A bug of abilities to increase reuse speed?

Nero · 01-16-2009, 10:53 PM

SK's abilities like Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity to increase Reuse Speed seem to be broken at least in test server.

Avenging Invigoration increases Reuse Speed of caster by 10.0%.Unholy Voracity increases Reuse Speed of group members(AE) by 10.0%.Enhance: Rescue improves the reuse speed of Rescue by 10% per 1 point.Enhance: Mortal Embrace improves the reuse speed by 30 seconds per 1 point.

Original Recast of Rescue is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Rescue, it becomes 3minutes20seconds.With 5 points, it becomes 2minutes 57seconds.

Original Recast of Mortal Embrace is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace, it becomes 2minutes40seconds.With 4 points, it becomes 2minutes30seconds.2minutes30seconds is the half of Recast of Mortal Embrace and the limit of increasing Reuse Speed.

It is obvious that something is wrong with the system of increasing Reuse Speed of SK.About Rescue, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Rescue.And about Mortal Embrace, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace.But it seems not to work.

If this is a bug, please fix, devs.Especially, Recast of Rescue is very important.Achievement became very important and very useful in TSO.So, I don't want to waste even 1 AA point.Please look at this problem.

Kaarim · 01-17-2009, 08:54 PM

Nero wrote:

SK's abilities like Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity to increase Reuse Speed seem to be broken at least in test server.
Avenging Invigoration increases Reuse Speed of caster by 10.0%.Unholy Voracity increases Reuse Speed of group members(AE) by 10.0%.Enhance: Rescue improves the reuse speed of Rescue by 10% per 1 point.Enhance: Mortal Embrace improves the reuse speed by 30 seconds per 1 point.
Original Recast of Rescue is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Rescue, it becomes 3minutes20seconds.With 5 points, it becomes 2minutes 57seconds.
Original Recast of Mortal Embrace is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace, it becomes 2minutes40seconds.With 4 points, it becomes 2minutes30seconds.2minutes30seconds is the half of Recast of Mortal Embrace and the limit of increasing Reuse Speed.
It is obvious that something is wrong with the system of increasing Reuse Speed of SK.About Rescue, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Rescue.And about Mortal Embrace, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace.But it seems not to work.
If this is a bug, please fix, devs.Especially, Recast of Rescue is very important.Achievement became very important and very useful in TSO.So, I don't want to waste even 1 AA point.Please look at this problem.

Uhm, those are not bugs. It's working just fine. The way EQ2 works is that you cannot go over 50% of the spell recast timer. Basically you have Rescue at original 5mins if you manage to get it to 2.50 mins give or take a few seconds for rounded numbers. You can't get it lesser no matter how many reuse gear or reuse ability or buffs you have...it's just the way the game is coded just can't do it. So the points spent on your rescue to "Try" to lower the cast to 2min30s as you were aiming for is unrealistic and you can spend your points else where, same thing with FD. Hope this helps...but I can assure it is not a bug.

Nero · 01-17-2009, 09:48 PM

Darkwarrior@Blackburrow wrote:

Nero wrote:
SK's abilities like Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity to increase Reuse Speed seem to be broken at least in test server.
Avenging Invigoration increases Reuse Speed of caster by 10.0%.Unholy Voracity increases Reuse Speed of group members(AE) by 10.0%.Enhance: Rescue improves the reuse speed of Rescue by 10% per 1 point.Enhance: Mortal Embrace improves the reuse speed by 30 seconds per 1 point.
Original Recast of Rescue is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Rescue, it becomes 3minutes20seconds.With 5 points, it becomes 2minutes 57seconds.
Original Recast of Mortal Embrace is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace, it becomes 2minutes40seconds.With 4 points, it becomes 2minutes30seconds.2minutes30seconds is the half of Recast of Mortal Embrace and the limit of increasing Reuse Speed.
It is obvious that something is wrong with the system of increasing Reuse Speed of SK.About Rescue, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Rescue.And about Mortal Embrace, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace.But it seems not to work.
If this is a bug, please fix, devs.Especially, Recast of Rescue is very important.Achievement became very important and very useful in TSO.So, I don't want to waste even 1 AA point.Please look at this problem.
Uhm, those are not bugs. It's working just fine. The way EQ2 works is that you cannot go over 50% of the spell recast timer. Basically you have Rescue at original 5mins if you manage to get it to 2.50 mins give or take a few seconds for rounded numbers. You can't get it lesser no matter how many reuse gear or reuse ability or buffs you have...it's just the way the game is coded just can't do it. So the points spent on your rescue to "Try" to lower the cast to 2min30s as you were aiming for is unrealistic and you can spend your points else where, same thing with FD. Hope this helps...but I can assure it is not a bug.

