Armour?

solomani · 12-02-2004, 02:46 AM

So when I hit 20 should I deck myself out in platemail or hold off and do the armour quests first? Or will they be so time consuming I may as well buy some store bought stuff? Thanks.

Swordsm · 12-02-2004, 02:51 AM

better to hit lvl 20 and do quest.

pointless to buy from vendor. AQ is easy so you'll be done fast.

Terribl · 12-02-2004, 03:49 AM

Well, you might as well and go ahead and buy a helmet because you don't get one from the quests. Anyone know what the best helmet for the money is for a level 22 guardian? SMILEY

GenesisForgot · 12-02-2004, 04:07 AM

AQ isn't easy on freeport side, I'd suggest buying a full suit of steel vanguard if you have the cash. You can sell back or to another player when you replace. I also bought a full set of gold jewelry from the vendor until I saved cash for Pristine Fasioned stuff.

solomani · 12-02-2004, 08:46 AM

Thanks for the reply. I am at work right now how much does a full set of plate cost? Aprox? Thanks.

Syraxen · 12-02-2004, 04:13 PM

I would recomend getting armor from either the npc vendor or if your rich and you have an armorsmith on your server, the pristine carb vanguard stuff is excellent, I would especially get a pristing helm since the quest doesnt have one, also dont buy gloves, bracer or boots, since you will get those pretty quicking being that they are the first pieces. The rest though is a must.

Mentin · 12-02-2004, 04:25 PM

If you play 5 hours or so you should be able to mostly complete one AQ in an afternoon. The thing that wil delay your access to the AQ armor is not getting it but rather obtaining enough level to use it. Need 21 for AQ3, 22 for AQ4 and I don't know level for AQ5 and AQ6.

It is really not worth it to buy shop armor just for 5-6 days.

I continued using my old medium stuff until I got/get the AQ stuff, and it works well enough.

But of course.. if you have lots of money why not. Not hat much other stuff to blow money on SMILEY

solomani · 12-02-2004, 04:57 PM

Thanks guys. Your advice is appreciated.

So who starts the armour quest(s) in FP?

GenesisForgot · 12-02-2004, 05:04 PM

Nyric in the bowyer shop in EFP. And no the armor quests in FP aren't that easy and can't be done at level 20 in 5 hours. I'd go ahead and buy all the pieces of Steel Vangaurd minus the gloves / bracers from the shop in EFP (best price) and possibly some good jewelry. Armor is 30-45s per piece, jewelry is 23s/piece. I didn't get the full quest set until level 24 or 25 and all that extra AC helped me out while leveling. Also, once you get into Thundering Stepps money is easy (freeport SUCKs for loot) so spending a few gold here and there is np.I'd try for a Steel Platemail Helm (dropped at pirates in Nektulos) or a pristine fasioned helm. I'd also go for Pristine Fasioned Agate/Gold jewelry eventually. The stats are great.

Isew · 12-03-2004, 06:11 AM

I'm coming up on 20, but can't afford all the pieces. What order are the armour quest pieces available in? That way, I can quest the first few, and then buy the rest.

solomani · 12-03-2004, 08:02 AM

Isewyn wrote:

I'm coming up on 20, but can't afford all the pieces. What order are the armour quest pieces available in? That way, I can quest the first few, and then buy the rest.

Check out the link in this post: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=3&message.id=1156

Gives the order.

Hastur Bloodwa · 12-03-2004, 08:55 AM

Swordsman wrote:
better to hit lvl 20 and do quest.

pointless to buy from vendor. AQ is easy so you'll be done fast.

Swordsman obviously is NOT a Guardian, and has never even attempted an AQ, so ignore him. Trust me, you will not be done fast, AQ3 in particular can be a pain as the zone is so buggy. Get a good group for it, it is the worst of the lot really, in terms of bug related problems and deaths. I also found it useful to buy Vanguard before I started, as it helped to have decent armour to do the quest, but plate would do. Swordsman, go back to Diablo 2, you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Isew · 12-04-2004, 12:34 AM

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm from Qeynos. Thank you for the reply. Is it the same order? This is what the guide says:

20 Gauntlets, Bracers

21 Boots

22 Spaulders

23 Greaves

24 Breastplate

I guess the best thing to do then would be to buy the breastplate and greaves first, then quest for the rest.

Erronn · 12-04-2004, 12:41 AM

Personally, I wanted some extra AC while completing the armor quests, so I purchased shoulders, breastplate, and greaves (vanguard) at level 20, since these are the final 3 pieces from the quests, then sold them back to the vendor for about half the cost. Yes, sacrificed some cash to do so, but felt it was worth it. I seem to recall the most expensive piece (breastplate) was around 50 silver. By the way, buy armor in East Freeport, NOT your suburb (prices in Big Bend were about 50% higher than East Freeport...ouch!)

