What are the highlights for GU41...

Dragowulf · 12-03-2007, 03:28 AM

and when should it be on test? (f anyones knows)thanksdrago.

Anordil · 12-03-2007, 03:04 PM

Arrgh. I know. I've been anxiously awaiting info on Frostfell related things... and then Domino has me keyed to fever pitch and wriggling about after dropping some really tantalizing hints. When will we know? Eeeee!

Jesdyr · 12-03-2007, 03:48 PM

Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote:

... and then Domino

I love Domino ... but she is a total tease SMILEY

Anordil · 12-03-2007, 05:00 PM

Jesdyr@Unrest wrote:

Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote:
... and then Domino
I love Domino ... but she is a total tease " width="15" height="15" />

QFT! hehe

Kaycerzan · 12-03-2007, 05:26 PM

Highlights for GU41... Treasured items are being nerfed ~ they were never intended to be useful. Anaphylaxis items are being nerfed ~ because the quest is so easy we just can't have good 2h items making it into the game.Other notes: Repeatedly nerfing any item or AA used by more than 3% of the community, because if that's the case it MUST be overpowered. Nerfing xp of all kinds further, now that the race to 80 has been met by what we feel is enough people. Further de-itemizing of crusader / brawler / plate + chain healer equipment. Turns out they found some T8 stuff to be wearable. ~~Frostfell has been canceled this year so we could make up for time lost to the fires.~~ Just joking, we'd never threaten to make good use of our time.

Barbai · 12-03-2007, 08:09 PM

Estovia@Permafrost wrote:

Highlights for GU41... Treasured items are being nerfed ~ they were never intended to be useful. Anaphylaxis items are being nerfed ~ because the quest is so easy we just can't have good 2h items making it into the game.Other notes: Repeatedly nerfing any item or AA used by more than 3% of the community, because if that's the case it MUST be overpowered. Nerfing xp of all kinds further, now that the race to 80 has been met by what we feel is enough people. Further de-itemizing of crusader / brawler / plate + chain healer equipment. Turns out they found some T8 stuff to be wearable. ~~Frostfell has been canceled this year so we could make up for time lost to the fires.~~ Just joking, we'd never threaten to make good use of our time.

wow a troll rat is that a new breed?In all seriousness 41 should be interesting but between upcoming holidays and expansion problems coming up I am guessing that it won't be in till later end of the month.

Vonotar · 12-04-2007, 02:28 PM

Estovia@Permafrost wrote:

Highlights for GU41... Treasured items are being nerfed ~ they were never intended to be useful. Anaphylaxis items are being nerfed ~ because the quest is so easy we just can't have good 2h items making it into the game.Other notes: Repeatedly nerfing any item or AA used by more than 3% of the community, because if that's the case it MUST be overpowered. Nerfing xp of all kinds further, now that the race to 80 has been met by what we feel is enough people. Further de-itemizing of crusader / brawler / plate + chain healer equipment. Turns out they found some T8 stuff to be wearable. ~~Frostfell has been canceled this year so we could make up for time lost to the fires.~~ Just joking, we'd never threaten to make good use of our time.

You forgot to add...Fixing the zoning lag by merging all old world overland zones into 1 mega zone

Supp · 12-04-2007, 03:32 PM

Estovia@Permafrost wrote:

Further de-itemizing of crusader / brawler / plate + chain healer equipment. Turns out they found some T8 stuff to be wearable.

HAHAHAHA!!!

I love it!

ShinGoku · 12-04-2007, 03:34 PM

GU41 presents... The long awaited Monk and Bruiser Brawler AA revamp!Yeah well, I can dream can't I?

Draigo · 12-05-2007, 07:48 AM

MULTI QUEST TRACKING !

Devilsbane · 12-05-2007, 01:08 PM

Draigo wrote:

MULTI QUEST TRACKING !

Would be nice, although they would then have to fix the current quest tracking bugs.

DMIstar · 12-05-2007, 05:50 PM

Seriously They have a lot to work on at this point... Epic weapons one of them, Alot of people are 80, VP has been entered.. So pretty much theres a good portion of the player base now ready for them already. I dont know how long They wanted to post pone them.AA respec box has been postponed and no clue whats going on with that.Plane of hate has been mentioned, but is it on hold ? Frost fell is around the corner, and I think at a very bad time for it come. but nothing can be done on that....as well as background projects going on such as the Spell Consolidation thats being worked on.. Guild Halls, and stuff like kurns tower. But yet so far only thing ive heard is treasured and Quest nerfs... Im just hopeing the nerf project is not postponeing the above stuff.

