Subscription Rewards for EverQuest II

[Kiara]

Did you know that multi-month subscription reward packages were recently introduced for the EQII Live servers?

Buy more, save more! We're proud to announce an all-new subscription rewards program that really provides a bang for your buck. Purchase multi-month subscriptions and qualify to receive price discounts, exclusive in-game items and even Station Cash.

Read more.

[vexrm]

Kiara wrote:

Did you know that multi-month subscription reward packages were recently introduced for the EQII Live servers?

Buy more, save more! We're proud to announce an all-new subscription rewards program that really provides a bang for your buck. Purchase multi-month subscriptions and qualify to receive price discounts, exclusive in-game items and even Station Cash.

Read more.

Hey Kiara the webpage news release is wrong. It lists out six months twice rather then six months and then 12 months.

[Kiara]

When Amnerys gets back from Dragon*Con and can confirm that, we'll get it changed

[Sinea]

I'm curious if you have the station access how you could apply or incorporate the subscription rewards if you purchased up front?

[NamaeZero]

Sinea wrote:

I'm curious if you have the station access how you could apply or incorporate the subscription rewards if you purchased up front?

Once you have your account in Station Access mode, it won't allow you to purchase the multi-month plans.

What you can do is cancel your recurring Station Access. Allow it to expire, then on that day you can sign up for the monthly plans and get the rewards. Then upgrade back to Station Access. You will have to do this whenever you want to to get access to the rewards. It is a major pain, but I don't know of any other way to do it. Hope this helps!

[Kamimura]

Sad to see that the items are only one per account, rather than one per character... :/

[Dethdlr]

Kiara wrote:

When Amnerys gets back from Dragon*Con and can confirm that, we'll get it changed

lol.  You're kidding, right?  This is what the news item says:

With the 3 Month subscription, receive a Cloak of the Storm.

With the 6 Month subscription, receive a Cloak of the Storm and the Nizaran Assassin Armor Crate.

With the 6 Month subscription, receive a Cloak of the Storm and the Nizaran Assassin Armor Crate, Steed of the Blazing Sun, and 500 Station Cash.

Then when you click on the link at the bottom that says Multi-Month Subscription Reward Packages, it shows the rewards for 12 month subscriptions to be exactly what the last one in the news article says.  

It's obviously a typo.  Copy the 6 month line, add ", Steed of the Blazing Sun, and 500 Station Cash", post article.  Oops.  Forgot to change 6 to 12 for the last line.  

But if you want the news article to look silly until Amnerys gets back, that's obviously your call.  But you gotta know, it's a typo, right?  

[Eryn Bo'beryn]

Is it just me or are none of those pages actually showing you the details of the reward items?  Like the mount speed, any stats, etc.

[NamaeZero]

The speed of the Mount is 70%, and it has 2% potency. No featherfall.

The Cloak has both passive Featherfall and a clickable Growth effect that increases your size 34.1%

The Armor crate has no stats at all, and is the usual Appearance-only flags.

Every item is both Attuneable and Heirloom.

[Cloudrat]

NamaeZero wrote:

Sinea wrote:

I'm curious if you have the station access how you could apply or incorporate the subscription rewards if you purchased up front?

Once you have your account in Station Access mode, it won't allow you to purchase the multi-month plans.

What you can do is cancel your recurring Station Access. Allow it to expire, then on that day you can sign up for the monthly plans and get the rewards. Then upgrade back to Station Access. You will have to do this whenever you want to to get access to the rewards. It is a major pain, but I don't know of any other way to do it. Hope this helps!

This is more than a pain it's a slap in the face to the people who pay the most to play. Station Access should have a multi-month payment plan as well. Someone needs to start rattling cages higher up the food chain

[Ariellia]

Hi Kiara! A question: My husband and I both already subscribeD to the EQ2 yearly subscription plan before this was announced. Is there any way we will be able to get access to these cool rewards? Are will we have to wait until next year?

[TheSpin]

Aeyri, from what I understand, they should be retroactive. see if you can /claim them already

[Enica]

Cloudrat wrote:

NamaeZero wrote:

Sinea wrote:

I'm curious if you have the station access how you could apply or incorporate the subscription rewards if you purchased up front?

Once you have your account in Station Access mode, it won't allow you to purchase the multi-month plans.

What you can do is cancel your recurring Station Access. Allow it to expire, then on that day you can sign up for the monthly plans and get the rewards. Then upgrade back to Station Access. You will have to do this whenever you want to to get access to the rewards. It is a major pain, but I don't know of any other way to do it. Hope this helps!

This is more than a pain it's a slap in the face to the people who pay the most to play. Station Access should have a multi-month payment plan as well. Someone needs to start rattling cages higher up the food chain

This.  I really don't feel like jumping through hoops.

