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Unread 03-24-2008, 09:07 PM   #1
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Hey all, read though too many posts to count and haven't found an answer to my problem yet, hoping someone here will drop some knowledge on me.  I know enough about computers to get myself in trouble so keep it as simple as possible please.

On Extreme performance my FPS goes from 80 down to 6 every 5 seconds.  It does this from the second that i log on.  I have applied fixes recommended by the community to no avail (Updated drivers, removed firewall/anti-virus, in-game performance tweaks, ect...). 

My computer currently runs Vanguard/LOTRO with minimal issues.

Thank you for your help.

My computer specs is as follows (avg at best);

------------------System Information------------------Time of this report: 3/24/2008, 11:41:08       Machine name: XXXXXXX-XXXXXXXXX   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)System Manufacturer: MSI       System Model: MS-7350               BIOS: Default System BIOS          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6300  @ 1.86GHz (2 CPUs)             Memory: 2048MB RAM          Page File: 267MB used, 3674MB available        Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)DX Setup Parameters: Not found     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

------------DxDiag Notes------------  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.      Display Tab 1: No problems found.        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.          Music Tab: No problems found.          Input Tab: No problems found.        Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------DirectX Debug Levels--------------------Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

---------------Display Devices---------------        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT      Manufacturer: NVIDIA        Chip type: GeForce 7600 GT         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC       Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0391&SUBSYS_22201682&REV_A1   Display Memory: 256.0 MB     Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)          Monitor: ViewSonic VA1912w SERIES  Monitor Max Res: 1440,900      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6921 (English)      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 5773568 bytes      WHQL Logo'd: Yes  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a              VDD: n/a         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys    Mini VDD Date: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 7435392 bytesDevice Identifier: {D7B71E3E-40D1-11CF-3B6E-2B0200C2CB35}        Vendor ID: 0x10DE        Device ID: 0x0391        SubSys ID: 0x22201682      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A  Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch          Registry: OK     DDraw Status: Enabled       D3D Status: Enabled       AGP Status: EnabledDDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run

---------------Display Devices---------------        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT      Manufacturer: NVIDIA        Chip type: GeForce 7600 GT         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC       Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0391&SUBSYS_22201682&REV_A1   Display Memory: 256.0 MB     Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)          Monitor: ViewSonic VA1912w SERIES  Monitor Max Res: 1440,900      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6921 (English)      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 5773568 bytes      WHQL Logo'd: Yes  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a              VDD: n/a         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys    Mini VDD Date: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 7435392 bytesDevice Identifier: {D7B71E3E-40D1-11CF-3B6E-2B0200C2CB35}        Vendor ID: 0x10DE        Device ID: 0x0391        SubSys ID: 0x22201682      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A  Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch          Registry: OK     DDraw Status: Enabled       D3D Status: Enabled       AGP Status: EnabledDDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Unread 03-24-2008, 09:08 PM   #2
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-------------Sound Devices-------------            Description: Realtek HD Audio output Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: Yes            Hardware ID: HDAUDIOFUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_14627350&REV_1000        Manufacturer ID: 1             Product ID: 100                   Type: WDM            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5345 (English)      Driver Attributes: Final Retail            WHQL Logo'd: Yes          Date and Size: 12/21/2006 03:26:00, 4405248 bytes            Other Files:         Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.         HW Accel Level: Full              Cap Flags: 0xF5F    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32              HW Memory: 0       Voice Management: No EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, YesSensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No               Registry: OK      Sound Test Result: Not run

---------------------Sound Capture Devices---------------------            Description: Realtek HD Audio Input  Default Sound Capture: Yes  Default Voice Capture: Yes            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5345 (English)      Driver Attributes: Final Retail          Date and Size: 12/21/2006 03:26:00, 4405248 bytes              Cap Flags: 0x41           Format Flags: 0xFFF

-----------DirectMusic-----------        DLS Path: C:WINDOWSSYSTEM32driversGM.DLS     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002    Acceleration: n/a           Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal        Registry: OK     Test Result: Not run

-------------------DirectInput Devices-------------------      Device Name: Mouse         Attached: 1    Controller ID: n/aVendor/Product ID: n/a        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard         Attached: 1    Controller ID: n/aVendor/Product ID: n/a        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No         Registry: OK

