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m421 · 11-18-2008, 04:57 PM

How do you like the changes made to our class? not been able to play yet so im kinda curious!

Sir Draymon · 11-18-2008, 05:01 PM

I miss our pet SMILEY /mourn the little bag of bones

Claymus · 11-18-2008, 06:45 PM

Maybe we will get a normal pet again, probably right after they put in beastlords.

Tygana · 11-19-2008, 02:17 AM

They took the pet away?

Sir Draymon · 11-19-2008, 02:53 AM

Yes, our pet is gone. The sacrament line is now a threat increase spell does increased threat and aoe damage.

Nefarious Sacrament Adept 3

inflicts 1076-1610 disease dmg in targets AOE

increases threat to targets in AOE 2973-3634

when target takes any dmg this spell has 33% to cast sacrifice on targets attacker

increases threat priority by 1 position

Ritmanx · 11-19-2008, 06:56 AM

They took our fancy bonebag! I think that must be petiontated!

DwarvesR · 11-19-2008, 08:34 AM

Why? It's *much* more useful now.

Blakkmantis · 11-19-2008, 10:43 AM

The mediocre pet was replaced by a great new ability. If you want a pet buy a dog. This new skill rocks!

Kynre · 11-19-2008, 11:14 AM

So one more ability that will break mez???

Why not keep the bag of bone pet with an AOE taunt with the pet only damaging the targeted mob?

mobydick · 11-19-2008, 11:52 AM

I petitioned...really liked using this pet for sustained damage during a large chunk of the fight.

Stupid decision.

Kaarim · 11-19-2008, 12:34 PM

Ilbryth@Unrest wrote:

So one more ability that will break mez???
Why not keep the bag of bone pet with an AOE taunt with the pet only damaging the targeted mob?

if the target is mezzed you can aoe and not break them. It was a new change I believe back in one of the EoF live updates.

Hysteric · 11-19-2008, 02:36 PM

mobydick wrote:

I petitioned...really liked using this pet for sustained damage during a large chunk of the fight.
Stupid decision.

Your answer made me laugh. The new spell does more damage at one time then the pet would do if it stayed up the entire duration of the fight and actually lived to tell about it. The pet is not "more" sustained damage, it's low next to nothing damage. The new spell is great for tanking AoE fights (which Shadow Odyssey has ALOT) and a great addition to the "Tanking" Shadowknight. It even is great for a DPS SK if you have a capable tank with aggro transfers and snaps up.

Great Decision

Lord Montague · 11-19-2008, 03:25 PM

Ilbryth@Unrest wrote:

So one more ability that will break mez???
Why not keep the bag of bone pet with an AOE taunt with the pet only damaging the targeted mob?

Ok that makes me laugh. I see no reason why this would break mezz unless it is cast right before the mezz and it procs a DoT somehow.

Shogun Warrior · 11-20-2008, 01:37 AM

At this early stage I would say that the changes are nothing short of sensational.

Attempting to hold aggro used to be a real challenge, often leading to the death of one or possibly more (insert DPS class here) group member. It was embarassing to have to tell them not to hit the mob until I felt that I had built enough aggro and then gave them the go ahead to do their job. I could picture them shaking their heads and making solemn promises to never group with a Shadowknight "Tank" again.

Having now tanked a few of the new instances with a group consisting of two wizards, an assassin, warden and defiler, I can now hold aggro with normal taunts and plenty of damage, only occasionally having to resort to Rescue or Death Touch to pull a wayward mob. Both of these spells are now on sub 5 minute timers btw.

This update has placed the Shadowknight where they should be. I still believe I could not raid-tank as well as a Guardian, and neither should I be able to. I have other utility that they do not. I can now call myself a tank and not just a tin-plated wizard.

Ghouti · 11-20-2008, 05:52 AM

From a solo point of view i can only say i really like the changes, damage has obviously been increased and im cutting through monsters even faster ... but that never really was a problem was it SMILEY

Not much of a grouper, but agro seems easier. Only playing in small groups so dunno about raiding but i'm positive about the changes.

11-18-2008, 04:57 PM	#1
m421 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 35	How do you like the changes made to our class? not been able to play yet so im kinda curious! __________________

11-18-2008, 05:01 PM	#2
Sir Draymon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 20	I miss our pet /mourn the little bag of bones __________________ The quickest way to someone's heart, is through their chest.

11-19-2008, 02:53 AM	#5
Sir Draymon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 20	Yes, our pet is gone. The sacrament line is now a threat increase spell does increased threat and aoe damage. Nefarious Sacrament Adept 3 inflicts 1076-1610 disease dmg in targets AOE increases threat to targets in AOE 2973-3634 when target takes any dmg this spell has 33% to cast sacrifice on targets attacker increases threat priority by 1 position __________________ The quickest way to someone's heart, is through their chest.

