To the devs.............. Battlegrounds

Shorcon · 04-24-2010, 05:07 PM

I felt this post kinda put things into a gamer prospective for you, the devs to think about..........

I dont think we should all zone in equal with 0 progression. I do think that in the early stages of bg we need to consider the fact that balance is impossible to regulate without reigning in on some of the items available in both blue and red servers. To start, day one, we should have all entered in equal gear without any extra crap to distort the balance. That wasnt the case now was it? No. My gear had 0 toughness. Nag/vox had a full set of toughness gear. How can we [Removed for Content] balance with these issues at hand?

I am glad I supported that nerf of nag/vox nerf. I am dismayed that they still have toughness on that gear but hey. It's better. Not perfect but better.

SOE relies on us the player to give feedback for imporving game balance. Here is my feedback.

I dont throw bs to the wind. I call it how I see it. As I see it now you will have your hands full trying to get balance out of the current state of things. You need to close bg to all but bg gear and a select few items that are available to all. You need to update once a month with new items usable in bg from the pve world only. Post this clearly in the update notes so that players can use and assess these items in a way that is easier to actualy give you clear focused feedback.

Make sense to anyone?

Now you will see many posts argueing against this. BG is new. It's kinda a now or never situation. Kinda like the unfair advantage for pvp servers.

In order for battlegrounds to work we need 100% access to anything used in battlegrounds by all players red or blue. Battlegrounds is not pvp/pve. It is Battlegrounds.

Megavolt · 04-24-2010, 05:13 PM

timetravelling wrote:

Allo!
GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included:
Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories
Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds!
Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot!
As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments!
Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated!
Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers
Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands!
Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change.

please read before posting and stop yer QQing

Shorcon · 04-24-2010, 07:32 PM

Brickfist wrote:

timetravelling wrote:
Allo!
GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included:
Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories
Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds!
Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot!
As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments!
Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated!
Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers
Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands!
Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change.
please read before posting and stop yer QQing

I did read and before editing there was a statement about pvp items being re-enabled for bg. I guess my QQ is working. It's what the forums are for right?

Darkonx · 04-24-2010, 07:37 PM

Shorcon wrote:

Brickfist wrote:
timetravelling wrote:
Allo!
GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included:
Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories
Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds!
Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot!
As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments!
Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated!
Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers
Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands!
Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change.
please read before posting and stop yer QQing
I did read and before editing there was a statement about pvp items being re-enabled for bg. I guess my QQ is working. It's what the forums are for right?

There still is. I'll bold it, and put it in red so you can see it.

Shorcon · 04-24-2010, 07:44 PM

Darkonx wrote:

Shorcon wrote:
Brickfist wrote:
timetravelling wrote:
Allo!
GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included:
Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories
Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds!
Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot!
As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments!
Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated!
Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers
Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands!
Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change.
please read before posting and stop yer QQing
I did read and before editing there was a statement about pvp items being re-enabled for bg. I guess my QQ is working. It's what the forums are for right?
There still is. I'll bold it, and put it in red so you can see it.

Thank you. Now what am I reading Brickfist?

Darkonx · 04-24-2010, 08:12 PM

Shorcon wrote:

Darkonx wrote:
Shorcon wrote:
Brickfist wrote:
timetravelling wrote:
Allo!
GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included:
Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories
Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds!
Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot!
As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments!
Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated!
Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers
Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands!
Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change.
please read before posting and stop yer QQing
I did read and before editing there was a statement about pvp items being re-enabled for bg. I guess my QQ is working. It's what the forums are for right?
There still is. I'll bold it, and put it in red so you can see it.
Thank you. Now what am I reading Brickfist?

He wanted to read the other thing that was bolded. About adding more gear. I'll make it larger, and in red as well.

Shankapotomus · 04-26-2010, 09:24 AM

I'll call it how I see it.

What system does Battlegrounds run off of? OOOOO... The PvP system...

I don't think you no what PvP stands for. Player Vs Player, and thats what I see in BGs. Quit thinking of PvP as a server type and as a play style. And from your massive amount of QQ I don't think you even have enough time to get on and play BGs to know what you're actually QQ'in about. The vast majority of Blues have accepted their are problems with the game (Reds have been forced to for a while) and are playing the game none the less and enjoying it.

Wait... I think I saw you in BGs the other day. Was your name Shorcon Tears'Ofdestiny?

