Tanking/grouping for Mistmore Castle

Dalthenn · 12-14-2006, 09:12 PM

I was wondering if you guys could give me some pointers on a group setup for this zone. What kind of healers, mages/cc and DPS do you guys recommend for this zone?I know this is a tough zone and it takes some kind of strategy to get past the first room in this zone.The main reason why I'm asking this is because I'm the last part of my diety quest (Rallos Zek) and I need to get some vampire fangs from that zone.Also, I'd like to know if I'm suited to tank this zone, and here's a link to my current gear.Thanks for any advise.

highlander · 12-14-2006, 10:19 PM

I've had success with a fairly standard group.. 1 healer (hopefully a templar), 1 enchanter, and the rest dps. Any of the hate transfer classes is nice of course until Agression is implemented. Also, the enchanter brings to the table mez and stuns for the harder mobs.

If I can't get an enchanter, I go in with 2 healers.

As long as you have stacked reactives on you and the healer(s) are curing your dots.. You should be ok.

X

Yimway · 12-15-2006, 02:56 AM

I feel crowd control is mandatory for doing much of anything in this zone. Illusionist / coercer + tank + defiler/temp + 3 dps classes and your golden. Sorry bards, don't need ya SMILEY

Wargurine · 12-15-2006, 12:31 PM

Dalthenn wrote:The main reason why I'm asking this is because I'm the last part of my diety quest (Rallos Zek) and I need to get some vampire fangs from that zone.

If your only going in for that reason, then your making this waay harder on yourself than needed. The first few mobs in the zone are non heroic, so get your self a friend or two and just kill 25 of them, you aint gotta try and deal with the heroic mobs

Excedium · 12-15-2006, 11:41 PM

I was able to do half of the fangs on my own. Technically could have soloed the last step but found an inquisitor to duo it and went faster of course. Some of the mobs get lucky and can kill you. But all you do is zone out. When I did it I was maybe 1 third fabled with a fabled 1hander. Its possible just very grueling.

Super Du · 12-15-2006, 11:50 PM

that zone is easy just get 1 crowd control necro or [Removed for Content] troub would work don't have to be chanter, chanter is nice cuz u get regen and u do have to move quick through that place... but if you don't find one there's plenty of other sub. classes u can use. As long as you can tank 3 mobs at once you will not have a problem... just learn those pulls =) and one healer should be nuff unless they afk /sex

Judist · 12-16-2006, 03:06 AM

While you could consider it completly overkill, the most sucessful MM groups I've been in are pure MT raid setup groups.

1 plate tank

1 cleric

1 shaman

1 druid

1 coercer

1 top tier dps

Granted the shaman is usually the only one healing, however if anything goes wrong (adds, healer killed, ect) this setup will save you. And considering your only going up against heroics the DPS is plenty.

With the above setup we can usually hit every named with no deaths and in reasonable time.

Super Du · 12-16-2006, 04:35 AM

umm where's your dps... 3 healers is an over kill... 2 max... u have to move fast there if u want to cover different nameds not just sit in one spot... which is the best way in there... soooo THERE! in your FACE! get one healer maybe two if your gear sucks [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], get to know zone and how to pull it and it'll be cake u can do it with 4 people after

Judist · 12-16-2006, 11:12 AM

Healers can DPS just fine. Like I said its overkill but its also a guarentee you'll get r done without incident. It's not a knock on tanks or how good they are, its just a solid way to clear MM entirely.

And if your healers arent doing 500+ dps (1k+ for the druid) then they need to try harder.

Tyrion · 12-16-2006, 02:13 PM

Easy time in there with the following:

Guardian

Defiler

Coercer

Assassin

Brigand

Wizard

Things die....fast.

Dalthenn · 12-18-2006, 07:25 PM

Yes, thanks for your suggestions guys.I was able to duo with a guildie and we killed the mobs at the entrance.But yes, I'm tired of doing Valdoon and Obelisk, so I'll take your advice when setting up groups for Mistmoore Castle.

