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Unread 01-08-2012, 08:30 PM   #1
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The topic says it all. Its sucks and SOE should be ashamed to deliver such a crap quality to us.

Unplayable Zones, stutter stutter stutter........

We have 3 good computers in our family, on all 3 these two zones are unplayable.

Its sucks, yes honestly it really sucks to find more and more bugs in this game everyday after our long break from EQ2.....

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Unread 01-08-2012, 08:43 PM   #2
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Axyrem wrote:

The topic says it all. Its sucks and SOE should be ashamed to deliver such a crap quality to us.

Unplayable Zones, stutter stutter stutter........

We have 3 good computers in our family, on all 3 these two zones are unplayable.

Its sucks, yes honestly it really sucks to find more and more bugs in this game everyday after our long break from EQ2.....

Just for the sake of the argument try closing the launcher, alt-tab out after you start the game. It may work, it may not... but it's an easy check and won't hurt to try it.

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Unread 01-08-2012, 09:17 PM   #3
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Axyrem wrote:

The topic says it all. Its sucks and SOE should be ashamed to deliver such a crap quality to us.

Unplayable Zones, stutter stutter stutter........

We have 3 good computers in our family, on all 3 these two zones are unplayable.

Its sucks, yes honestly it really sucks to find more and more bugs in this game everyday after our long break from EQ2.....

Just for the sake of the argument try closing the launcher, alt-tab out after you start the game. It may work, it may not... but it's an easy check and won't hurt to try it.

i am running everquest.exe directly. no launcher, thats the better solution anyways....

in one of 10 ALT-TAB´s it possibly works for a few minutes....

Just as reminder Jarsath and almost all Kunark works smooth with stable 50-60 FPS ...

Its the game, not the Launcher and not anything else. Its simply bugged game code.... EQ2´s engine is so old that no developer has enough will to fix the leaks. i think i can understand that somehow, if EQ2 wouldnt make millions of $$$$$ every month.

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Unread 01-08-2012, 09:22 PM   #4
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Try reducing your resolution. I have a quad with 8 gigs of ram and top of the line card, and I find I have to reduce my resolution to avoid the lags and stutters. Stepping down one notch on resolution does not ruin the game quality I found, but increase my performance.

The other quick fix to try, is in your options section, make sure shadows are set to GPU reliant not CPU -- it makes a huge difference in performance. (Unless that was the thing they removed recently, don't think it is .. when I tried it, major difference for me).

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Unread 01-08-2012, 09:31 PM   #5
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This seems hit or miss. My wife can hardly play in Ykesha due to lag, but I can play fine everywhere except near where the Greenmist guys are. Her comp is slightly better than the one I use for EQ2 and they have the same graphics cards with most of the settings being nearly identical. It isn't a new thing either, it's been this way for a while. /shrug

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Unread 01-08-2012, 10:06 PM   #6
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daalberith wrote:

This seems hit or miss. My wife can hardly play in Ykesha due to lag, but I can play fine everywhere except near where the Greenmist guys are. Her comp is slightly better than the one I use for EQ2 and they have the same graphics cards with most of the settings being nearly identical. It isn't a new thing either, it's been this way for a while. /shrug

It's something in your settings then I'd wager .. you two should open up your options and go through each setting, one by one, to see what you have different.

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Unread 01-08-2012, 10:19 PM   #7
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KJ is fine, i get no leaks at all there.

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Unread 01-08-2012, 10:25 PM   #8
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KJ stutters for me when I revive there. It does it on two different pc's. After I revive and then move I drop to 2-4 fps. If I wait 30-60secs and try to move again it will stutter and then the frame rate will jump back to normal until I die again.

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Unread 01-08-2012, 11:00 PM   #9
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These zones are the worst performing and have been this way ever since they were brought to the game. No idea why, but it's terrible. 

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Unread 01-08-2012, 11:04 PM   #10
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NrthnStar5 wrote:

These zones are the worst performing and have been this way ever since they were brought to the game. No idea why, but it's terrible. 

Paineel used to be worse, I then upgraded my PC to a CPU from this century.

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Unread 01-08-2012, 11:19 PM   #11
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Oh I think Tim Deep wins "worst zone ever" award hands down -- given so many people get stuck there and cannot log their toons back in.