Dragowulf · 12-05-2007, 06:02 PM

Istar@Mistmoore wrote:

Seriously They have a lot to work on at this point... Epic weapons one of them, Alot of people are 80, VP has been entered.. So pretty much theres a good portion of the player base now ready for them already. I dont know how long They wanted to post pone them.AA respec box has been postponed and no clue whats going on with that.Plane of hate has been mentioned, but is it on hold ? Frost fell is around the corner, and I think at a very bad time for it come. but nothing can be done on that....as well as background projects going on such as the Spell Consolidation thats being worked on.. Guild Halls, and stuff like kurns tower. But yet so far only thing ive heard is treasured and Quest nerfs... Im just hopeing the nerf project is not postponeing the above stuff.and skeletal structure revamp for characters

Giral · 12-06-2007, 05:04 PM

Im wondering if the skeleton revamp has been thrown out as a bad idea, it seemed Vanguard was coming out and the Skeleton model with shrinking armor was a good idea , BUT was it realy ?

i know they said that the skeletal revamp would be a Huge undertaking, and then they release the Sarnaks ,,,, Sarnaks are gangley and severly hunched over, the only thing i could compare them skeletaly to would be a Troll that is stuck on a 45 degree angle, it seems counter productive for them to have created a race like the sarnaks IF they wanted to go with 4 Basic skeletons for all the Races.

Maybe they are doing the skeletal models in small , meduim, large , and Gangly SMILEY<img src= " width="15" height="15" />

seems all but Trolls Sarnaks and froglocks could fit into a standerd skeleton

and then looking at the Iksar skeletons they introduced in rok, why go thru the trouble of creating Mobs like iksar skeletons in the game if they are giong to have to revamp them to fit into a new model in a few months ?

anyway just wondering, i do hope they introduce the 4 new skeleton models so it free's up Dev time to work on better Itemization for ALL Armor Types : P , instead of the LAZY approuch of " well All classes can wear This gear so it was EASIER for me to just make that Junk gear , then actualy Make Gear designed for YOUR class that YOU chose to play " ( yeah i have a Plate healer and i am [Removed for Content] at 1/4 the amount of gear for my class in ROK)

Themaginator · 12-06-2007, 05:08 PM

well this seems to be a very boring updatenothing big nothing really new except the AA storage thing Lame

Themaginator · 12-06-2007, 05:09 PM

Giralus wrote:

Im wondering if the skeleton revamp has been thrown out as a bad idea, it seemed Vanguard was coming out and the Skeleton model with shrinking armor was a good idea , BUT was it realy ?
i know they said that the skeletal revamp would be a Huge undertaking, and then they release the Sarnaks ,,,, Sarnaks are gangley and severly hunched over, the only thing i could compare them skeletaly to would be a Troll that is stuck on a 45 degree angle, it seems counter productive for them to have created a race like the sarnaks IF they wanted to go with 4 Basic skeletons for all the Races.
Maybe they are doing the skeletal models in small , meduim, large , and Gangly " width="15" height="15" />
seems all but Trolls Sarnaks and froglocks could fit into a standerd skeleton
and then looking at the Iksar skeletons they introduced in rok, why go thru the trouble of creating Mobs like iksar skeletons in the game if they are giong to have to revamp them to fit into a new model in a few months ?
anyway just wondering, i do hope they introduce the 4 new skeleton models so it free's up Dev time to work on better Itemization for ALL Armor Types : P , instead of the LAZY approuch of " well All classes can wear This gear so it was EASIER for me to just make that Junk gear , then actualy Make Gear designed for YOUR class that YOU chose to play " ( yeah i have a Plate healer and i am [Removed for Content] at 1/4 the amount of gear for my class in ROK)

nah it wasnt thrown out heck they were talking about it on the Beta forums for RoK up until the forums closed (Devs were there to i mpromise =) )

Excalibre33 · 12-06-2007, 06:57 PM

Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote:

well this seems to be a very boring updatenothing big nothing really new except the AA storage thing Lame

It's not too bad, in all reality, and almost entirely good news actually. Crafters have a bunch of presents this Frostfell, not the least of which being the return of harvesting while under attack.