Thanks for your repling.

I know that we can't go over 50% of the spell recast timer.But the problem is not there.

For example, Rescue has 5mins recast.With Avenging Invigoration, which increases reuse speed of caster by 10%, the recast of Rescue must become 4mins30secs.But it is actually 4mins33secs.At this point, something is wrong.Further, with Avenging Invigoration(10% faster reuse speed) and Unholy Voracity(10% faster reuse speed), which must increase reuse speed of caster by 20% totally, Rescue must become 4mins.But it is actually 4mins10secs.And finally, with Avenging Invigoration(10% faster reuse speed), Unholy Voracity(10% faster reuse speed) and 3 points of Enhance: Rescue(10% faster reuse speed per 1 point), which must increase reuse speed of Rescue by 50% totally, Rescue must become 2mins30secs, which is 50% of the spell recast timer.But it is actually 3mins20secs.

So, I don't know if it is intended or not, but the code or mechanics to increase reuse speed seems to be broken, imo.

If it is intended, all I can do is /shrug....I hope that it is not intended.

VengeanceX · 01-18-2009, 09:58 PM

It took me a while to figure it out but here is how I think it works...

100% Reuse = half the reuse time i.e. 300 seconds (5 minutes) becomes 150 seconds (2 minutes 30 seconds)

So...

10% Reuse = 300 / 1.1 = ~273 = 4 minutes 33 seconds

20% Reuse = 300 / 1.2 = 250 = 4 minutes 10 seconds

50% Reuse = 300 / 1.5 = 200 = 3 minutes 20 seconds

So rescue with all the achievements maxed out...

70% Reuse = 300 / 1.7 = ~176 = 2 minutes 56 seconds

This might not be what you were hoping to hear but hopefully it helps clear things up a little bit.

Nero · 01-19-2009, 04:55 AM

VengeanceX wrote:

It took me a while to figure it out but here is how I think it works...
100% Reuse = half the reuse time i.e. 300 seconds (5 minutes) becomes 150 seconds (2 minutes 30 seconds)
So...
10% Reuse = 300 / 1.1 = ~273 = 4 minutes 33 seconds
20% Reuse = 300 / 1.2 = 250 = 4 minutes 10 seconds
50% Reuse = 300 / 1.5 = 200 = 3 minutes 20 seconds
So rescue with all the achievements maxed out...
70% Reuse = 300 / 1.7 = ~176 = 2 minutes 56 seconds
This might not be what you were hoping to hear but hopefully it helps clear things up a little bit.

Thank you very much for your replying and your informing me.

It seems that I misunderstood how the increase of reuse speed works.Now, I think that I figured out.I apologize for the inconvenience of my confusing you and other players.I'm sorry.