Also, I'd recommend the Heavy Circlet of the Betrayer that you can receive by doing the Fallen Gate Key Quest. This is wearable at level 14, and maxes out at level 20. (you can find the starting point of this and other fighter/warrior/guardian armor quests on my eq2guardian website in the link in my signature below if you like). At 24, I'm still wearing it...on the lookout for another quest to replace it though...

ArgosyAxeGrind · 12-04-2004, 01:05 AM

Isewyn wrote:

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm from Qeynos. Thank you for the reply. Is it the same order? This is what the guide says:

20 Gauntlets, Bracers

21 Boots

22 Spaulders

23 Greaves

24 Breastplate

I guess the best thing to do then would be to buy the breastplate and greaves first, then quest for the rest.

That's what I did (in addition to a new Ashwood Kite shield), by upgrading my BP, Legs, and Shield, I added almost additional 200AC that I would have not had otherwise (until at least level 24). For about 1.2 gold, the upgrade is well worth it for the damage mitigation until then IMO.

The difference in AC increase for the gloves and boots was not that great (about 20 AC each) for the medium armor I had already in those slots, so I figured I would keep those since they are the first 2/3 items I will receive in my AQs.

Wasuna · 12-04-2004, 03:55 AM

If you just wear your medium armor until you finish your armor quests then please do not post on the threads about how Guardians suck as tanks. Carbonite and steel vanguard have the same AC factors but look different. Steel Vangard is big fluted armor and the Carbonite is the simple bronze looking plate. The most important thing is that heavy armor will have something like a 15-20% higher AC factor over medium. If you the MT then you need that. If your not rich then first just wait for your gloves, bracer and possibly boots and look at the chest, legs and arms and see which would be the biggest AC increase total and get that piece. You can also resell the vendor bought stuff on the broker for about half way between the vendor purchase price and the vendor resale price so its not suh a huge hit to the pocket book, just a cash flow issue while you level.

Basically, unless your in a guild that goes to the different places in a raid for the quest monsters and sits right in front of a group that has been there for 20 minutes killing the mobs your now wiping out (happens all the time even on the RP server) then you will get basically a level per armor piece.

12-02-2004, 02:46 AM	#1
solomani Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	So when I hit 20 should I deck myself out in platemail or hold off and do the armour quests first? Or will they be so time consuming I may as well buy some store bought stuff? Thanks. __________________ ---------------------------- "Oderint Dum Mentuant"

12-02-2004, 08:46 AM	#5
solomani Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	Thanks for the reply. I am at work right now how much does a full set of plate cost? Aprox? Thanks. __________________ ---------------------------- "Oderint Dum Mentuant"

12-02-2004, 04:57 PM	#8
solomani Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	Thanks guys. Your advice is appreciated. So who starts the armour quest(s) in FP? __________________ ---------------------------- "Oderint Dum Mentuant"

12-03-2004, 08:02 AM	#11
solomani Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	Isewyn wrote: I'm coming up on 20, but can't afford all the pieces. What order are the armour quest pieces available in? That way, I can quest the first few, and then buy the rest. Check out the link in this post: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=3&message.id=1156 Gives the order. __________________ ---------------------------- "Oderint Dum Mentuant"

12-03-2004, 08:55 AM	#12
Hastur Bloodwa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 44	Swordsman wrote: better to hit lvl 20 and do quest. pointless to buy from vendor. AQ is easy so you'll be done fast. Swordsman obviously is NOT a Guardian, and has never even attempted an AQ, so ignore him. Trust me, you will not be done fast, AQ3 in particular can be a pain as the zone is so buggy. Get a good group for it, it is the worst of the lot really, in terms of bug related problems and deaths. I also found it useful to buy Vanguard before I started, as it helped to have decent armour to do the quest, but plate would do. Swordsman, go back to Diablo 2, you have no clue as to what you are talking about. __________________ Hastur Bloodwake Recruitment Officer of the Avatars of the Gallant Order Recruitment for AGO is currently Open. Please apply via the website.

12-02-2004, 02:51 AM	#2
Swordsm Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 11	better to hit lvl 20 and do quest. pointless to buy from vendor. AQ is easy so you'll be done fast.

12-02-2004, 03:49 AM	#3
Terribl Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Well, you might as well and go ahead and buy a helmet because you don't get one from the quests. Anyone know what the best helmet for the money is for a level 22 guardian?

12-02-2004, 04:07 AM	#4
GenesisForgot Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 223	AQ isn't easy on freeport side, I'd suggest buying a full suit of steel vanguard if you have the cash. You can sell back or to another player when you replace. I also bought a full set of gold jewelry from the vendor until I saved cash for Pristine Fasioned stuff.

