Vampire Bats - Anyone using it 80+

Odium · 02-24-2010, 07:54 PM

So I love the graphic of Vampire bats but the damage, DOT interval and recast time basically emiminate it from my general line-up. Even just looking at the damge - its way behind other spells that refresh quick enough to be used again it its place. I dont remember for sure if +spell damage (or is it Ability Modifier now) affected Vampire Bats.

Does anyone lvl 70 - 90 include Vampire Bats in their regular cast sequence? I'd love to find a way to make the spell stack up better against the others. I havent actually parsed it, but just looking at the damage on the description, I'm not even sure +spell damage did much at all and with it being piercing damage, none of the typical necro damage type modifiers work either - which also probably means it doesnt trigger Lich now that I think of it.

I noticed there is a 80+ upgrade for it ( forget what level it is) is it worth getting?

Incedently - I still use Dooming Darkness that hasnt been upgraded since what...the 50's? (level, not era, ) probably pointless, but I like its graphic too.

Thanks

stgninja · 02-24-2010, 10:38 PM

I only use vampire bats if all my spells are down and when I want to take a screenshot with bats /shrug.

But other than just being a "filler" spell, its pretty much useless tbh. I wouldn't buy any upgrades for it.

Hardain · 02-25-2010, 11:38 AM

With UT and/or AD VB deals fair amount of damage and debuffs a bit, even though it ticks for quite a long time.

Oh and Poltergeist, stop using fear and lifetaps in PvP, it's OP

Nulgara · 02-25-2010, 11:56 AM

personally i only use vb on raid mobs and when im soloing 3up heroics and named. ill definately expert mine but its near the bottom of the list for using a kaborite.

Warkral · 02-26-2010, 05:42 PM

It's so useless it's not even in my lineup unless I want to parse high on the training dummy

bluegod · 02-26-2010, 08:09 PM

Well, I'm no leet player, but I use it all the time when soloing (probably why I'm no leet player ) I cast it just as I'm sending the pet in. Because of it's long cast time, it gives the pet a chance to get aggro.

Oriax · 02-27-2010, 05:19 AM

I use it on any mob that I know will take a little longer to kill simply for the defensive reduction it adds. Otherwise on general solo mobs I never use it.

Garlin1 · 02-27-2010, 03:47 PM

It is part of my spell rotation and always will be part of my spell rotation. With AD it goes off every 3 secs opposed to 4. Not one of the first I cast but def one I do cast.

Eritius · 03-03-2010, 07:07 PM

My necro is only 67 so the spell might be a bit more useful for me now. But I typically use it because everything else is on cooldown and the debuff isn't terrible since alot of my friends play some sort of melee dps. But again they aren't 80 or 90 and miss a little more then heavily geared top levels.

Daelim · 03-06-2010, 01:29 PM

I only use it because everything else is on cooldown... If you work your spell rotation just right it fits in ok. If I have to throw a heal/rez/manipulations spell or something I leave out VB to get the rotation back on track...

Odium · 03-10-2010, 07:45 PM

Okidokie - Thanks for the feedback - appreciated.

02-24-2010, 07:54 PM	#1
Odium Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 79	So I love the graphic of Vampire bats but the damage, DOT interval and recast time basically emiminate it from my general line-up. Even just looking at the damge - its way behind other spells that refresh quick enough to be used again it its place. I dont remember for sure if +spell damage (or is it Ability Modifier now) affected Vampire Bats. Does anyone lvl 70 - 90 include Vampire Bats in their regular cast sequence? I'd love to find a way to make the spell stack up better against the others. I havent actually parsed it, but just looking at the damage on the description, I'm not even sure +spell damage did much at all and with it being piercing damage, none of the typical necro damage type modifiers work either - which also probably means it doesnt trigger Lich now that I think of it. I noticed there is a 80+ upgrade for it ( forget what level it is) is it worth getting? Incedently - I still use Dooming Darkness that hasnt been upgraded since what...the 50's? (level, not era, ) probably pointless, but I like its graphic too. Thanks __________________ 80 Necromancer Guild leader www.Lotseekers.net "Aliquando et insanire iucundum est!" - It is sometimes pleasant even to act like a madman

02-24-2010, 10:38 PM	#2
stgninja Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: I'm in your ____, ____ing your ____. Posts: 541	I only use vampire bats if all my spells are down and when I want to take a screenshot with bats /shrug. But other than just being a "filler" spell, its pretty much useless tbh. I wouldn't buy any upgrades for it. __________________

02-25-2010, 11:56 AM	#4
Nulgara Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Prophecy of Runes Rank: Council Member Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 233	personally i only use vb on raid mobs and when im soloing 3up heroics and named. ill definately expert mine but its near the bottom of the list for using a kaborite. __________________ Nalgara - Beastlord Maahes - SK Seyn - Monk Nulgara - Necromancer Ashys - Defiler Lorrn - Warlock

02-26-2010, 05:42 PM	#5
Warkral Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 59	It's so useless it's not even in my lineup unless I want to parse high on the training dummy __________________

02-27-2010, 03:47 PM	#8
Garlin1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 229	It is part of my spell rotation and always will be part of my spell rotation. With AD it goes off every 3 secs opposed to 4. Not one of the first I cast but def one I do cast. __________________

02-25-2010, 11:38 AM	#3
Hardain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 565	With UT and/or AD VB deals fair amount of damage and debuffs a bit, even though it ticks for quite a long time. Oh and Poltergeist, stop using fear and lifetaps in PvP, it's OP

02-26-2010, 08:09 PM	#6
bluegod Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 103	Well, I'm no leet player, but I use it all the time when soloing (probably why I'm no leet player ) I cast it just as I'm sending the pet in. Because of it's long cast time, it gives the pet a chance to get aggro.

02-27-2010, 05:19 AM	#7
Oriax Server: Runnyeye Guild: Sultans of Swing Rank: Caliph (member alt ) Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 193	I use it on any mob that I know will take a little longer to kill simply for the defensive reduction it adds. Otherwise on general solo mobs I never use it.

03-03-2010, 07:07 PM	#9
Eritius Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Fate by Blood Rank: Commander Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 759	My necro is only 67 so the spell might be a bit more useful for me now. But I typically use it because everything else is on cooldown and the debuff isn't terrible since alot of my friends play some sort of melee dps. But again they aren't 80 or 90 and miss a little more then heavily geared top levels.

03-06-2010, 01:29 PM	#10
Daelim Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	I only use it because everything else is on cooldown... If you work your spell rotation just right it fits in ok. If I have to throw a heal/rez/manipulations spell or something I leave out VB to get the rotation back on track...

03-10-2010, 07:45 PM	#11
Odium Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 79	Okidokie - Thanks for the feedback - appreciated. __________________ 80 Necromancer Guild leader www.Lotseekers.net "Aliquando et insanire iucundum est!" - It is sometimes pleasant even to act like a madman