Xehl · 12-06-2007, 07:46 PM

Giralus wrote:

Im wondering if the skeleton revamp has been thrown out as a bad idea, it seemed Vanguard was coming out and the Skeleton model with shrinking armor was a good idea , BUT was it realy ?
i know they said that the skeletal revamp would be a Huge undertaking, and then they release the Sarnaks ,,,, Sarnaks are gangley and severly hunched over, the only thing i could compare them skeletaly to would be a Troll that is stuck on a 45 degree angle, it seems counter productive for them to have created a race like the sarnaks IF they wanted to go with 4 Basic skeletons for all the Races.
Maybe they are doing the skeletal models in small , meduim, large , and Gangly " width="15" height="15" />
seems all but Trolls Sarnaks and froglocks could fit into a standerd skeleton
and then looking at the Iksar skeletons they introduced in rok, why go thru the trouble of creating Mobs like iksar skeletons in the game if they are giong to have to revamp them to fit into a new model in a few months ?

It hasn't been thrown out, the system is actually in place. All that's left is to convert the models of the old races to the new system. The Sarnaks are the first race to use this system, made with the human skeleton. What you are thinking of is the shape of the model, which is not the same thing as a skeleton.

Snowdonia · 12-06-2007, 08:08 PM

You want a highlight? THIS is a highlight!!!You can harvest once again while under attack from an NPC

sliderhouserules · 12-07-2007, 05:13 AM

Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:

You want a highlight? THIS is a highlight!!!You can harvest once again while under attack from an NPC

HUZZAH!!!

TheSpin · 12-07-2007, 06:28 AM

Giralus wrote:

Im wondering if the skeleton revamp has been thrown out as a bad idea, it seemed Vanguard was coming out and the Skeleton model with shrinking armor was a good idea , BUT was it realy ?
i know they said that the skeletal revamp would be a Huge undertaking, and then they release the Sarnaks ,,,, Sarnaks are gangley and severly hunched over, the only thing i could compare them skeletaly to would be a Troll that is stuck on a 45 degree angle, it seems counter productive for them to have created a race like the sarnaks IF they wanted to go with 4 Basic skeletons for all the Races.
Maybe they are doing the skeletal models in small , meduim, large , and Gangly " width="15" height="15">
seems all but Trolls Sarnaks and froglocks could fit into a standerd skeleton
and then looking at the Iksar skeletons they introduced in rok, why go thru the trouble of creating Mobs like iksar skeletons in the game if they are giong to have to revamp them to fit into a new model in a few months ?
anyway just wondering, i do hope they introduce the 4 new skeleton models so it free's up Dev time to work on better Itemization for ALL Armor Types : P , instead of the LAZY approuch of " well All classes can wear This gear so it was EASIER for me to just make that Junk gear , then actualy Make Gear designed for YOUR class that YOU chose to play " ( yeah i have a Plate healer and i am [Removed for Content] at 1/4 the amount of gear for my class in ROK)

The new models won't completely redesign the looks you are used to seeing in the game. They are upgrading the technology so that they can do more with them with less resources, but it won't be like loggin into a completely new game. Sarnaks are a pretty good example of this because they use the new skeleton. I believe that the sarnak skeleton is what allows Gorowyn to be such a compact city because there are tons of npcs there but the lag isn't too bad.

If you take a close look at the sarnak, their torso and legs are actually pretty normal. I think most male races have basically the same torso with the exception of dwarfs, halflings and ogres who are a little rounder in the middle. The two main reasons for the new skeletons is to make armor easier to design and cut down on resources for drawing characters. Any other reason you have been led to believe is a myth, or a perk, but not really the purpose.

Domino · 12-07-2007, 05:08 PM

Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote:

Arrgh. I know. I've been anxiously awaiting info on Frostfell related things... and then Domino has me keyed to fever pitch and wriggling about after dropping some really tantalizing hints. When will we know? Eeeee!

Zeltaria · 12-07-2007, 05:20 PM

It has come to my attention that Tradeskillers have no diety of which to call their own..... But if I might be so bold, I think if there ever was one.... she should be called Domino. SMILEY

/swoons at the table settings & candles

Junaru · 12-07-2007, 05:21 PM

Haha nice screen shot Domino

Krystara · 12-07-2007, 05:53 PM

oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

Plate? Cup? Candle?

