Incoming Adjustment for Priest Class.

-Aonein- · 02-25-2005, 09:03 PM

Priest class's are having the agro generated by Reactive / Ward's fixed soon so the agro generated will go to them instead of the Tank or who ever is healed / warded. I thought id post this as a head's up to you Berserker's out there that think you might have it too easy in the agro department :

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=28528#M28528

And here is something for a hell of a laugh, i almost cryed myself to death laughing at this :

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=29640#M29640

All in all though, if you can hold agro of a chain nuking wizard in his present form today, then you / we wont have no problem's.

Taemek Frozenberg 40th Berserker
16th Outfitter
Blood and Ice
Everfrost Server

Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )
70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist
Five Rings on Luclin Server

cr0wangel · 02-26-2005, 12:09 AM

Thank you for the info, I am not sure what to think about this update. Healers will get more aggro I guess? Hmm...

I noticed that reactives and wards usually prevent me to go berserk. I mean, if Focus Rage is maintened and I have a reactive / ward casted on me, I usually don't go berserk even if I am taking damage. Is it a bug or it was made like this? Sometimes for easy mobs, I ask the healer to not use any reactives or wards because I want to go berserk and those spells seem to prevent going berserk.

Swordmage · 03-03-2005, 09:38 PM

From what I have read, Clerics and Shaman will generate almost as much hate as Druids currently do and Druid hate will be scaled back a bit so all 3 will be equal.

So, if you can tank for a druid, you are all set.

Scarax · 03-04-2005, 12:37 AM

This has been a long time coming honestly. My girlfriend plays a Fury and she always has to think before casting a Regrowth or Bloom on me. Shaman's and Cleric's had it WAY too easy. They could just sit back and cast and read a book in the background. I'm obviously being a little facetious here so all you Shaman's and Cleric's don't flame me. I will tell you this though. It is absolutely beyond time this happened. Furies have gotten a pretty bum deal as a whole and this should even things out somewhat between the healing classes.

Zenmu · 03-08-2005, 05:48 AM

I'm a bit worried about this personally...

Under normal circumstances (basic xp group) doing 2 single ^s, or ^^'s or groups of 4 or fewer mobs, i have absolutely no problem holding agro off of druids.

But in events like the boat ride's, especially EL... i hate having a druid(s) as the main healer. I have to spam group buffs everytime their up, plus single and AE taunts to hold agro on swarms of mobs, or groups of 6 or more. Throwing in a ^ ^ like the EL boat ride just makes things more complicated...

It took me 3 trys to do EL, the first and last i was MT, and it wasn't until the third time that i figured out to skip on doing damage and just spam AE's and group buffs to keep mobs off of the healer.

This was at level 27-28, with all taunts at adept 1.

It might of just been a level thing, but i occasionally have similar issues when dealing with add's without a mezer. With non druids, i can hit single taunt, ae taunt, and taunting blow once (all adept 1) on an add, and hold that agro fairly easy (throwing in a few group buffs mid fight with the non-add just to make sure) with any healer, other than a druid. With a druid, i'll occasionally have to switch back and re-taunt it, or if the fight's going real bad and the druids spamming heals, i'll have to use rescue to peel it off.

More than two ^ ^ mobs in the camp, without a mezer, and a druid as main healer usually means evac unless their green or all blue. With any other healer or combination of healers other than druid, i usually loose agro on an add, and that agro usually is on a healer. What's killing me on add's isn't the ammount of mitigation i'm doing, or the ammount of mana a druids spending on me per-say... it's the ammount of agro they generate, and the ammount of mana they spend keeping themselves alive when they pull that agro off me, while i try to take it back.

I'm just hoping this is because of my level (29), and the fact that i'm routinely fighting mobs 2-3 levels above me, but still using my early to mid 20's taunts... I see a new single taunt and the training group taunt on the horizon... hopefully this will negate my current issues, and the future ones with other priest classes.

Solanara · 03-08-2005, 11:52 PM

I noticed that reactives and wards usually prevent me to go berserk.

This is strange. I am an inquisitor and my husband is a berserker. Reactive heals have never stopped him from going berserk. However, when I was a mystic, the wards did prevent him from zerking because it prevents damage.

As for the change in agro, I'm not worried about it. It's pretty routine for the dps in our groups to "forgot" to assist and mana-dump on the wrong mob (warlock hit 180dps. lol.) and agro still wasn't ping-ponging. We've also been with druids who chain-HoT and it's not a problem.