[NamaeZero]

Enica@Blackburrow wrote:

Cloudrat wrote:

NamaeZero wrote:

Sinea wrote:

I'm curious if you have the station access how you could apply or incorporate the subscription rewards if you purchased up front?

Once you have your account in Station Access mode, it won't allow you to purchase the multi-month plans.

What you can do is cancel your recurring Station Access. Allow it to expire, then on that day you can sign up for the monthly plans and get the rewards. Then upgrade back to Station Access. You will have to do this whenever you want to to get access to the rewards. It is a major pain, but I don't know of any other way to do it. Hope this helps!

This is more than a pain it's a slap in the face to the people who pay the most to play. Station Access should have a multi-month payment plan as well. Someone needs to start rattling cages higher up the food chain

This.  I really don't feel like jumping through hoops.

Don't hold your breath on this changing anytime soon...

*source link*

Amnerys wrote:

Gaige wrote:

Didn't Smokejumper say it took three devs two weeks to implement EQ2x, yet it'll take a year to make SA multi-month?

This isn't something that the dev team does. It's all back-end, which involves the infamous Platform team. Right now I can imagine that their to-do queue is over two years long, and every time something new gets added to the mix, they have to shuffle and rearrange, including the launches of new games, individual game updates, and all of the back-end support for everything in the company.

I'm happy to pass your concerns on up the chain.

The people that can fufill your wish, i.e. the Platform team... They live back in the Kunark era as far as development time goes. That's more than two Lead Developers ago.

Personal opinion here: The value of Station access dropped out a long time ago. You used to get a lot of free perks (EQ2 Players, Adventure Packs,) but now everyone gets them. SA is only worthwhile if you play other Station games. If not, you're better off buying another account and having 2 total more character slots and multi-month rewards for a monthly fee that's actually slightly less depending on what multi-month package you use.

The death knell of SA will be on the day they allow linking accounts, which is why I don't think they will do that anytime soon, either.

[Cloudrat]

NamaeZero wrote:

Personal opinion here: The value of Station access dropped out a long time ago. You used to get a lot of free perks (EQ2 Players, Adventure Packs,) but now everyone gets them. SA is only worthwhile if you play other Station games. If not, you're better off buying another account and having 2 total more character slots and multi-month rewards for a monthly fee that's actually slightly less depending on what multi-month package you use.

The death knell of SA will be on the day they allow linking accounts, which is why I don't think they will do that anytime soon, either.

Nice of you to decide what is valued lol All those slots are also 6 year vets which, if they were moved onto a new account

to get even more slots to skip the SA, they would lose. Playing on the test server means they can't be moved anyway or be copied to extended. Your logic is flawed but, that being said now that I have lost vanguard test toons and housing it's looking less desirable so now comes the time to decide which toons to say goodbye.

[NamaeZero]

Cloudrat wrote:

NamaeZero wrote:

Personal opinion here: The value of Station access dropped out a long time ago. You used to get a lot of free perks (EQ2 Players, Adventure Packs,) but now everyone gets them. SA is only worthwhile if you play other Station games. If not, you're better off buying another account and having 2 total more character slots and multi-month rewards for a monthly fee that's actually slightly less depending on what multi-month package you use.

The death knell of SA will be on the day they allow linking accounts, which is why I don't think they will do that anytime soon, either.

Nice of you to decide what is valued lol All those slots are also 6 year vets which, if they were moved onto a new account

to get even more slots to skip the SA, they would lose. Playing on the test server means they can't be moved anyway or be copied to extended. Your logic is flawed but, that being said now that I have lost vanguard test toons and housing it's looking less desirable so now comes the time to decide which toons to say goodbye.

You wouldn't lose any veteran rewards you had already claimed. You would lose access to getting any in the future, of course.

And I meant Station Access viewed as a whole. Of course any of the #8-12 characters you created will have value to you. That doesn't mean SA itself is worthwhile. You would have been better off starting those character on another account, given that you knew SOE would be scaling benefits this way. Is that a better way to put it?

[Midoriko]

So those of us who have been paying for, say station access for years get nothing? And I can't get the mount without canceling a month, paying for a year regular subscription, losing a pile of characters in that process. Then upgrade BACK thereby paying, still more, than everyone else?

Sad panda SOE.

[abbneer]

How about a subscription pack or somthing for us that have more than one account?

[Anastasie]

Where are the extra character slots for multi-month subscriptions?

The platinum account has 10 slots, so the yearly account should have the same (the fluff items are just that and are in no way equitable with the platinum account).  You should also give 9 slots to the 6 mo. sub and 8 slots to the 3 month.    Any extra slots wanted above and beyond that could be purchased individually on the marketplace (for a reasonable amount).

[Sola]

Kiara wrote:

Did you know that multi-month subscription reward packages were recently introduced for the EQII Live servers?