*faints from sheer excitement*

Snowdonia · 12-07-2007, 08:44 PM

And tankards and is that a new XMas robe we might be able to craft?*drooool*

Howlingmoon · 12-07-2007, 11:46 PM

The tankards might just be the HQ mug.

Domino · 12-08-2007, 12:13 AM

The above screenshot is certified to be Heritage Quest Free. Not to mention sodium free, low cholesterol, low calorie, and suitable for dairy-free diets. SMILEY

There will be some new robes craftable in the Frostfell instance this year, although the one shown above is not one of them. Folks keeping their eyes open and their ears peeled to the newbie channels may however find that some of the volunteer Guides can be shaken down (gently please!) for a few extra Frostfell surprises also that aren't obtainable anywhere else.

Kayteekai · 12-08-2007, 01:39 AM

When is Frostfell estimated to go live? I have my candy cane staff from last year ready for the guides SMILEY

j/k

Zabjade · 12-08-2007, 02:00 AM

I also see goblets and tankards, plates and cups....hmmmm. I also left some feedback about Saving Frostfell for lowbies (who get one-shoted in Steamfront) in game. as well as exiting the Wonderland.

12-03-2007, 03:28 AM	#1
Dragowulf Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California, United States of America Posts: 763	and when should it be on test? (f anyones knows)thanksdrago. __________________

12-03-2007, 03:48 PM	#3
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote: ... and then Domino I love Domino ... but she is a total tease

12-03-2007, 05:00 PM	#4
Anordil Server: Lucan DLere Guild: The Order of the Silver Tree Rank: Chancellor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 498	Jesdyr@Unrest wrote: Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote: ... and then Domino I love Domino ... but she is a total tease " width="15" height="15" /> QFT! hehe

12-03-2007, 05:26 PM	#5
Kaycerzan Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 212	Highlights for GU41... Treasured items are being nerfed ~ they were never intended to be useful. Anaphylaxis items are being nerfed ~ because the quest is so easy we just can't have good 2h items making it into the game.Other notes: Repeatedly nerfing any item or AA used by more than 3% of the community, because if that's the case it MUST be overpowered. Nerfing xp of all kinds further, now that the race to 80 has been met by what we feel is enough people. Further de-itemizing of crusader / brawler / plate + chain healer equipment. Turns out they found some T8 stuff to be wearable. ~~Frostfell has been canceled this year so we could make up for time lost to the fires.~~ Just joking, we'd never threaten to make good use of our time. __________________

12-03-2007, 08:09 PM	#6
Barbai Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 724	Estovia@Permafrost wrote: Highlights for GU41... Treasured items are being nerfed ~ they were never intended to be useful. Anaphylaxis items are being nerfed ~ because the quest is so easy we just can't have good 2h items making it into the game.Other notes: Repeatedly nerfing any item or AA used by more than 3% of the community, because if that's the case it MUST be overpowered. Nerfing xp of all kinds further, now that the race to 80 has been met by what we feel is enough people. Further de-itemizing of crusader / brawler / plate + chain healer equipment. Turns out they found some T8 stuff to be wearable. ~~Frostfell has been canceled this year so we could make up for time lost to the fires.~~ Just joking, we'd never threaten to make good use of our time. wow a troll rat is that a new breed?In all seriousness 41 should be interesting but between upcoming holidays and expansion problems coming up I am guessing that it won't be in till later end of the month. __________________

12-03-2007, 03:04 PM	#2
Anordil Server: Lucan DLere Guild: The Order of the Silver Tree Rank: Chancellor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 498	Arrgh. I know. I've been anxiously awaiting info on Frostfell related things... and then Domino has me keyed to fever pitch and wriggling about after dropping some really tantalizing hints. When will we know? Eeeee!