11-19-2008, 08:34 AM	#7
DwarvesR General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,390	Why? It's much more useful now. __________________ Jonna - 78 Inquisitor, Keodan - 77 Fury, Elynna - 90 Coercer, Clarisse - 90 ShadowKnight, Gotter - 90 Warlock, Kyeda - 66 Necromancer, Spirrita - 66 Defiler, Darlana - 75 Dirge, Meylota - 54 Warden, Guuk - 60 Monk, Briarra - 55 Brigand, Dactylus - 51 Mystic

11-19-2008, 10:43 AM	#8
Blakkmantis Server: Everfrost Guild: Imperial Dragons Rank: Lieutenant Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Minnesota USA Posts: 448	The mediocre pet was replaced by a great new ability. If you want a pet buy a dog. This new skill rocks! __________________

11-18-2008, 06:45 PM	#3
Claymus Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 25	Maybe we will get a normal pet again, probably right after they put in beastlords.

11-19-2008, 02:17 AM	#4
Tygana Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Dragon Fodder Rank: Well Balanced Meal Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 170	They took the pet away?

11-19-2008, 06:56 AM	#6
Ritmanx Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 3	They took our fancy bonebag! I think that must be petiontated!

11-19-2008, 11:14 AM	#9
Kynre Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 120	So one more ability that will break mez??? Why not keep the bag of bone pet with an AOE taunt with the pet only damaging the targeted mob? __________________ Bladenkest: Dark Elf Shadowknight/Weaponsmith Alusyr: High Elf Defiler/Armorer Valaas: Dark Elf Assassin/Alchemist Alisza: Arasai Inquisitor/Jeweler Lieloo: Half Elf Monk/Tailor Ellifae: Fae Ranger/Woodworker Meybe: Arasai Warden/Provisioner Ilbryth: High Elf Illusionist/Sage Phyraun: Dark Elf Wizard/Carpenter Kaennja High Elf Necomancer Synifa Dark Elf BeastLord UNREST [Eternal Shadows]

11-19-2008, 11:52 AM	#10
mobydick Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	I petitioned...really liked using this pet for sustained damage during a large chunk of the fight. Stupid decision.

11-19-2008, 12:34 PM	#11
Kaarim Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada, Ontario Posts: 123	Ilbryth@Unrest wrote: So one more ability that will break mez??? Why not keep the bag of bone pet with an AOE taunt with the pet only damaging the targeted mob? if the target is mezzed you can aoe and not break them. It was a new change I believe back in one of the EoF live updates. __________________ I CONTROL MERCY!

11-19-2008, 02:36 PM	#12
Hysteric Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	mobydick wrote: I petitioned...really liked using this pet for sustained damage during a large chunk of the fight. Stupid decision. Your answer made me laugh. The new spell does more damage at one time then the pet would do if it stayed up the entire duration of the fight and actually lived to tell about it. The pet is not "more" sustained damage, it's low next to nothing damage. The new spell is great for tanking AoE fights (which Shadow Odyssey has ALOT) and a great addition to the "Tanking" Shadowknight. It even is great for a DPS SK if you have a capable tank with aggro transfers and snaps up. Great Decision __________________ Satris 90th Lvl Iksar Shadowknight

11-19-2008, 03:25 PM	#13
Lord Montague Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 541	Ilbryth@Unrest wrote: So one more ability that will break mez??? Why not keep the bag of bone pet with an AOE taunt with the pet only damaging the targeted mob? Ok that makes me laugh. I see no reason why this would break mezz unless it is cast right before the mezz and it procs a DoT somehow.

11-20-2008, 01:37 AM	#14
Shogun Warrior Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1	At this early stage I would say that the changes are nothing short of sensational. Attempting to hold aggro used to be a real challenge, often leading to the death of one or possibly more (insert DPS class here) group member. It was embarassing to have to tell them not to hit the mob until I felt that I had built enough aggro and then gave them the go ahead to do their job. I could picture them shaking their heads and making solemn promises to never group with a Shadowknight "Tank" again. Having now tanked a few of the new instances with a group consisting of two wizards, an assassin, warden and defiler, I can now hold aggro with normal taunts and plenty of damage, only occasionally having to resort to Rescue or Death Touch to pull a wayward mob. Both of these spells are now on sub 5 minute timers btw. This update has placed the Shadowknight where they should be. I still believe I could not raid-tank as well as a Guardian, and neither should I be able to. I have other utility that they do not. I can now call myself a tank and not just a tin-plated wizard.

11-20-2008, 05:52 AM	#15
Ghouti Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 192	From a solo point of view i can only say i really like the changes, damage has obviously been increased and im cutting through monsters even faster ... but that never really was a problem was it Not much of a grouper, but agro seems easier. Only playing in small groups so dunno about raiding but i'm positive about the changes. __________________