Aven Elonis · 12-19-2006, 04:43 AM

I like any 2 healers and any 3 DPS. Mix and Match as needed.

Skeptycal · 12-19-2006, 11:48 PM

I would say you will be able to enjoy the zone most and kill anything that isn't epic if you bring a coercer (or illusionist i guess) and one healer. All the times i have been there it doesn't seem to matter at all what healer class as long as they are good. Bards are great, mages are great, any other classes work great. Just take people that you know and have fun for a few hours. The chanter is the most important I think. It's a fun zone with a lot of named and discovery. Just take your friends whatever class they are and you'll have a blast, but make sure one of your friends is a chanter =)

Pexsus · 12-26-2006, 02:03 PM

I'm far from fabled out, still have a lot of leggy gear and I had a good run on the downstairs mobs (from catacombs door to the epic x2 by the stairs) including named mobs with:

Guardian, Inquisitor, Enchanter, Assassin, Brigand, Necro.

Just have to ensure you are playing with a healer and a chanter that know their toons VERY well. It takes a lot more work with one healer (balancing out defensive buffs on top of aggro) but still very doable and a hell of a lot of fun. Havent had a workout like that since back when Nizara wasnt a joke.

Crispy · 12-26-2006, 06:11 PM

5 manned this a few days ago pretty succefully- got all the way upto sage and killed him then the lvl 75 guards repoped on us and wiped. It was pretty easy though some of the named encounters got a little hairy.group conisted of GuardianDirgeDefilerNecroAssasinAs long as you dont pull more than 1 group and you move at a good pace should be fine.

Illustrious · 12-27-2006, 02:14 AM

A 2 healer + 3 dps grp works fine, but a crowd control/chanter helps much more in place of the second healer (if u can get 1 of course).

12-15-2006, 02:56 AM	#3
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	I feel crowd control is mandatory for doing much of anything in this zone. Illusionist / coercer + tank + defiler/temp + 3 dps classes and your golden. Sorry bards, don't need ya __________________

12-15-2006, 12:31 PM	#4
Wargurine Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 152	Dalthenn wrote:The main reason why I'm asking this is because I'm the last part of my diety quest (Rallos Zek) and I need to get some vampire fangs from that zone. If your only going in for that reason, then your making this waay harder on yourself than needed. The first few mobs in the zone are non heroic, so get your self a friend or two and just kill 25 of them, you aint gotta try and deal with the heroic mobs __________________ Nafawo Ebonscaled 80 Assassin, Soulforged Bohow Long'Claw 80 Zerker, Soulforged

12-15-2006, 11:41 PM	#5
Excedium Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 57	I was able to do half of the fangs on my own. Technically could have soloed the last step but found an inquisitor to duo it and went faster of course. Some of the mobs get lucky and can kill you. But all you do is zone out. When I did it I was maybe 1 third fabled with a fabled 1hander. Its possible just very grueling. __________________

12-15-2006, 11:50 PM	#6
Super Du Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 62	that zone is easy just get 1 crowd control necro or [Removed for Content] troub would work don't have to be chanter, chanter is nice cuz u get regen and u do have to move quick through that place... but if you don't find one there's plenty of other sub. classes u can use. As long as you can tank 3 mobs at once you will not have a problem... just learn those pulls =) and one healer should be nuff unless they afk /sex __________________

12-16-2006, 04:35 AM	#8
Super Du Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 62	umm where's your dps... 3 healers is an over kill... 2 max... u have to move fast there if u want to cover different nameds not just sit in one spot... which is the best way in there... soooo THERE! in your FACE! get one healer maybe two if your gear sucks [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], get to know zone and how to pull it and it'll be cake u can do it with 4 people after __________________

12-14-2006, 09:12 PM	#1
Dalthenn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 124	I was wondering if you guys could give me some pointers on a group setup for this zone. What kind of healers, mages/cc and DPS do you guys recommend for this zone?I know this is a tough zone and it takes some kind of strategy to get past the first room in this zone.The main reason why I'm asking this is because I'm the last part of my diety quest (Rallos Zek) and I need to get some vampire fangs from that zone.Also, I'd like to know if I'm suited to tank this zone, and here's a link to my current gear.Thanks for any advise.