12-04-2007, 02:28 PM	#7
Vonotar Server: Butcherblock Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,697	Estovia@Permafrost wrote: Highlights for GU41... Treasured items are being nerfed ~ they were never intended to be useful. Anaphylaxis items are being nerfed ~ because the quest is so easy we just can't have good 2h items making it into the game.Other notes: Repeatedly nerfing any item or AA used by more than 3% of the community, because if that's the case it MUST be overpowered. Nerfing xp of all kinds further, now that the race to 80 has been met by what we feel is enough people. Further de-itemizing of crusader / brawler / plate + chain healer equipment. Turns out they found some T8 stuff to be wearable. ~~Frostfell has been canceled this year so we could make up for time lost to the fires.~~ Just joking, we'd never threaten to make good use of our time. You forgot to add...Fixing the zoning lag by merging all old world overland zones into 1 mega zone

12-04-2007, 03:32 PM	#8
Supp General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 687	Estovia@Permafrost wrote: Further de-itemizing of crusader / brawler / plate + chain healer equipment. Turns out they found some T8 stuff to be wearable. HAHAHAHA!!! I love it! __________________ 80 Barbarian Necromancer \| 139 AA \| 380 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Fae Warlock \| 135 AA \| 400 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Teir'Dal Bruiser \| 132 AA \| 76 Carpenter \| 350 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Arasai Mystic \| 132 AA \| 370 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 71 Barbarian Guardian \| 108 AA \| 350 Muter of Antonia Bayle 70 Teir'Dal Fury \| 81 AA \| 80 Sage \| 400 Transmuter of Antonia Bayle 61 Sarnak Ranger \| 75 AA of Antonia Bayle Betrayals: Bruiser (2) \| Fury (1) \| Warlock (2) \| Mystic (1) \| Guardian (1) \| Ranger (1) \| Others (3)

12-04-2007, 03:34 PM	#9
ShinGoku Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK Posts: 627	GU41 presents... The long awaited Monk and Bruiser Brawler AA revamp!Yeah well, I can dream can't I?

12-05-2007, 07:48 AM	#10
Draigo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	MULTI QUEST TRACKING ! __________________ Gnasti \| Kikyah Putting the rat in Norrath

12-05-2007, 01:08 PM	#11
Devilsbane Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 583	Draigo wrote: MULTI QUEST TRACKING ! Would be nice, although they would then have to fix the current quest tracking bugs. __________________

12-05-2007, 05:50 PM	#12
DMIstar Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 787	Seriously They have a lot to work on at this point... Epic weapons one of them, Alot of people are 80, VP has been entered.. So pretty much theres a good portion of the player base now ready for them already. I dont know how long They wanted to post pone them.AA respec box has been postponed and no clue whats going on with that.Plane of hate has been mentioned, but is it on hold ? Frost fell is around the corner, and I think at a very bad time for it come. but nothing can be done on that....as well as background projects going on such as the Spell Consolidation thats being worked on.. Guild Halls, and stuff like kurns tower. But yet so far only thing ive heard is treasured and Quest nerfs... Im just hopeing the nerf project is not postponeing the above stuff.

12-05-2007, 06:02 PM	#13
Dragowulf Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California, United States of America Posts: 763	Istar@Mistmoore wrote: Seriously They have a lot to work on at this point... Epic weapons one of them, Alot of people are 80, VP has been entered.. So pretty much theres a good portion of the player base now ready for them already. I dont know how long They wanted to post pone them.AA respec box has been postponed and no clue whats going on with that.Plane of hate has been mentioned, but is it on hold ? Frost fell is around the corner, and I think at a very bad time for it come. but nothing can be done on that....as well as background projects going on such as the Spell Consolidation thats being worked on.. Guild Halls, and stuff like kurns tower. But yet so far only thing ive heard is treasured and Quest nerfs... Im just hopeing the nerf project is not postponeing the above stuff.and skeletal structure revamp for characters __________________

12-06-2007, 05:04 PM	#14
Giral General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 894	Im wondering if the skeleton revamp has been thrown out as a bad idea, it seemed Vanguard was coming out and the Skeleton model with shrinking armor was a good idea , BUT was it realy ? i know they said that the skeletal revamp would be a Huge undertaking, and then they release the Sarnaks ,,,, Sarnaks are gangley and severly hunched over, the only thing i could compare them skeletaly to would be a Troll that is stuck on a 45 degree angle, it seems counter productive for them to have created a race like the sarnaks IF they wanted to go with 4 Basic skeletons for all the Races. Maybe they are doing the skeletal models in small , meduim, large , and Gangly " width="15" height="15" /> seems all but Trolls Sarnaks and froglocks could fit into a standerd skeleton and then looking at the Iksar skeletons they introduced in rok, why go thru the trouble of creating Mobs like iksar skeletons in the game if they are giong to have to revamp them to fit into a new model in a few months ? anyway just wondering, i do hope they introduce the 4 new skeleton models so it free's up Dev time to work on better Itemization for ALL Armor Types : P , instead of the LAZY approuch of " well All classes can wear This gear so it was EASIER for me to just make that Junk gear , then actualy Make Gear designed for YOUR class that YOU chose to play " ( yeah i have a Plate healer and i am [Removed for Content] at 1/4 the amount of gear for my class in ROK) __________________ who's more of a Fool, the fool or the fool who follows the fool. . . Account Terminated as of 12-27-08, RMT=Evil

