patch notes. Also, the one posting the changes is a differant person then the one who decides them, so sometimes there is miss communication. Not saying this is the case, but its a possability.

02-04-2006, 09:35 AM	#16
Cozumel Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 203	Bah... thats nothing. Warlock ROOT doesn't work anymore!! Quit your complaining!

02-04-2006, 11:43 AM	#17
Khal Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 649	Cozumel wrote:Bah... thats nothing. Warlock ROOT doesn't work anymore!! Quit your complaining! Why would we complain over a good change to a spell???

02-04-2006, 10:05 PM	#18
Huna Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 215	Here's why I think it's a bug "Berserker changes:- The snare amount on Intimidating Defense will no longer get worse as the ability is upgraded." that was in the patch notes for update 19 additions. Not the same spell, but it's in the same line isn't it? __________________ Drayden 70 Berserker/ 44+Tailor The Brethren Kithicor Server

02-04-2006, 10:18 PM	#19
Mjollnyr Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 237	Hunadi wrote: Here's why I think it's a bug "Berserker changes:- The snare amount on Intimidating Defense will no longer get worse as the ability is upgraded." that was in the patch notes for update 19 additions. Not the same spell, but it's in the same line isn't it? They have stealth changed skills before.While i'm not sure if it was intended or not. Reason to beleive it may of been intended.Monk and Bruiser Hold the line type spells did not incur any penalty. They may have re-evaluated the skills and decided the snare was un-nessecary.This is of course speculation. __________________ ======================== Grind -- Guardian -- Kithicor -- Chaotic Legion

02-04-2006, 10:23 PM	#20
DarkMasterMan Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 75	Personally I'm not complaining!

02-04-2006, 11:01 PM	#21
infernus006 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY, USA Posts: 863	I'm not complaing about it, it's just that I'm starting to get used to it not having that snare and I'm afraid they will change it back and then I will have to get used to the snare again. LOL

02-08-2006, 08:44 PM	#22
Robbpilot Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 111	Is everyone 100% sure that the spell is working at all right now? I haven't been able to verify that yet. Is it possible that more than the snare is gone... like the extra hate and damage too?

02-08-2006, 08:57 PM	#23
infernus006 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY, USA Posts: 863	As far as I can tell the damage and hate proc are still working just fine.

02-09-2006, 11:56 AM	#24
Mezmier Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59	How about just minding your P's an Q's Thx info Message Edited by Mezmier on 02-08-200610:56 PM __________________