Once again, thank you for your correcting me.

geophonic · 01-19-2009, 01:35 PM

this got me confused aswell while reading, figuring out that 100% reuse equals half the recast time is what misleads here SMILEY

01-17-2009, 08:54 PM	#2
Kaarim Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada, Ontario Posts: 123	Nero wrote: SK's abilities like Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity to increase Reuse Speed seem to be broken at least in test server. Avenging Invigoration increases Reuse Speed of caster by 10.0%.Unholy Voracity increases Reuse Speed of group members(AE) by 10.0%.Enhance: Rescue improves the reuse speed of Rescue by 10% per 1 point.Enhance: Mortal Embrace improves the reuse speed by 30 seconds per 1 point. Original Recast of Rescue is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Rescue, it becomes 3minutes20seconds.With 5 points, it becomes 2minutes 57seconds. Original Recast of Mortal Embrace is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace, it becomes 2minutes40seconds.With 4 points, it becomes 2minutes30seconds.2minutes30seconds is the half of Recast of Mortal Embrace and the limit of increasing Reuse Speed. It is obvious that something is wrong with the system of increasing Reuse Speed of SK.About Rescue, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Rescue.And about Mortal Embrace, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace.But it seems not to work. If this is a bug, please fix, devs.Especially, Recast of Rescue is very important.Achievement became very important and very useful in TSO.So, I don't want to waste even 1 AA point.Please look at this problem. Uhm, those are not bugs. It's working just fine. The way EQ2 works is that you cannot go over 50% of the spell recast timer. Basically you have Rescue at original 5mins if you manage to get it to 2.50 mins give or take a few seconds for rounded numbers. You can't get it lesser no matter how many reuse gear or reuse ability or buffs you have...it's just the way the game is coded just can't do it. So the points spent on your rescue to "Try" to lower the cast to 2min30s as you were aiming for is unrealistic and you can spend your points else where, same thing with FD. Hope this helps...but I can assure it is not a bug. __________________ I CONTROL MERCY!

01-17-2009, 09:48 PM	#3
Nero Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Farthest East Posts: 481	Darkwarrior@Blackburrow wrote: Nero wrote: SK's abilities like Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity to increase Reuse Speed seem to be broken at least in test server. Avenging Invigoration increases Reuse Speed of caster by 10.0%.Unholy Voracity increases Reuse Speed of group members(AE) by 10.0%.Enhance: Rescue improves the reuse speed of Rescue by 10% per 1 point.Enhance: Mortal Embrace improves the reuse speed by 30 seconds per 1 point. Original Recast of Rescue is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Rescue, it becomes 3minutes20seconds.With 5 points, it becomes 2minutes 57seconds. Original Recast of Mortal Embrace is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace, it becomes 2minutes40seconds.With 4 points, it becomes 2minutes30seconds.2minutes30seconds is the half of Recast of Mortal Embrace and the limit of increasing Reuse Speed. It is obvious that something is wrong with the system of increasing Reuse Speed of SK.About Rescue, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Rescue.And about Mortal Embrace, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace.But it seems not to work. If this is a bug, please fix, devs.Especially, Recast of Rescue is very important.Achievement became very important and very useful in TSO.So, I don't want to waste even 1 AA point.Please look at this problem. Uhm, those are not bugs. It's working just fine. The way EQ2 works is that you cannot go over 50% of the spell recast timer. Basically you have Rescue at original 5mins if you manage to get it to 2.50 mins give or take a few seconds for rounded numbers. You can't get it lesser no matter how many reuse gear or reuse ability or buffs you have...it's just the way the game is coded just can't do it. So the points spent on your rescue to "Try" to lower the cast to 2min30s as you were aiming for is unrealistic and you can spend your points else where, same thing with FD. Hope this helps...but I can assure it is not a bug. Thanks for your repling. I know that we can't go over 50% of the spell recast timer.But the problem is not there. For example, Rescue has 5mins recast.With Avenging Invigoration, which increases reuse speed of caster by 10%, the recast of Rescue must become 4mins30secs.But it is actually 4mins33secs.At this point, something is wrong.Further, with Avenging Invigoration(10% faster reuse speed) and Unholy Voracity(10% faster reuse speed), which must increase reuse speed of caster by 20% totally, Rescue must become 4mins.But it is actually 4mins10secs.And finally, with Avenging Invigoration(10% faster reuse speed), Unholy Voracity(10% faster reuse speed) and 3 points of Enhance: Rescue(10% faster reuse speed per 1 point), which must increase reuse speed of Rescue by 50% totally, Rescue must become 2mins30secs, which is 50% of the spell recast timer.But it is actually 3mins20secs. So, I don't know if it is intended or not, but the code or mechanics to increase reuse speed seems to be broken, imo. If it is intended, all I can do is /shrug....I hope that it is not intended.