12-06-2007, 05:08 PM	#15
Themaginator Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 833	well this seems to be a very boring updatenothing big nothing really new except the AA storage thing Lame

12-06-2007, 05:09 PM	#16
Themaginator Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 833	Giralus wrote: Im wondering if the skeleton revamp has been thrown out as a bad idea, it seemed Vanguard was coming out and the Skeleton model with shrinking armor was a good idea , BUT was it realy ? i know they said that the skeletal revamp would be a Huge undertaking, and then they release the Sarnaks ,,,, Sarnaks are gangley and severly hunched over, the only thing i could compare them skeletaly to would be a Troll that is stuck on a 45 degree angle, it seems counter productive for them to have created a race like the sarnaks IF they wanted to go with 4 Basic skeletons for all the Races. Maybe they are doing the skeletal models in small , meduim, large , and Gangly " width="15" height="15" /> seems all but Trolls Sarnaks and froglocks could fit into a standerd skeleton and then looking at the Iksar skeletons they introduced in rok, why go thru the trouble of creating Mobs like iksar skeletons in the game if they are giong to have to revamp them to fit into a new model in a few months ? anyway just wondering, i do hope they introduce the 4 new skeleton models so it free's up Dev time to work on better Itemization for ALL Armor Types : P , instead of the LAZY approuch of " well All classes can wear This gear so it was EASIER for me to just make that Junk gear , then actualy Make Gear designed for YOUR class that YOU chose to play " ( yeah i have a Plate healer and i am [Removed for Content] at 1/4 the amount of gear for my class in ROK) nah it wasnt thrown out heck they were talking about it on the Beta forums for RoK up until the forums closed (Devs were there to i mpromise =) )

12-06-2007, 06:57 PM	#17
Excalibre33 General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 375	Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote: well this seems to be a very boring updatenothing big nothing really new except the AA storage thing Lame It's not too bad, in all reality, and almost entirely good news actually. Crafters have a bunch of presents this Frostfell, not the least of which being the return of harvesting while under attack. __________________

12-06-2007, 07:46 PM	#18
Xehl Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 19	Giralus wrote: Im wondering if the skeleton revamp has been thrown out as a bad idea, it seemed Vanguard was coming out and the Skeleton model with shrinking armor was a good idea , BUT was it realy ? i know they said that the skeletal revamp would be a Huge undertaking, and then they release the Sarnaks ,,,, Sarnaks are gangley and severly hunched over, the only thing i could compare them skeletaly to would be a Troll that is stuck on a 45 degree angle, it seems counter productive for them to have created a race like the sarnaks IF they wanted to go with 4 Basic skeletons for all the Races. Maybe they are doing the skeletal models in small , meduim, large , and Gangly " width="15" height="15" /> seems all but Trolls Sarnaks and froglocks could fit into a standerd skeleton and then looking at the Iksar skeletons they introduced in rok, why go thru the trouble of creating Mobs like iksar skeletons in the game if they are giong to have to revamp them to fit into a new model in a few months ? It hasn't been thrown out, the system is actually in place. All that's left is to convert the models of the old races to the new system. The Sarnaks are the first race to use this system, made with the human skeleton. What you are thinking of is the shape of the model, which is not the same thing as a skeleton. __________________

12-06-2007, 08:08 PM	#19
Snowdonia Server: Runnyeye Guild: Majestic Rank: Mistress Tester Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 2,212	You want a highlight? THIS is a highlight!!!You can harvest once again while under attack from an NPC

12-07-2007, 05:13 AM	#20
sliderhouserules Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rocky Mountains, USA Posts: 519	Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote: You want a highlight? THIS is a highlight!!!You can harvest once again while under attack from an NPC HUZZAH!!!