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Unread 01-09-2012, 02:43 AM   #12
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I have always had trouble with KJ and Moors.  What I find helpful: turn off flora, shadows to GPU (as a previous poster mentioned), and a reduction in texture quality.  Also, if all else fails I turn off particles completely. 

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Unread 01-09-2012, 06:14 AM   #13
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Axyrem wrote:

The topic says it all. Its sucks and SOE should be ashamed to deliver such a crap quality to us.

Unplayable Zones, stutter stutter stutter........

We have 3 good computers in our family, on all 3 these two zones are unplayable.

Its sucks, yes honestly it really sucks to find more and more bugs in this game everyday after our long break from EQ2.....

Well, welcome to the  new direction of the game where bugs don't matter, quality doesn't matter. What matters is tat you get your wallet out and pay for something in the market place.

Hey look, my zone crashed but take a look at that awesome fish in the SC ! I must have that  !

Oh and believe or not, there are a couple idiots on this forum who actually support this model.

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Unread 01-09-2012, 08:18 AM   #14
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Interesting post since when i claimed that bad performance was a major issue, may be the Major issue, i got a hord of fanatic replying that my PC as not good enough. We all know that even on a top computer, areas designed to be run on computers from 2006 dove have perfomance issues.

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Unread 01-09-2012, 09:33 AM   #15
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Axyrem wrote:

The topic says it all. Its sucks and SOE should be ashamed to deliver such a crap quality to us.

Unplayable Zones, stutter stutter stutter........

We have 3 good computers in our family, on all 3 these two zones are unplayable.

Its sucks, yes honestly it really sucks to find more and more bugs in this game everyday after our long break from EQ2.....

could the problem be on your end by any chance? just because me and the guild are in these zones quite abit questing/killing/running around and we havnt had that many problems. yeah i mean the zone in is abit slow for us but genrally these zones work fine. i would suggest you delete your cache files, re full scan on launcher then try again (and yes i do have the memory leak issues, but for me its not as bad)

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Unread 01-09-2012, 10:06 AM   #16
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Gorock@Storms wrote:

Interesting post since when i claimed that bad performance was a major issue, may be the Major issue, i got a hord of fanatic replying that my PC as not good enough. We all know that even on a top computer, areas designed to be run on computers from 2006 dove have perfomance issues.

No one is saying there are no problems and from what I see so far , apart from a couple of people who can't really understand anything ( like Raf for example ), people do want the issues to be fixed BEFORE anything else useless gets done , such as FP revamp for example or more SC items ... There are far more pressing things which should be top priority and they're not ...

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Unread 01-09-2012, 10:47 AM   #17
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Mrrshan@Runnyeye wrote:

Gorock@Storms wrote:

Interesting post since when i claimed that bad performance was a major issue, may be the Major issue, i got a hord of fanatic replying that my PC as not good enough. We all know that even on a top computer, areas designed to be run on computers from 2006 dove have perfomance issues.

No one is saying there are no problems and from what I see so far , apart from a couple of people who can't really understand anything ( like Raf for example ), people do want the issues to be fixed BEFORE anything else useless gets done , such as FP revamp for example or more SC items ... There are far more pressing things which should be top priority and they're not ...

Hard to disagree with you.

I yearn for the days before AOD when there was very little lag in the game

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Unread 01-09-2012, 11:49 AM   #18
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To the OP, you may want to give some more information about your system.  The TSR's start there when troubleshooting.  I usually do not have much lag in those zones myself unless there are close to 100 people in the zone and then it is only in the local area of where they are.

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Unread 01-09-2012, 11:56 AM   #19
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to make one thing clear.

I am network administrator for a huge worldwide IT-company, i built hundreds of PCs in the past years, i know "almost" everything about Windows 95 up to X64 Win7, otimizing, tweaking the registry manually. My son is building and selling optimized PC´s for Music Studios, Graphic designers, Engineers,  hardcore gamers and standard customers.

I can 100% asure you all that the problem isnt our Hardware.

