Dont just remove the brawler mid stance and replace it with nothing

BChizzle · 06-26-2012, 10:00 PM

For years devs have said the reason brawlers don't have a group buff is because they have that extra stance. If you are going to remove our mid stance then replace it with a group buff please.

Vinyard · 06-26-2012, 10:09 PM

Monks have a group buff.

Landiin · 06-26-2012, 10:21 PM

About like rangers...

BChizzle · 06-26-2012, 10:42 PM

Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Monks have a group buff.

No they dont.

Drumstix · 06-26-2012, 11:12 PM

The point was taking away the mid stance and giving Recklessness to all the fighters.

BChizzle · 06-26-2012, 11:26 PM

Drumstixx@Blackburrow wrote:

The point was taking away the mid stance and giving Recklessness to all the fighters.

All fighters get recklessness only brawlers had something removed. It need to be changed to a buff rather than being just removed. Look at all the plat and time we all spent getting it mastered you can't just remove something and not give something in return.

Corydonn · 06-26-2012, 11:53 PM

Group power regen please.

Vinyard · 06-26-2012, 11:54 PM

BChizzle wrote:

Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Monks have a group buff.
No they dont.

http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII

Silzin · 06-27-2012, 12:06 AM

Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:

BChizzle wrote:
Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Monks have a group buff.
No they dont.
http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII

that is what is very commonly called a "raid wide buff", not a "group buff".

BChizzle · 06-27-2012, 02:19 AM

Silzin@Crushbone wrote:

Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:
BChizzle wrote:
Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Monks have a group buff.
No they dont.
http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII
that is what is very commonly called a "raid wide buff", not a "group buff".

It is probably too hard of a conecpt for him.

Vinyard all plate tanks have both a raidwide as well as a group buff. Brawler tanks were never given a group buff because we had an extra stance in our mid stance which really was slightly underused and useless (till recently it actually was useful on fiery feedback mobs.) Since our midstance is being removed we should now get a group buff like all other tanks.

My suggestion is since we are getting screwed over for mit that brawlers get a 2k group physical mit buff. If it is in fact Xelgads intention that since brawlers can reach plate mit levels strikethrough is being removed then this will help them actually reach plate tank mit levels as well as provide some group utility.

Xaxtionlorex · 06-27-2012, 02:29 AM

You should have to choice between 90% avoidence, caped block with out a shield, and plate mit, can't have all three.

BChizzle · 06-27-2012, 02:52 AM

Xaxtionlorex wrote:

You should have to choice between 90% avoidence, caped block with out a shield, and plate mit, can't have all three.

The highest possible avoidance is 70 dodge * 70 parry * 70 block which would equal 85.3 avoidance. No tank can even come close to that including brawlers. People like you who claim this garbage don't have a clue about this game and really show their lack of knowledge.

If you see a tank (and I say tank not brawler) with higher numbers that that then it was because buffs put on them and temps that are available to all classes.

06-26-2012, 10:21 PM	#3
Landiin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,749	About like rangers... __________________

06-26-2012, 10:42 PM	#4
BChizzle Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,095	Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: Monks have a group buff. No they dont.

06-26-2012, 11:12 PM	#5
Drumstix Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 355	The point was taking away the mid stance and giving Recklessness to all the fighters. __________________ ___________________________ [DrumsUI] author @ EQ2Interface.com

06-26-2012, 11:26 PM	#6
BChizzle Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,095	Drumstixx@Blackburrow wrote: The point was taking away the mid stance and giving Recklessness to all the fighters. All fighters get recklessness only brawlers had something removed. It need to be changed to a buff rather than being just removed. Look at all the plat and time we all spent getting it mastered you can't just remove something and not give something in return.

06-26-2012, 11:54 PM	#8
Vinyard Server: Antonia Bayle Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 690	BChizzle wrote: Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: Monks have a group buff. No they dont. http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII

06-26-2012, 10:00 PM	#1
BChizzle Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,095	For years devs have said the reason brawlers don't have a group buff is because they have that extra stance. If you are going to remove our mid stance then replace it with a group buff please.

06-26-2012, 10:09 PM	#2
Vinyard Server: Antonia Bayle Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 690	Monks have a group buff.

06-26-2012, 11:53 PM	#7
Corydonn Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 744	Group power regen please.

06-27-2012, 12:06 AM	#9
Silzin Server: Crushbone Guild: Revelations Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 537	Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: BChizzle wrote: Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: Monks have a group buff. No they dont. http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII that is what is very commonly called a "raid wide buff", not a "group buff". __________________

06-27-2012, 02:19 AM	#10
BChizzle Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,095	Silzin@Crushbone wrote: Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: BChizzle wrote: Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: Monks have a group buff. No they dont. http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII that is what is very commonly called a "raid wide buff", not a "group buff". It is probably too hard of a conecpt for him. Vinyard all plate tanks have both a raidwide as well as a group buff. Brawler tanks were never given a group buff because we had an extra stance in our mid stance which really was slightly underused and useless (till recently it actually was useful on fiery feedback mobs.) Since our midstance is being removed we should now get a group buff like all other tanks. My suggestion is since we are getting screwed over for mit that brawlers get a 2k group physical mit buff. If it is in fact Xelgads intention that since brawlers can reach plate mit levels strikethrough is being removed then this will help them actually reach plate tank mit levels as well as provide some group utility.

06-27-2012, 02:29 AM	#11
Xaxtionlorex Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 110	You should have to choice between 90% avoidence, caped block with out a shield, and plate mit, can't have all three.

06-27-2012, 02:52 AM	#12
BChizzle Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,095	Xaxtionlorex wrote: You should have to choice between 90% avoidence, caped block with out a shield, and plate mit, can't have all three. The highest possible avoidance is 70 dodge * 70 parry * 70 block which would equal 85.3 avoidance. No tank can even come close to that including brawlers. People like you who claim this garbage don't have a clue about this game and really show their lack of knowledge. If you see a tank (and I say tank not brawler) with higher numbers that that then it was because buffs put on them and temps that are available to all classes.