12-07-2007, 06:28 AM	#21
TheSpin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,587	Giralus wrote: Im wondering if the skeleton revamp has been thrown out as a bad idea, it seemed Vanguard was coming out and the Skeleton model with shrinking armor was a good idea , BUT was it realy ? i know they said that the skeletal revamp would be a Huge undertaking, and then they release the Sarnaks ,,,, Sarnaks are gangley and severly hunched over, the only thing i could compare them skeletaly to would be a Troll that is stuck on a 45 degree angle, it seems counter productive for them to have created a race like the sarnaks IF they wanted to go with 4 Basic skeletons for all the Races. Maybe they are doing the skeletal models in small , meduim, large , and Gangly " width="15" height="15"> seems all but Trolls Sarnaks and froglocks could fit into a standerd skeleton and then looking at the Iksar skeletons they introduced in rok, why go thru the trouble of creating Mobs like iksar skeletons in the game if they are giong to have to revamp them to fit into a new model in a few months ? anyway just wondering, i do hope they introduce the 4 new skeleton models so it free's up Dev time to work on better Itemization for ALL Armor Types : P , instead of the LAZY approuch of " well All classes can wear This gear so it was EASIER for me to just make that Junk gear , then actualy Make Gear designed for YOUR class that YOU chose to play " ( yeah i have a Plate healer and i am [Removed for Content] at 1/4 the amount of gear for my class in ROK) The new models won't completely redesign the looks you are used to seeing in the game. They are upgrading the technology so that they can do more with them with less resources, but it won't be like loggin into a completely new game. Sarnaks are a pretty good example of this because they use the new skeleton. I believe that the sarnak skeleton is what allows Gorowyn to be such a compact city because there are tons of npcs there but the lag isn't too bad. If you take a close look at the sarnak, their torso and legs are actually pretty normal. I think most male races have basically the same torso with the exception of dwarfs, halflings and ogres who are a little rounder in the middle. The two main reasons for the new skeletons is to make armor easier to design and cut down on resources for drawing characters. Any other reason you have been led to believe is a myth, or a perk, but not really the purpose.

12-07-2007, 05:08 PM	#22
Domino Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,046	Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote: Arrgh. I know. I've been anxiously awaiting info on Frostfell related things... and then Domino has me keyed to fever pitch and wriggling about after dropping some really tantalizing hints. When will we know? Eeeee!

12-07-2007, 05:20 PM	#23
Zeltaria Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 189	It has come to my attention that Tradeskillers have no diety of which to call their own..... But if I might be so bold, I think if there ever was one.... she should be called Domino. /swoons at the table settings & candles __________________

12-07-2007, 05:21 PM	#24
Junaru Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,471	Haha nice screen shot Domino __________________

12-07-2007, 05:53 PM	#25
Krystara Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 403	oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh Plate? Cup? Candle? faints from sheer excitement

12-07-2007, 08:44 PM	#26
Snowdonia Server: Runnyeye Guild: Majestic Rank: Mistress Tester Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 2,212	And tankards and is that a new XMas robe we might be able to craft?drooool

12-07-2007, 11:46 PM	#27
Howlingmoon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 522	The tankards might just be the HQ mug. __________________ ~~Moonie Sorrows End Guild Website And Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will. What's meant to be will always find a way. Never put off 'til tomorrow what you can put off 'til next week.

12-08-2007, 12:13 AM	#28
Domino Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,046	The above screenshot is certified to be Heritage Quest Free. Not to mention sodium free, low cholesterol, low calorie, and suitable for dairy-free diets. There will be some new robes craftable in the Frostfell instance this year, although the one shown above is not one of them. Folks keeping their eyes open and their ears peeled to the newbie channels may however find that some of the volunteer Guides can be shaken down (gently please!) for a few extra Frostfell surprises also that aren't obtainable anywhere else.

12-08-2007, 01:39 AM	#29
Kayteekai Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 35	When is Frostfell estimated to go live? I have my candy cane staff from last year ready for the guides j/k __________________

12-08-2007, 02:00 AM	#30
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	I also see goblets and tankards, plates and cups....hmmmm. I also left some feedback about Saving Frostfell for lowbies (who get one-shoted in Steamfront) in game. as well as exiting the Wonderland. __________________