Tips on fighting at 50.

Pnaxx · 06-18-2008, 10:13 AM

Hey folks, I am dinging 50 soon and I know that is when I get Mezz of some sort...I think it is called Lullaby.

Anyways, I would like to take a moment to ask you all how you use it. I know the obvious, you click on the botton...lol. But lets go a bit further than that. Lets say I want to pull a tough mob to solo...

What is a good sequence to use in maximizing our stuff to have a mob near death by the time it even gets to us. Once we mezz, are there debuffs we can put on the mob that won't break mez? Anything like that...what do you all do?

So far, I am really njoying this class. I was with some players from another guild the other day in CT and I was told by the guild leader "it was nice to play with a Trouby that knows how to play one". Then he invited me to join his guild. So , I take pride in learning how best to play any char I play, which is really this and my 8oth Bruiser. I am not looking to have alot of toons, just a couple. So any help is appriciated and thanks for the help so far, it has made me much better than I would have been. I am speced MC sword and board with AGI line done and now am doing the STA Line and am working on the maxing out the Crit part of the line. I am noticing alot of nice double attacks and Crits already.

Anyways....I look forward to learning how to use out Lullaby.

Jesters · 06-18-2008, 11:09 AM

Really using your mez is just a timing thing, make sure you dont have any dots on the target mez it, back off and toss up the hp regen buff if you plan on debuffinfg it while its mezzed then you need to decast your aria buff and put it back up when ur rdy to fight again

and thats all there really is to it, if you have agi line that poison will proc when your debuffing so i wouldnt recommend debuffing while its mezzed if you do have the agi line

Sedenten · 06-18-2008, 05:24 PM

totaltinker wrote:

if you have agi line that poison will proc when your debuffing so i wouldnt recommend debuffing while its mezzed if you do have the agi line

This is not true. The AGI line proc only ever procs off of melee or ranged attacks--nothing spell based will proc it. None of our pure debuff songs will proc the AGI line proc at all. I have had the AGI line for months now and solo many heroic named using the mez/regen method, and have never, ever had this line proc on any of my debuffs.

If you have any gear or buffs up that proc on spell attacks, you'll need to remove them if you plan on debuffing a mezzed mob and keeping it mezzed in the process. You'll also need to click off/cancel any DoT's that are currently ticking, or they will break mez on the next tick. I also have "/autoattack 0" in my mez hotkey, just before the mez is cast. This ensures I turn off attack before the mez lands. If I am using ranged attacks. I make sure it is shut off before casting my mez (I do not know of a function that turns ranged autoattack on/off, but /autoattack is not it).

Also, keep in mind that cheap shot and our bellow line can help a bit on mez resists. With the cheap shot AA maxed I have just enough time to get mez off before the NPC can hit me again.

Pogopuschel · 06-19-2008, 08:27 AM

Sedenten wrote:

I also have "/autoattack 0" in my mez hotkey, just before the mez is cast. This ensures I turn off attack before the mez lands. If I am using ranged attacks. I make sure it is shut off before casting my mez (I do not know of a function that turns ranged autoattack on/off, but /autoattack is not it).

/autoattack 0 should turn off either auto-attack/autoattack 1 should turn on melee auto-attack/autoattack 2 should turn on ranged auto-attack

Pnaxx · 06-24-2008, 10:23 AM

So, is there a way to kill the mob before it even gets to you or at least have it way down in health? I havn't turned 50 yet...lol....I havn't had time to play alot recently...so just gearin up for 50. Thanks for your help.

Ballads · 07-02-2008, 02:24 AM

Sedenten wrote:

totaltinker wrote:
if you have agi line that poison will proc when your debuffing so i wouldnt recommend debuffing while its mezzed if you do have the agi line
This is not true. The AGI line proc only ever procs off of melee or ranged attacks--nothing spell based will proc it. None of our pure debuff songs will proc the AGI line proc at all. I have had the AGI line for months now and solo many heroic named using the mez/regen method, and have never, ever had this line proc on any of my debuffs.
If you have any gear or buffs up that proc on spell attacks, you'll need to remove them if you plan on debuffing a mezzed mob and keeping it mezzed in the process. You'll also need to click off/cancel any DoT's that are currently ticking, or they will break mez on the next tick. I also have "/autoattack 0" in my mez hotkey, just before the mez is cast. This ensures I turn off attack before the mez lands. If I am using ranged attacks. I make sure it is shut off before casting my mez (I do not know of a function that turns ranged autoattack on/off, but /autoattack is not it).
Also, keep in mind that cheap shot and our bellow line can help a bit on mez resists. With the cheap shot AA maxed I have just enough time to get mez off before the NPC can hit me again.

True but you are a little off as well, its not spell attacks you need to be weary about but stuff that procs on hostile spells that will break your mezzes. It can be a decent opener to mezz, with aria off, then stack debuffs. Myself i like to break mezz with another control effect and get in a few free hits before i have to chose to kite, or stand toe to toe with a mob. I find mezz most useful when i get adds tbh, Adds are a constant side effect o fclass that depends on kiting as much as we do for soloing.

