Bauble of Holidays Past

Cyliena · 06-16-2010, 04:59 PM

Syndares brought up this topic on the Tinkerfest test thread (see here), and has a very good point.

The particle effect from it is very difficult to see (I'm on extreme quality graphics with some customized options). I had to really get close to the monitor and squint to discern some of them. The "trail" it leaves is barely noticable at all.. it took me quite a while to even realize that there was a trail.

It's a cool item, but considering that it takes a year to get if you don't miss any holiday events, it's a tad disappointing. I'd like to see the particle effects be more obvious. I'd also really love it more if it could be changed into a house item that alternates itself between the effects.

edit: For the curious, here's a link with pics of the particle effects.

KerowynnKaotic · 06-16-2010, 05:31 PM

I agree with the disappointment on the item.

I was hoping for either a Permanent Port to Frostfell or a Frostfell Crafting Device.

It's a Candy Cane Icon! Frostfell is the most annoying of all Holiday Events 'cause you can't craft the recipes all year.

The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play.

Brutalicus · 06-17-2010, 01:44 PM

Its a nice idea they just need to increase the size or intensity of the particle effect. However the port to frostfell is an awsome idea!

xeyda · 06-17-2010, 03:44 PM

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

I agree with the disappointment on the item.
I was hoping for either a Permanent Port to Frostfell or a Frostfell Crafting Device.
It's a Candy Cane Icon! Frostfell is the most annoying of all Holiday Events 'cause you can't craft the recipes all year.
The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play.

Agreed fully.

Kiara · 06-17-2010, 03:49 PM

My bad... Read the rest of the thread.

Carry on!

shadowscale · 06-17-2010, 06:45 PM

a port to frostfell? that kind of leaves out the ohter holidays....

bleh they need more for nights of the dead...

Iskandar · 06-17-2010, 08:58 PM

Does the effect from this overwrite other particle effects, such as the pixie on a string or the different glowy fists?

Powers · 06-18-2010, 09:18 AM

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play.

There is no way to create an item that *everyone* would want and use. For every person who doesn't like the particle effect, there's someone who will get use out of it. I'm sorry you don't like it and aren't going to use it, but I think it's kinda neat.

Powers &8^]

Barx · 06-18-2010, 12:14 PM

In any case, the item needs to say what it does. You should be able to see right from the achievements tab that all it will do is give a particle effect, just put that in the description: "This item will allow the caster to apply a holiday-themed effect while they walk"

Not knowing what it does is what sets people up for disappointment far more than what it actually does.

xeyda · 06-18-2010, 01:50 PM

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

In any case, the item needs to say what it does. You should be able to see right from the achievements tab that all it will do is give a particle effect, just put that in the description: "This item will allow the caster to apply a holiday-themed effect while they walk"
Not knowing what it does is what sets people up for disappointment far more than what it actually does.

Agreed.

Powers · 06-19-2010, 02:23 PM

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Not knowing what it does is what sets people up for disappointment far more than what it actually does.

Nothing wrong with surprises now and then. Remember at launch when you didn't know what the reward was from a quest until you completed it?

Anyway, I can't imagine this is going to change anyone's behavior any. I certainly hope no one was participating in the events just for the sake of getting an unknown reward.

Powers &8^]

Sydares · 06-19-2010, 03:13 PM

Powers wrote:

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:
The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play.
There is no way to create an item that *everyone* would want and use.

My main complaint isn't so much this, so much as the particles are really tiny.

Cyliena · 06-19-2010, 06:59 PM

Sydares wrote:

Powers wrote:
Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:
The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play.
There is no way to create an item that *everyone* would want and use.
My main complaint isn't so much this, so much as the particles are really tiny.

This!

Kaitheel · 06-21-2010, 01:39 PM

Heyya everyone!

Congratulations on attaining the Bauble of Holidays Past! Though, I am sorry to hear that you were a bit disappointed with the size of the particles at your feet. The good news is that our marvelous fx artist has sized them up. At the same time the description of the item has been changed to read, "This festive bauble will allow the caster to apply a holiday-themed effect while they walk, no matter what time of year it may be!" Unfortunately though, due to this being an art issue, the changes will not be live until GU57. But it is coming! Hopefully, these two changes help to resolve the issues.

~Kaitheel

Barx · 06-21-2010, 05:09 PM

Kaitheel wrote:

Heyya everyone!
Congratulations on attaining the Bauble of Holidays Past! Though, I am sorry to hear that you were a bit disappointed with the size of the particles at your feet. The good news is that our marvelous fx artist has sized them up. At the same time the description of the item has been changed to read, "This festive bauble will allow the caster to apply a holiday-themed effect while they walk, no matter what time of year it may be!" Unfortunately though, due to this being an art issue, the changes will not be live until GU57. But it is coming! Hopefully, these two changes help to resolve the issues.
~Kaitheel

Is the description change also not going in until GU57, or could it be hotfixed in before the next Tinkerfest since it should be (to my knowledge) separable from the art change? And thanks for the changes =)

06-16-2010, 05:31 PM	#2
KerowynnKaotic Tormentor of Fae Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Middle of Nowhere, Arizona Posts: 1,862	I agree with the disappointment on the item. I was hoping for either a Permanent Port to Frostfell or a Frostfell Crafting Device. It's a Candy Cane Icon! Frostfell is the most annoying of all Holiday Events 'cause you can't craft the recipes all year. The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play. __________________

06-17-2010, 03:44 PM	#4
xeyda Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 272	Kaisha@Permafrost wrote: I agree with the disappointment on the item. I was hoping for either a Permanent Port to Frostfell or a Frostfell Crafting Device. It's a Candy Cane Icon! Frostfell is the most annoying of all Holiday Events 'cause you can't craft the recipes all year. The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play. Agreed fully.