-----------USB Devices-----------+ USB Root Hub| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x026D| Matching Device ID: usbroot_hub| Service: usbhub| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 01:08:42, 57600 bytes| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/18/2001 07:00:00, 4736 bytes| +-+ Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0040| | Location: Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)| | Matching Device ID: usbvid_045e&pid_0040| | Service: HidUsb| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:08:19, 36224 bytes| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 8/4/2004 01:08:16, 24960 bytes| | Driver: hid.dll, 8/4/2004 02:56:42, 20992 bytes| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 8/18/2001 07:00:00, 9600 bytes| | | +-+ Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0040| | | Matching Device ID: hidvid_045e&pid_0040| | | Service: mouhid| | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 00:58:32, 23040 bytes| | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/18/2001 07:00:00, 12160 bytes

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Unread 03-24-2008, 09:12 PM   #3
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Maybe try to enable Vsync? That will help keep the high fluctuations down...but so far, nothing looks strange hereHave you checked your Ping rates also..?Good luck on this
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Unread 03-24-2008, 11:17 PM   #4
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There was a slight change.  Instead of the Fps going up and down every 5 sec, it's lasting 15 sec.  The ping rate goes from 168 to 386, dunno if thats indicates a problem or not.  The Bps is all over the place, it's been varying from 500 to over 3k.
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bascboys wrote:
There was a slight change.  Instead of the Fps going up and down every 5 sec, it's lasting 15 sec.  The ping rate goes from 168 to 386, dunno if thats indicates a problem or not.  The Bps is all over the place, it's been varying from 500 to over 3k.
Ok...varying BPS is ok...the Ping rates not so much.What are you doing when the Ping jumps like that? Try to track if you are in combat, other people come into the scene, etc. Stand in one place and see if the ping fluctuates (I usually stare at a wall so nothing causes an issue)...and if they do, then something else is causing a problem...Good luck
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6. Specific City crashes with 4 gig (Neriak and Kelethin) and Zek ((**FIXED**))
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Try opening your Task Manager in Windows, and see if every 15 secs you also have any process suddenly spiking your CPU usage for a short period of time while EQ2 is running.  You can also do the same on the Network monitor page (also accessible through the Task Manager window).
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Yep, thats happening.  Just went in-game, my FPS is getting up to 125, the CPU usage is at around 50-52%.  When my FPS drops to 5 my CPU usage bounces around 70-95%.  My Network Utilization isn't really doing anything its at 0% and goes to .01% randomly.   It says my Link Speed is 100 Mbps.
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bascboys wrote:
Yep, thats happening.  Just went in-game, my FPS is getting up to 125, the CPU usage is at around 50-52%.  When my FPS drops to 5 my CPU usage bounces around 70-95%.  My Network Utilization isn't really doing anything its at 0% and goes to .01% randomly.   It says my Link Speed is 100 Mbps.
Sort the process column by CPU percentage used.  When you get the spikes what do you see taking up a lot of CPU time (aside from Everquest2.exe)?
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Looking at the "Processes" Tab in Task Manager; 

1.  When FPS is high EverQuest2.exe is reading CPU 50

2. When FPS is high System Idle Process is reading CPU 49

1.  When FPS is low EverQuest2.exe is reading CPU 38

2.  When FPS is low Ststem Idke Process  is reading CPU 58

(These aren't constant numbers +/- 2)

Have a couple other programs running Task manager and internet explorer, the CPU didn't move when my fps spiked or lagged.

Thanks for takin the time to help out.

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bascboys wrote:

Looking at the "Processes" Tab in Task Manager; 

1.  When FPS is high EverQuest2.exe is reading CPU 50

2. When FPS is high System Idle Process is reading CPU 49

1.  When FPS is low EverQuest2.exe is reading CPU 38

2.  When FPS is low Ststem Idke Process  is reading CPU 58

(These aren't constant numbers +/- 2)

Have a couple other programs running Task manager and internet explorer, the CPU didn't move when my fps spiked or lagged.

Thanks for takin the time to help out.

According to the numbers you have posted, your CPU usage is actually decreasing when your DPS is low, not increasing (I'm assuming that Ststem Idke was a typo, and = System Idle?).  System Idle is the CPU processing that isn't used by anything - therefore if those numbers are accurate, your CPU usage is dropping to 38% during spikes.  Look again - whenever you actually hit those 90% CPU usage spikes, you should have something more along the lines of:Everquest2.exe around 35-50% around 40-50% or moreSystem Idle around 0-10%That is what you need to spot.
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