12-02-2004, 04:13 PM	#6
Syraxen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 37	I would recomend getting armor from either the npc vendor or if your rich and you have an armorsmith on your server, the pristine carb vanguard stuff is excellent, I would especially get a pristing helm since the quest doesnt have one, also dont buy gloves, bracer or boots, since you will get those pretty quicking being that they are the first pieces. The rest though is a must.

12-02-2004, 04:25 PM	#7
Mentin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 163	If you play 5 hours or so you should be able to mostly complete one AQ in an afternoon. The thing that wil delay your access to the AQ armor is not getting it but rather obtaining enough level to use it. Need 21 for AQ3, 22 for AQ4 and I don't know level for AQ5 and AQ6. It is really not worth it to buy shop armor just for 5-6 days. I continued using my old medium stuff until I got/get the AQ stuff, and it works well enough. But of course.. if you have lots of money why not. Not hat much other stuff to blow money on

12-02-2004, 05:04 PM	#9
GenesisForgot Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 223	Nyric in the bowyer shop in EFP. And no the armor quests in FP aren't that easy and can't be done at level 20 in 5 hours. I'd go ahead and buy all the pieces of Steel Vangaurd minus the gloves / bracers from the shop in EFP (best price) and possibly some good jewelry. Armor is 30-45s per piece, jewelry is 23s/piece. I didn't get the full quest set until level 24 or 25 and all that extra AC helped me out while leveling. Also, once you get into Thundering Stepps money is easy (freeport SUCKs for loot) so spending a few gold here and there is np.I'd try for a Steel Platemail Helm (dropped at pirates in Nektulos) or a pristine fasioned helm. I'd also go for Pristine Fasioned Agate/Gold jewelry eventually. The stats are great.

12-03-2004, 06:11 AM	#10
Isew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	I'm coming up on 20, but can't afford all the pieces. What order are the armour quest pieces available in? That way, I can quest the first few, and then buy the rest.

12-04-2004, 12:34 AM	#13
Isew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm from Qeynos. Thank you for the reply. Is it the same order? This is what the guide says: 20 Gauntlets, Bracers 21 Boots 22 Spaulders 23 Greaves 24 Breastplate I guess the best thing to do then would be to buy the breastplate and greaves first, then quest for the rest.

12-04-2004, 12:41 AM	#14
Erronn Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 213	Personally, I wanted some extra AC while completing the armor quests, so I purchased shoulders, breastplate, and greaves (vanguard) at level 20, since these are the final 3 pieces from the quests, then sold them back to the vendor for about half the cost. Yes, sacrificed some cash to do so, but felt it was worth it. I seem to recall the most expensive piece (breastplate) was around 50 silver. By the way, buy armor in East Freeport, NOT your suburb (prices in Big Bend were about 50% higher than East Freeport...ouch!) Also, I'd recommend the Heavy Circlet of the Betrayer that you can receive by doing the Fallen Gate Key Quest. This is wearable at level 14, and maxes out at level 20. (you can find the starting point of this and other fighter/warrior/guardian armor quests on my eq2guardian website in the link in my signature below if you like). At 24, I'm still wearing it...on the lookout for another quest to replace it though... __________________

12-04-2004, 01:05 AM	#15
ArgosyAxeGrind Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	Isewyn wrote: Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm from Qeynos. Thank you for the reply. Is it the same order? This is what the guide says: 20 Gauntlets, Bracers 21 Boots 22 Spaulders 23 Greaves 24 Breastplate I guess the best thing to do then would be to buy the breastplate and greaves first, then quest for the rest. That's what I did (in addition to a new Ashwood Kite shield), by upgrading my BP, Legs, and Shield, I added almost additional 200AC that I would have not had otherwise (until at least level 24). For about 1.2 gold, the upgrade is well worth it for the damage mitigation until then IMO. The difference in AC increase for the gloves and boots was not that great (about 20 AC each) for the medium armor I had already in those slots, so I figured I would keep those since they are the first 2/3 items I will receive in my AQs.

12-04-2004, 03:55 AM	#16
Wasuna Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,222	If you just wear your medium armor until you finish your armor quests then please do not post on the threads about how Guardians suck as tanks. Carbonite and steel vanguard have the same AC factors but look different. Steel Vangard is big fluted armor and the Carbonite is the simple bronze looking plate. The most important thing is that heavy armor will have something like a 15-20% higher AC factor over medium. If you the MT then you need that. If your not rich then first just wait for your gloves, bracer and possibly boots and look at the chest, legs and arms and see which would be the biggest AC increase total and get that piece. You can also resell the vendor bought stuff on the broker for about half way between the vendor purchase price and the vendor resale price so its not suh a huge hit to the pocket book, just a cash flow issue while you level. Basically, unless your in a guild that goes to the different places in a raid for the quest monsters and sits right in front of a group that has been there for 20 minutes killing the mobs your now wiping out (happens all the time even on the RP server) then you will get basically a level per armor piece. __________________ The definition of Crazy is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.