06-18-2010, 09:18 AM	#8
Powers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 664	Kaisha@Permafrost wrote: The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play. There is no way to create an item that everyone would want and use. For every person who doesn't like the particle effect, there's someone who will get use out of it. I'm sorry you don't like it and aren't going to use it, but I think it's kinda neat. Powers &8^]

06-18-2010, 01:50 PM	#10
xeyda Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 272	Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: In any case, the item needs to say what it does. You should be able to see right from the achievements tab that all it will do is give a particle effect, just put that in the description: "This item will allow the caster to apply a holiday-themed effect while they walk" Not knowing what it does is what sets people up for disappointment far more than what it actually does. Agreed.

06-19-2010, 02:23 PM	#11
Powers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 664	Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: Not knowing what it does is what sets people up for disappointment far more than what it actually does. Nothing wrong with surprises now and then. Remember at launch when you didn't know what the reward was from a quest until you completed it? Anyway, I can't imagine this is going to change anyone's behavior any. I certainly hope no one was participating in the events just for the sake of getting an unknown reward. Powers &8^]

06-16-2010, 04:59 PM	#1
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Syndares brought up this topic on the Tinkerfest test thread (see here), and has a very good point. The particle effect from it is very difficult to see (I'm on extreme quality graphics with some customized options). I had to really get close to the monitor and squint to discern some of them. The "trail" it leaves is barely noticable at all.. it took me quite a while to even realize that there was a trail. It's a cool item, but considering that it takes a year to get if you don't miss any holiday events, it's a tad disappointing. I'd like to see the particle effects be more obvious. I'd also really love it more if it could be changed into a house item that alternates itself between the effects. edit: For the curious, here's a link with pics of the particle effects.

06-17-2010, 01:44 PM	#3
Brutalicus Server: Nagafen Guild: Dark Crusade Rank: General Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 268	Its a nice idea they just need to increase the size or intensity of the particle effect. However the port to frostfell is an awsome idea!

06-17-2010, 03:49 PM	#5
Kiara Community Relations Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,359	My bad... Read the rest of the thread. Carry on!

06-17-2010, 06:45 PM	#6
shadowscale Forum Dragon Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,535	a port to frostfell? that kind of leaves out the ohter holidays.... bleh they need more for nights of the dead...

06-17-2010, 08:58 PM	#7
Iskandar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 1,047	Does the effect from this overwrite other particle effects, such as the pixie on a string or the different glowy fists?

06-18-2010, 12:14 PM	#9
Barx Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Mayhem Rank: Officers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manors of Mithaniel, New Halas Posts: 3,480	In any case, the item needs to say what it does. You should be able to see right from the achievements tab that all it will do is give a particle effect, just put that in the description: "This item will allow the caster to apply a holiday-themed effect while they walk" Not knowing what it does is what sets people up for disappointment far more than what it actually does.

06-19-2010, 03:13 PM	#12
Sydares Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 700	Powers wrote: Kaisha@Permafrost wrote: The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play. There is no way to create an item that everyone would want and use. My main complaint isn't so much this, so much as the particles are really tiny.

06-19-2010, 06:59 PM	#13
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Sydares wrote: Powers wrote: Kaisha@Permafrost wrote: The particle effect just relegates the item to my bank. Never to see the light of day after the 1st day of play. There is no way to create an item that everyone would want and use. My main complaint isn't so much this, so much as the particles are really tiny. This!

06-21-2010, 01:39 PM	#14
Kaitheel Dev Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 796	Heyya everyone! Congratulations on attaining the Bauble of Holidays Past! Though, I am sorry to hear that you were a bit disappointed with the size of the particles at your feet. The good news is that our marvelous fx artist has sized them up. At the same time the description of the item has been changed to read, "This festive bauble will allow the caster to apply a holiday-themed effect while they walk, no matter what time of year it may be!" Unfortunately though, due to this being an art issue, the changes will not be live until GU57. But it is coming! Hopefully, these two changes help to resolve the issues. ~Kaitheel __________________

06-21-2010, 05:09 PM	#15
Barx Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Mayhem Rank: Officers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manors of Mithaniel, New Halas Posts: 3,480	Kaitheel wrote: Heyya everyone! Congratulations on attaining the Bauble of Holidays Past! Though, I am sorry to hear that you were a bit disappointed with the size of the particles at your feet. The good news is that our marvelous fx artist has sized them up. At the same time the description of the item has been changed to read, "This festive bauble will allow the caster to apply a holiday-themed effect while they walk, no matter what time of year it may be!" Unfortunately though, due to this being an art issue, the changes will not be live until GU57. But it is coming! Hopefully, these two changes help to resolve the issues. ~Kaitheel Is the description change also not going in until GU57, or could it be hotfixed in before the next Tinkerfest since it should be (to my knowledge) separable from the art change? And thanks for the changes =)