Buy more, save more! We're proud to announce an all-new subscription rewards program that really provides a bang for your buck. Purchase multi-month subscriptions and qualify to receive price discounts, exclusive in-game items and even Station Cash.

Read more.

This is great!!!  I prefer to purchase the longer subscription packages even though I don't play EQ2 as much.  It provides cost savings and something keeps me coming back for more even with all my gripes and complaints.

However, I do have to agree with those who have shown upset about Station Access.  I have an EQ1 account that I would dabble with if SA had savings plans for those of us who prefer to buy longer term access plans at a reduced rate.  It would be nice to see those who pay for SA get some love and it would also draw those like me back to Station Access.

[Kunaak]

are these rewards retroactive?

I already use the 6 month payments for my accounts, even before these rewards, I alway paid well in advance since I personally dont care for monthly payments.

[Cyliena]

Kunaak wrote:

are these rewards retroactive?

I already use the 6 month payments for my accounts, even before these rewards, I alway paid well in advance since I personally dont care for monthly payments.

Yes, they should be in your /claim.

[MyleeSilverwings]

I have been playing EQ games since 2000.  In all those 10 years, I haven't posted on the forums a great deal, and when I did, it was to compliment and thank SOE for doing something great, or helping other players with advice.

However, in the last month, my feathers have been ruffled ... and all due to my Station Access account.

First, there was the nightmare that transpired when I tried out EQ2x ... where I lost all my expansions, all my rewards, and five characters.  That was finally fixed after 3 days due to the tremendous help of the devs who do read these forums and responded. 

Then, I heard about the "platinum package" being offered to EQ2x players.  3 extra character slots, free expansions, free station cash.  All for $260/year LESS than I pay for Station Access??????

And NOW we have even MORE goodies and deep discounts offered to the Live subscribers????

Hence, the following rant:

This is so screwed! I have played EQ2Live since launch day, 2004. I have had a Station Access account for 5 years. People with regular live accounts are now getting SUBSTANTIAL DISCOUNTS for paying months in advance. SA people don’t get this option. Nor do we get expansions free, or anything else for that matter except 5 character slots and access to dying games that nobody plays anymore.

I am a crafter, as well as an adventurer.  That is what makes the game magic for me.  I have all 9 tradeskillers maxed to 90, and 3 adventurers at 90 as well.  So, who do I delete to get rid of the NO VALUE Station access account and obtain the "perks" offered to EQ2Ex and EQ2LIVE subscribers? Obviously, this is not an option for me IF I am to continue playing this game the way I have worked so hard to play it.

I am also not going to pay the fees to transfer characters to a second account. I would lose all the future veteran rewards on the second account, as well as the inability to use heirloom items between my 12 characters.

Where is the love for all the loyal Station Access people who have kept this game going for SOE??? Smokejumper says there will be no new/additional perks at all for SA account holders and yet they throw all this good stuff at new players and Live players?  

I’m sorry, I just don’t get this incredibly ugly slap in the face!

/rant off

[vexrm]

So, the typo STILL hasn't been fixed.

At this point I'm tempted to demand the six months get the horse.

For those who are angry about the station access not getting rewards:

Kiara locked the other thread about it and said that these forums are not the place to discuss such things so a thread over at The Station boards was open and ignored on it. Here's the link.

http://forums.station.sony.com/stat..._id=11500017852

[Amnerys]

Good morning everyone! Back in the office today and my first order of business is fixing that typo. It should be updated momentarily.

My apologies for the confusion. That's what happens when you try to do four days worth of work in one day, and all the proofreaders have gone home because it's 10pm, but you just have to finish up these last articles to leave for posting in your absence. Ooops!!

And for those who already had  multi-month subs -- yes, the rewards are retroactive. You should be able to do a /claim and find the corresponding rewards in your list.

We also know folks are unhappy about the lack of similar rewards for Station Access accounts. It's something that is being looked at, but it's going to take some time. We do truly appreciate your loyalty and your business.

[vexrm]

Amnerys wrote:

Good morning everyone! Back in the office today and my first order of business is fixing that typo. It should be updated momentarily.

My apologies for the confusion. That's what happens when you try to do four days worth of work in one day, and all the proofreaders have gone home because it's 10pm, but you just have to finish up these last articles to leave for posting in your absence. Ooops!!

And for those who already had  multi-month subs -- yes, the rewards are retroactive. You should be able to do a /claim and find the corresponding rewards in your list.

We also know folks are unhappy about the lack of similar rewards for Station Access accounts. It's something that is being looked at, but it's going to take some time. We do truly appreciate your loyalty and your business.

Are you saying we can discuss the Station Access not getting rewards on the EQ2 Boards?