8-16GB DDR3-RAM Kingston (not OC´d)

60-120GB SSD´s OCZ vertex (latest FM´s)

1TB-3TB HDD´s Seagate, Samsung

Asus/Gigabyte /MSI boards P35 - z68 (latest drivers etc etc)

All PCs Intel Quad Cores Q6600 to core I7 (power:high performance, OC disabled, poweroptions disabled)

Nvidia GTX cards many drivers tested 2009-2012

Win 7 ultimate x32 & X64

Logitech Mouse/keyboards

3 computers, all with the same problems ? Skyrim runs awesome, Gothic runs awesome, RIFT runs awesome... Honestly everything runs awesome on these 3 computers but EVERQUEST 2....

Only EQ2 doesnt function well and i bet that if i install EQ2 on 200 other PCs the most wont function well either...... because its the Grafic Engine and the Memory Management of Everquest 2.

I just hope some of the responsible developers reads this and understands that not all customers are dumb enough to believe their computers are to old, slow or bad configured.

Its EQ2 and nothing else.... period

p.s we tried installing EQ2 on SSD, it loads faster but the stutter problems do not dissapear. We tested different NVidia drivers from 2009 until todays latest. There arent any backround process´s running. All PCs are optimized for single Applications, even the CPU affinity has been set the way that EQ2 has its own Cores which works and give better and more stable FPS but the sudden stutter FPS drop always happen.

as Example : In Moors of Ykesha just go east from the center camp to the hill with the Temple where the walls are.there is the worst FPS drop. Doing quests up there is horror. 

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Unread 01-09-2012, 01:54 PM   #20
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I can't even play in kunark zones for an hour before eq2 locks up and just closes with no error message. Lots of stuttering and lag in these zones for me. I do not experience this issue in other zones I have been in so far while leveling up to 73.

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Unread 01-09-2012, 02:39 PM   #21
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Axyrem wrote:

to make one thing clear.

I am network administrator for a huge worldwide IT-company, i built hundreds of PCs in the past years, i know "almost" everything about Windows 95 up to X64 Win7, otimizing, tweaking the registry manually. My son is building and selling optimized PC´s for Music Studios, Graphic designers, Engineers,  hardcore gamers and standard customers.

I can 100% asure you all that the problem isnt our Hardware.

8-16GB DDR3-RAM Kingston (not OC´d)

60-120GB SSD´s OCZ vertex (latest FM´s)

1TB-3TB HDD´s Seagate, Samsung

Asus/Gigabyte /MSI boards P35 - z68 (latest drivers etc etc)

All PCs Intel Quad Cores Q6600 to core I7 (power:high performance, OC disabled, poweroptions disabled)

Nvidia GTX cards many drivers tested 2009-2012

Win 7 ultimate x32 & X64

Logitech Mouse/keyboards

3 computers, all with the same problems ? Skyrim runs awesome, Gothic runs awesome, RIFT runs awesome... Honestly everything runs awesome on these 3 computers but EVERQUEST 2....

Only EQ2 doesnt function well and i bet that if i install EQ2 on 200 other PCs the most wont function well either...... because its the Grafic Engine and the Memory Management of Everquest 2.

I just hope some of the responsible developers reads this and understands that not all customers are dumb enough to believe their computers are to old, slow or bad configured.

Its EQ2 and nothing else.... period

p.s we tried installing EQ2 on SSD, it loads faster but the stutter problems do not dissapear. We tested different NVidia drivers from 2009 until todays latest. There arent any backround process´s running. All PCs are optimized for single Applications, even the CPU affinity has been set the way that EQ2 has its own Cores which works and give better and more stable FPS but the sudden stutter FPS drop always happen.

as Example : In Moors of Ykesha just go east from the center camp to the hill with the Temple where the walls are.there is the worst FPS drop. Doing quests up there is horror.

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I cant get over how many issues EQ2 is having....crashing, missing icons for quests, tunnels that looses walls if you look west, more crashing, graphic shadow anomolies, mobs that freeze when you get close because they dont have an animation of "cringe", more crashing....just wish they would fix it for once and be done.

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Unread 01-09-2012, 05:43 PM   #22
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Please contact our support staff directly as these must be addressed on a case by case basis.  

Locking this thread up and all general threads on the topic.  You are more than welcome to post your DXDIAG information in your own thread if you would like me to assist you directly, again the intent is a case by case basis.  

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