04-24-2010, 05:07 PM	#1
Shorcon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 227	I felt this post kinda put things into a gamer prospective for you, the devs to think about.......... I dont think we should all zone in equal with 0 progression. I do think that in the early stages of bg we need to consider the fact that balance is impossible to regulate without reigning in on some of the items available in both blue and red servers. To start, day one, we should have all entered in equal gear without any extra crap to distort the balance. That wasnt the case now was it? No. My gear had 0 toughness. Nag/vox had a full set of toughness gear. How can we [Removed for Content] balance with these issues at hand? I am glad I supported that nerf of nag/vox nerf. I am dismayed that they still have toughness on that gear but hey. It's better. Not perfect but better. SOE relies on us the player to give feedback for imporving game balance. Here is my feedback. I dont throw bs to the wind. I call it how I see it. As I see it now you will have your hands full trying to get balance out of the current state of things. You need to close bg to all but bg gear and a select few items that are available to all. You need to update once a month with new items usable in bg from the pve world only. Post this clearly in the update notes so that players can use and assess these items in a way that is easier to actualy give you clear focused feedback. Make sense to anyone? Now you will see many posts argueing against this. BG is new. It's kinda a now or never situation. Kinda like the unfair advantage for pvp servers. In order for battlegrounds to work we need 100% access to anything used in battlegrounds by all players red or blue. Battlegrounds is not pvp/pve. It is Battlegrounds. __________________

04-24-2010, 05:13 PM	#2
Megavolt Server: Everfrost Guild: Mithril Rank: Emissary (6mo + 250k status) Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 212	timetravelling wrote: Allo! GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included: Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds! Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot! As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments! Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated! Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands! Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change. please read before posting and stop yer QQing __________________

04-24-2010, 07:32 PM	#3
Shorcon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 227	Brickfist wrote: timetravelling wrote: Allo! GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included: Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds! Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot! As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments! Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated! Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands! Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change. please read before posting and stop yer QQing I did read and before editing there was a statement about pvp items being re-enabled for bg. I guess my QQ is working. It's what the forums are for right? __________________

04-24-2010, 07:37 PM	#4
Darkonx Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 389	Shorcon wrote: Brickfist wrote: timetravelling wrote: Allo! GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included: Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds! Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot! As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments! Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated! Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands! Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change. please read before posting and stop yer QQing I did read and before editing there was a statement about pvp items being re-enabled for bg. I guess my QQ is working. It's what the forums are for right? There still is. I'll bold it, and put it in red so you can see it.

04-24-2010, 07:44 PM	#5
Shorcon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 227	Darkonx wrote: Shorcon wrote: Brickfist wrote: timetravelling wrote: Allo! GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included: Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds! Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot! As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments! Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated! Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands! Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change. please read before posting and stop yer QQing I did read and before editing there was a statement about pvp items being re-enabled for bg. I guess my QQ is working. It's what the forums are for right? There still is. I'll bold it, and put it in red so you can see it. Thank you. Now what am I reading Brickfist? __________________

04-24-2010, 08:12 PM	#6
Darkonx Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 389	Shorcon wrote: Darkonx wrote: Shorcon wrote: Brickfist wrote: timetravelling wrote: Allo! GU56 will be hitting the test server soon, and I'd like to give y'all a brief preview of some of the exciting things that should be included: Brand new 1st Campaign armor sets and accessories Many of the accessories are based upon the currently BG-disabled RoK PvP accessories. Those adornments have had their effects adjusted and will be re-enabled for battlegrounds! Each armor piece will have a pvp-only Blue adornment slot! As such, we'll all be introducing 20+ new Blue adornments! Battlegrounds at levels 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 are being activated! Battleground armor sets and accessories will be on sale at each of those tiers Brand new open-pvp server battles for control of Antonica and Commonlands! Additionally, we've internally removed the ~15% damage reduction applied to all spells in pvp combat. I'd like to once again ask for y'all to copy over to test-copy and give us feedback on the change. please read before posting and stop yer QQing I did read and before editing there was a statement about pvp items being re-enabled for bg. I guess my QQ is working. It's what the forums are for right? There still is. I'll bold it, and put it in red so you can see it. Thank you. Now what am I reading Brickfist? He wanted to read the other thing that was bolded. About adding more gear. I'll make it larger, and in red as well.

04-26-2010, 09:24 AM	#7
Shankapotomus Server: Nagafen Guild: Risen Reborn Rank: Centurion Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 177	I'll call it how I see it. What system does Battlegrounds run off of? OOOOO... The PvP system... I don't think you no what PvP stands for. Player Vs Player, and thats what I see in BGs. Quit thinking of PvP as a server type and as a play style. And from your massive amount of QQ I don't think you even have enough time to get on and play BGs to know what you're actually QQ'in about. The vast majority of Blues have accepted their are problems with the game (Reds have been forced to for a while) and are playing the game none the less and enjoying it. Wait... I think I saw you in BGs the other day. Was your name Shorcon Tears'Ofdestiny? __________________