02-25-2005, 09:03 PM	#1
-Aonein- Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,673	Priest class's are having the agro generated by Reactive / Ward's fixed soon so the agro generated will go to them instead of the Tank or who ever is healed / warded. I thought id post this as a head's up to you Berserker's out there that think you might have it too easy in the agro department : http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=28528#M28528 And here is something for a hell of a laugh, i almost cryed myself to death laughing at this : http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=29640#M29640 All in all though, if you can hold agro of a chain nuking wizard in his present form today, then you / we wont have no problem's. Taemek Frozenberg 40th Berserker 16th Outfitter Blood and Ice Everfrost Server Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired ) 70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist Five Rings on Luclin Server __________________

03-03-2005, 09:38 PM	#3
Swordmage Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 343	From what I have read, Clerics and Shaman will generate almost as much hate as Druids currently do and Druid hate will be scaled back a bit so all 3 will be equal. So, if you can tank for a druid, you are all set. __________________ The Armstrong Clan of Unrest Old Timers Guild

03-04-2005, 12:37 AM	#4
Scarax Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 96	This has been a long time coming honestly. My girlfriend plays a Fury and she always has to think before casting a Regrowth or Bloom on me. Shaman's and Cleric's had it WAY too easy. They could just sit back and cast and read a book in the background. I'm obviously being a little facetious here so all you Shaman's and Cleric's don't flame me. I will tell you this though. It is absolutely beyond time this happened. Furies have gotten a pretty bum deal as a whole and this should even things out somewhat between the healing classes. __________________ Scaraxis Frostfury - Level 43 Berserker Guild Leader of The Wicked - Antonia Bayle http://www.wickedguild.com

03-08-2005, 05:48 AM	#5
Zenmu Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21	I'm a bit worried about this personally... Under normal circumstances (basic xp group) doing 2 single ^s, or ^^'s or groups of 4 or fewer mobs, i have absolutely no problem holding agro off of druids. But in events like the boat ride's, especially EL... i hate having a druid(s) as the main healer. I have to spam group buffs everytime their up, plus single and AE taunts to hold agro on swarms of mobs, or groups of 6 or more. Throwing in a ^ ^ like the EL boat ride just makes things more complicated... It took me 3 trys to do EL, the first and last i was MT, and it wasn't until the third time that i figured out to skip on doing damage and just spam AE's and group buffs to keep mobs off of the healer. This was at level 27-28, with all taunts at adept 1. It might of just been a level thing, but i occasionally have similar issues when dealing with add's without a mezer. With non druids, i can hit single taunt, ae taunt, and taunting blow once (all adept 1) on an add, and hold that agro fairly easy (throwing in a few group buffs mid fight with the non-add just to make sure) with any healer, other than a druid. With a druid, i'll occasionally have to switch back and re-taunt it, or if the fight's going real bad and the druids spamming heals, i'll have to use rescue to peel it off. More than two ^ ^ mobs in the camp, without a mezer, and a druid as main healer usually means evac unless their green or all blue. With any other healer or combination of healers other than druid, i usually loose agro on an add, and that agro usually is on a healer. What's killing me on add's isn't the ammount of mitigation i'm doing, or the ammount of mana a druids spending on me per-say... it's the ammount of agro they generate, and the ammount of mana they spend keeping themselves alive when they pull that agro off me, while i try to take it back. I'm just hoping this is because of my level (29), and the fact that i'm routinely fighting mobs 2-3 levels above me, but still using my early to mid 20's taunts... I see a new single taunt and the training group taunt on the horizon... hopefully this will negate my current issues, and the future ones with other priest classes. __________________ Armatige - Dead sexuh Dark Elf Ranger of Kith - (deleted) Duran - Axe wielding manic Dwarf Zerker of Kith Armada - Area 51 Escapee, and Erudite Coercer of Kith Sermon - Smallest Inquisitor Evah of Kith Armatige - Wouldbe Woodie Warlock of Kith I have a life, really

02-26-2005, 12:09 AM	#2
cr0wangel Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 594	Thank you for the info, I am not sure what to think about this update. Healers will get more aggro I guess? Hmm... I noticed that reactives and wards usually prevent me to go berserk. I mean, if Focus Rage is maintened and I have a reactive / ward casted on me, I usually don't go berserk even if I am taking damage. Is it a bug or it was made like this? Sometimes for easy mobs, I ask the healer to not use any reactives or wards because I want to go berserk and those spells seem to prevent going berserk.

03-08-2005, 11:52 PM	#6
Solanara Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 13	I noticed that reactives and wards usually prevent me to go berserk. This is strange. I am an inquisitor and my husband is a berserker. Reactive heals have never stopped him from going berserk. However, when I was a mystic, the wards did prevent him from zerking because it prevents damage. As for the change in agro, I'm not worried about it. It's pretty routine for the dps in our groups to "forgot" to assist and mana-dump on the wrong mob (warlock hit 180dps. lol.) and agro still wasn't ping-ponging. We've also been with druids who chain-HoT and it's not a problem.