Ruin?

Shady · 12-02-2004, 05:35 AM

The skill "Ruin" says it is a skill that does damage to your target and slashing damage over time. I was guessing it is much like Wound, but there is no icon under maintained, and their is no "YOUR Ruin hits targer for XY" in my battle spam that I see, is this bugged?

Also is Shouting Cry, Toughness, and possibly even Taunting challenge broken? Any links appreciated.

Thanks all! :smileyvery-happy:

Fable_E · 12-02-2004, 07:10 AM

At App 2 I was wondering the same thing.. the dmg does not seem to be DoT instead it seems to be applied immediatly.. I see dmg from 1 or 2 sources so far and both say Ruin.. ie.

You Ruin the elephant for 102 dmg

You Ruin the elephant for 18 dmg.

The second number is always significantly lower than the first though.. im wondering if at App 3 it does 3 hits.

Fable_E · 12-02-2004, 10:05 AM

Checked this tonight and verified it with another Guardian - Appears to do 2 hits with no noticable DoT thereafter.

Dekan · 12-02-2004, 11:00 AM

You know what the difference between combat art levels is, right? It wont change the function of the spell, i.e. adding more ticks of dmg or whatnot... It's basically just a modifier to your level.

Suppose you're lvl 26 and you use App1 Ruin... your dmg, chance to hit and whatnot is calculated as if you were lvl 25. Use Master1 Ruin and your dmg, chance to hit are calculated as if you were lvl 30... I dont know if itd actually be lvl 30, but thats how it works...

Lightmoog · 12-02-2004, 02:40 PM

There is a dot tick

it is a long wait, 45 or 60 seconds, i never really counted. But it does about 80 dmg for me. Most of the time, the fights don't last long enough to see it, or i have used ruin again :p.

ThramFalc · 12-02-2004, 03:32 PM

At level 26 with adept 3 the tics do about 114 damage each but they are ridiculously far apart. In a long battle I might get two tics. It never appears to wear off however. I would say the slow tics are a bug and I recommend we ask it be sped up and that a maintained icon be added much like wound.

Crus · 12-02-2004, 05:23 PM

I've been wondering about this skill too. I've also seen that it hits twice right away. Never kept looking for a tic for more than 10 sec maybe so I haven't seen the late tic...

Fable_E · 12-02-2004, 05:36 PM

Dekan wrote:

You know what the difference between combat art levels is, right? It wont change the function of the spell, i.e. adding more ticks of dmg or whatnot... It's basically just a modifier to your level.

If that was the case Battle Cry App 1 would not have a 20 sec less timer than Battle Cry App 3. Which it does.

Hypothetically a DoT ability is per Tick.. increasing the timer could therefore increase dmg.

12-02-2004, 07:10 AM	#2
Fable_E Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 95	At App 2 I was wondering the same thing.. the dmg does not seem to be DoT instead it seems to be applied immediatly.. I see dmg from 1 or 2 sources so far and both say Ruin.. ie. You Ruin the elephant for 102 dmg You Ruin the elephant for 18 dmg. The second number is always significantly lower than the first though.. im wondering if at App 3 it does 3 hits. __________________ 46 Guardian / 50 Provisioner

12-02-2004, 10:05 AM	#3
Fable_E Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 95	Checked this tonight and verified it with another Guardian - Appears to do 2 hits with no noticable DoT thereafter. __________________ 46 Guardian / 50 Provisioner

12-02-2004, 05:23 PM	#7
Crus Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21	I've been wondering about this skill too. I've also seen that it hits twice right away. Never kept looking for a tic for more than 10 sec maybe so I haven't seen the late tic... __________________ Torulv Thunderforge, Guardian & Armorer of Lux Arcana Splitpaw Server

12-02-2004, 05:36 PM	#8
Fable_E Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 95	Dekan wrote: You know what the difference between combat art levels is, right? It wont change the function of the spell, i.e. adding more ticks of dmg or whatnot... It's basically just a modifier to your level. If that was the case Battle Cry App 1 would not have a 20 sec less timer than Battle Cry App 3. Which it does. Hypothetically a DoT ability is per Tick.. increasing the timer could therefore increase dmg. __________________ 46 Guardian / 50 Provisioner

12-02-2004, 05:35 AM	#1
Shady Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 14	The skill "Ruin" says it is a skill that does damage to your target and slashing damage over time. I was guessing it is much like Wound, but there is no icon under maintained, and their is no "YOUR Ruin hits targer for XY" in my battle spam that I see, is this bugged? Also is Shouting Cry, Toughness, and possibly even Taunting challenge broken? Any links appreciated. Thanks all! :smileyvery-happy:

12-02-2004, 11:00 AM	#4
Dekan Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 29	You know what the difference between combat art levels is, right? It wont change the function of the spell, i.e. adding more ticks of dmg or whatnot... It's basically just a modifier to your level. Suppose you're lvl 26 and you use App1 Ruin... your dmg, chance to hit and whatnot is calculated as if you were lvl 25. Use Master1 Ruin and your dmg, chance to hit are calculated as if you were lvl 30... I dont know if itd actually be lvl 30, but thats how it works...

12-02-2004, 02:40 PM	#5
Lightmoog Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15	There is a dot tick it is a long wait, 45 or 60 seconds, i never really counted. But it does about 80 dmg for me. Most of the time, the fights don't last long enough to see it, or i have used ruin again :p.

12-02-2004, 03:32 PM	#6
ThramFalc Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 209	At level 26 with adept 3 the tics do about 114 damage each but they are ridiculously far apart. In a long battle I might get two tics. It never appears to wear off however. I would say the slow tics are a bug and I recommend we ask it be sped up and that a maintained icon be added much like wound.