06-18-2008, 05:24 PM	#3
Sedenten Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 680	totaltinker wrote: if you have agi line that poison will proc when your debuffing so i wouldnt recommend debuffing while its mezzed if you do have the agi line This is not true. The AGI line proc only ever procs off of melee or ranged attacks--nothing spell based will proc it. None of our pure debuff songs will proc the AGI line proc at all. I have had the AGI line for months now and solo many heroic named using the mez/regen method, and have never, ever had this line proc on any of my debuffs. If you have any gear or buffs up that proc on spell attacks, you'll need to remove them if you plan on debuffing a mezzed mob and keeping it mezzed in the process. You'll also need to click off/cancel any DoT's that are currently ticking, or they will break mez on the next tick. I also have "/autoattack 0" in my mez hotkey, just before the mez is cast. This ensures I turn off attack before the mez lands. If I am using ranged attacks. I make sure it is shut off before casting my mez (I do not know of a function that turns ranged autoattack on/off, but /autoattack is not it). Also, keep in mind that cheap shot and our bellow line can help a bit on mez resists. With the cheap shot AA maxed I have just enough time to get mez off before the NPC can hit me again.

06-19-2008, 08:27 AM	#4
Pogopuschel Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 408	Sedenten wrote: I also have "/autoattack 0" in my mez hotkey, just before the mez is cast. This ensures I turn off attack before the mez lands. If I am using ranged attacks. I make sure it is shut off before casting my mez (I do not know of a function that turns ranged autoattack on/off, but /autoattack is not it). /autoattack 0 should turn off either auto-attack/autoattack 1 should turn on melee auto-attack/autoattack 2 should turn on ranged auto-attack __________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Runnyeye.Luitgard, 80 Berserker - Member of Xanadu ... and a few alts... 80 Troubadour / 80 Dirge / 80 Ranger / 80 Warden / 80 Illusionist / 80 Mystic / 80 Necromancer / 80 Warlock / 80 Brigand

07-02-2008, 02:24 AM	#6
Ballads Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 264	Sedenten wrote: totaltinker wrote: if you have agi line that poison will proc when your debuffing so i wouldnt recommend debuffing while its mezzed if you do have the agi line This is not true. The AGI line proc only ever procs off of melee or ranged attacks--nothing spell based will proc it. None of our pure debuff songs will proc the AGI line proc at all. I have had the AGI line for months now and solo many heroic named using the mez/regen method, and have never, ever had this line proc on any of my debuffs. If you have any gear or buffs up that proc on spell attacks, you'll need to remove them if you plan on debuffing a mezzed mob and keeping it mezzed in the process. You'll also need to click off/cancel any DoT's that are currently ticking, or they will break mez on the next tick. I also have "/autoattack 0" in my mez hotkey, just before the mez is cast. This ensures I turn off attack before the mez lands. If I am using ranged attacks. I make sure it is shut off before casting my mez (I do not know of a function that turns ranged autoattack on/off, but /autoattack is not it). Also, keep in mind that cheap shot and our bellow line can help a bit on mez resists. With the cheap shot AA maxed I have just enough time to get mez off before the NPC can hit me again. True but you are a little off as well, its not spell attacks you need to be weary about but stuff that procs on hostile spells that will break your mezzes. It can be a decent opener to mezz, with aria off, then stack debuffs. Myself i like to break mezz with another control effect and get in a few free hits before i have to chose to kite, or stand toe to toe with a mob. I find mezz most useful when i get adds tbh, Adds are a constant side effect o fclass that depends on kiting as much as we do for soloing.

06-18-2008, 10:13 AM	#1
Pnaxx Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,124	Hey folks, I am dinging 50 soon and I know that is when I get Mezz of some sort...I think it is called Lullaby. Anyways, I would like to take a moment to ask you all how you use it. I know the obvious, you click on the botton...lol. But lets go a bit further than that. Lets say I want to pull a tough mob to solo... What is a good sequence to use in maximizing our stuff to have a mob near death by the time it even gets to us. Once we mezz, are there debuffs we can put on the mob that won't break mez? Anything like that...what do you all do? So far, I am really njoying this class. I was with some players from another guild the other day in CT and I was told by the guild leader "it was nice to play with a Trouby that knows how to play one". Then he invited me to join his guild. So , I take pride in learning how best to play any char I play, which is really this and my 8oth Bruiser. I am not looking to have alot of toons, just a couple. So any help is appriciated and thanks for the help so far, it has made me much better than I would have been. I am speced MC sword and board with AGI line done and now am doing the STA Line and am working on the maxing out the Crit part of the line. I am noticing alot of nice double attacks and Crits already. Anyways....I look forward to learning how to use out Lullaby.

06-18-2008, 11:09 AM	#2
Jesters Server: Mistmoore Guild: The Collective Rank: Inactive Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 44	Really using your mez is just a timing thing, make sure you dont have any dots on the target mez it, back off and toss up the hp regen buff if you plan on debuffinfg it while its mezzed then you need to decast your aria buff and put it back up when ur rdy to fight again and thats all there really is to it, if you have agi line that poison will proc when your debuffing so i wouldnt recommend debuffing while its mezzed if you do have the agi line

06-24-2008, 10:23 AM	#5
Pnaxx Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,124	So, is there a way to kill the mob before it even gets to you or at least have it way down in health? I havn't turned 50 yet...lol....I havn't had time to play alot recently...so just gearin up for 50. Thanks for your help.