01-19-2009, 04:55 AM	#5
Nero Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Farthest East Posts: 481	VengeanceX wrote: It took me a while to figure it out but here is how I think it works... 100% Reuse = half the reuse time i.e. 300 seconds (5 minutes) becomes 150 seconds (2 minutes 30 seconds) So... 10% Reuse = 300 / 1.1 = ~273 = 4 minutes 33 seconds 20% Reuse = 300 / 1.2 = 250 = 4 minutes 10 seconds 50% Reuse = 300 / 1.5 = 200 = 3 minutes 20 seconds So rescue with all the achievements maxed out... 70% Reuse = 300 / 1.7 = ~176 = 2 minutes 56 seconds This might not be what you were hoping to hear but hopefully it helps clear things up a little bit. Thank you very much for your replying and your informing me. It seems that I misunderstood how the increase of reuse speed works.Now, I think that I figured out.I apologize for the inconvenience of my confusing you and other players.I'm sorry. Once again, thank you for your correcting me.

01-16-2009, 10:53 PM	#1
Nero Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Farthest East Posts: 481	SK's abilities like Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity to increase Reuse Speed seem to be broken at least in test server. Avenging Invigoration increases Reuse Speed of caster by 10.0%.Unholy Voracity increases Reuse Speed of group members(AE) by 10.0%.Enhance: Rescue improves the reuse speed of Rescue by 10% per 1 point.Enhance: Mortal Embrace improves the reuse speed by 30 seconds per 1 point. Original Recast of Rescue is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Rescue, it becomes 3minutes20seconds.With 5 points, it becomes 2minutes 57seconds. Original Recast of Mortal Embrace is 5minutes.With Avenging Invigoration, it becomes 4minutes33seconds.And with Avenging Invigoration and Unholy Voracity, it becomes 4minutes10seconds.Added it, with 3 points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace, it becomes 2minutes40seconds.With 4 points, it becomes 2minutes30seconds.2minutes30seconds is the half of Recast of Mortal Embrace and the limit of increasing Reuse Speed. It is obvious that something is wrong with the system of increasing Reuse Speed of SK.About Rescue, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Rescue.And about Mortal Embrace, Recast must be 2minutes30seconds with Avenging Invigoration, Unholy Voracity and 3points of Enhance: Mortal Embrace.But it seems not to work. If this is a bug, please fix, devs.Especially, Recast of Rescue is very important.Achievement became very important and very useful in TSO.So, I don't want to waste even 1 AA point.Please look at this problem.

01-18-2009, 09:58 PM	#4
VengeanceX Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 76	It took me a while to figure it out but here is how I think it works... 100% Reuse = half the reuse time i.e. 300 seconds (5 minutes) becomes 150 seconds (2 minutes 30 seconds) So... 10% Reuse = 300 / 1.1 = ~273 = 4 minutes 33 seconds 20% Reuse = 300 / 1.2 = 250 = 4 minutes 10 seconds 50% Reuse = 300 / 1.5 = 200 = 3 minutes 20 seconds So rescue with all the achievements maxed out... 70% Reuse = 300 / 1.7 = ~176 = 2 minutes 56 seconds This might not be what you were hoping to hear but hopefully it helps clear things up a little bit.

01-19-2009, 01:35 PM	#6
geophonic Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 81	this got me confused aswell while reading, figuring out that 100% reuse equals half the recast time is what misleads here