12-14-2006, 10:19 PM	#2
highlander Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	I've had success with a fairly standard group.. 1 healer (hopefully a templar), 1 enchanter, and the rest dps. Any of the hate transfer classes is nice of course until Agression is implemented. Also, the enchanter brings to the table mez and stuns for the harder mobs. If I can't get an enchanter, I go in with 2 healers. As long as you have stacked reactives on you and the healer(s) are curing your dots.. You should be ok. X

12-16-2006, 03:06 AM	#7
Judist Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 432	While you could consider it completly overkill, the most sucessful MM groups I've been in are pure MT raid setup groups. 1 plate tank 1 cleric 1 shaman 1 druid 1 coercer 1 top tier dps Granted the shaman is usually the only one healing, however if anything goes wrong (adds, healer killed, ect) this setup will save you. And considering your only going up against heroics the DPS is plenty. With the above setup we can usually hit every named with no deaths and in reasonable time.

12-16-2006, 11:12 AM	#9
Judist Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 432	Healers can DPS just fine. Like I said its overkill but its also a guarentee you'll get r done without incident. It's not a knock on tanks or how good they are, its just a solid way to clear MM entirely. And if your healers arent doing 500+ dps (1k+ for the druid) then they need to try harder.

12-16-2006, 02:13 PM	#10
Tyrion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 159	Easy time in there with the following: Guardian Defiler Coercer Assassin Brigand Wizard Things die....fast. __________________ LDL Thorren 90 Guardian of Vigilance

12-18-2006, 07:25 PM	#11
Dalthenn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 124	Yes, thanks for your suggestions guys.I was able to duo with a guildie and we killed the mobs at the entrance.But yes, I'm tired of doing Valdoon and Obelisk, so I'll take your advice when setting up groups for Mistmoore Castle.

12-19-2006, 04:43 AM	#12
Aven Elonis Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 273	I like any 2 healers and any 3 DPS. Mix and Match as needed.

12-19-2006, 11:48 PM	#13
Skeptycal Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 125	I would say you will be able to enjoy the zone most and kill anything that isn't epic if you bring a coercer (or illusionist i guess) and one healer. All the times i have been there it doesn't seem to matter at all what healer class as long as they are good. Bards are great, mages are great, any other classes work great. Just take people that you know and have fun for a few hours. The chanter is the most important I think. It's a fun zone with a lot of named and discovery. Just take your friends whatever class they are and you'll have a blast, but make sure one of your friends is a chanter =) __________________ Nada Dam'Ting - 7x Guardian Quest - 80 Necro Voices Within -- Venekor

12-26-2006, 02:03 PM	#14
Pexsus Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 37	I'm far from fabled out, still have a lot of leggy gear and I had a good run on the downstairs mobs (from catacombs door to the epic x2 by the stairs) including named mobs with: Guardian, Inquisitor, Enchanter, Assassin, Brigand, Necro. Just have to ensure you are playing with a healer and a chanter that know their toons VERY well. It takes a lot more work with one healer (balancing out defensive buffs on top of aggro) but still very doable and a hell of a lot of fun. Havent had a workout like that since back when Nizara wasnt a joke. __________________ A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. - George Bernard Shaw

12-26-2006, 06:11 PM	#15
Crispy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4	5 manned this a few days ago pretty succefully- got all the way upto sage and killed him then the lvl 75 guards repoped on us and wiped. It was pretty easy though some of the named encounters got a little hairy.group conisted of GuardianDirgeDefilerNecroAssasinAs long as you dont pull more than 1 group and you move at a good pace should be fine.

12-27-2006, 02:14 AM	#16
Illustrious Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 226	A 2 healer + 3 dps grp works fine, but a crowd control/chanter helps much more in place of the second healer (if u can get 1 of course).