[MyleeSilverwings]

Thank you Amnerys.  EQ/SOE has been part of my life for so many years and I don't want to leave.  But, this is not only about  principle, it is about my hard-earned dollars and value in return for those dollars.

This gives me hope, and I am more than willing to allow you the time you need to equitably resolve this blatant discrimination!  Thank you for letting us know that at least we are being listened to!

[Midoriko]

Sounds like I'm in the same boat as Tika.

I have station acess because I've been an EQ/EQ2 player for years. I want that access to the other games. Though admittedly now it is mostly about having the extra character slots since I've more or less settled into only playing what I've considered to be the best MMO. With all of the crafters at 90, six 90 adventurers and two over 80...I'm not inclined to lose them! I have run two, thats right TWO station access accounts at a time, though I've let the other one go with time/money and not wanting to dual box.

I adore that mount. The armor is pretty sweet as well. Would've preferred vet rewards if they were going to be retroactive. Or put on the marketplace even. But no, EXCLUSIVE rewards for new players that pay for a year in advance. There's that whole feeling screwed for being a veteran with the new system. Idealy this would've been, yknow content we could've worked for in game! But the pretties now all go to the item mall...

Guess it's time to cancel this account, buy a new one and start over for all the snazzy stuff!

I feel as though I'm being punished for money I've already spent on SOE, mainly EQ2. Reasons being, the rewards were made retroactive. Which means that even if you've been paying for years, you paid more, and got nothing. Which doesn't make sense to me. Then there's the complete lack of acknowledgement for station access accounts. I am just shocked they didn't think of us beforehand or think that, oh yeah, that might make them unhappy.

I have been on their side being understanding and patient for years. I feel completely shafted here and with the last GU. :/

[Chiyoiche]

Payaz@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Sounds like I'm in the same boat as Tika.

I have station acess because I've been an EQ/EQ2 player for years. I want that access to the other games. Though admittedly now it is mostly about having the extra character slots since I've more or less settled into only playing what I've considered to be the best MMO. With all of the crafters at 90, six 90 adventurers and two over 80...I'm not inclined to lose them! I have run two, thats right TWO station access accounts at a time, though I've let the other one go with time/money and not wanting to dual box.

I adore that mount. The armor is pretty sweet as well. Would've preferred vet rewards if they were going to be retroactive. Or put on the marketplace even. But no, EXCLUSIVE rewards for new players that pay for a year in advance. There's that whole feeling screwed for being a veteran with the new system. Idealy this would've been, yknow content we could've worked for in game! But the pretties now all go to the item mall...

Guess it's time to cancel this account, buy a new one and start over for all the snazzy stuff!

I feel as though I'm being punished for money I've already spent on SOE, mainly EQ2. Reasons being, the rewards were made retroactive. Which means that even if you've been paying for years, you paid more, and got nothing. Which doesn't make sense to me. Then there's the complete lack of acknowledgement for station access accounts. I am just shocked they didn't think of us beforehand or think that, oh yeah, that might make them unhappy.

I have been on their side being understanding and patient for years. I feel completely shafted here and with the last GU. :/

yep. i feel the same too...i dont understand, how, EVERYONE else, (eq2x,and now the normal subs) got this so quicky...but nothing for SA accounts? im not going to cancle, just to resub, for a multi month deal either! i do not see why they are literaly FORCING multi momth subs to get rewards. when paying monthly(continuously for YEARS, i might add!) still have nothing, aside from the vet rewards...wich everyone gets, in time. here is my suggestion for SA/other live users. Do the rewards like VET rewards. IE:to get the 6 mos rewards, account MUST have been ACTIVE for 6 mos strait, the 1 yr rewards, one year active and so on...at least give us, that dont/cant pay that much up front a decent CHANCE for these rewards too....Please? ive had SA for years, and only use it for the extra slots. and if the person STOPS subbing to SA, ect, then they no longer get the SA rewards. just my opinion...and plea...

[Sola]

Amnerys wrote:

We also know folks are unhappy about the lack of similar rewards for Station Access accounts. It's something that is being looked at, but it's going to take some time. We do truly appreciate your loyalty and your business.

Thanks Amnerys.  Station Access has been needing some love for a long time.  I've only tried it once, but I just couldn't justify the extra cost since I only dabble on EQ1 from time to time (miss the 1st person point of view, necro kiting, etc...).

Anyhow, a word of caution to management in regards to how you treat your existing player base.  I know you are being pressured hard to draw in new money and people.  However, DON'T forget the oil that keeps the engine running.  Veterans are your bread and butter.  If you forget that, then remember the fall of SWG's player base and ultimately income.

I can not stress this enough!  If you lose your vets in pursuit of new money than you're going to lose the whole ship!  So please, focus your catering on us!  And let the vagabonds who jump from game to game come and go.