Proc Buff -- Bug or Ninja Nerf?

FrozenFrostbeard · 11-20-2007, 01:26 AM

i've been keeping an eye on my proc buffs, much like the scouts do for their poisons.

int gear used to work... now, i dont know.

All current proc buffs, are scaling down damage wise when i change stances and gear. they do not, however, scale back up when i put higher int gear back on. So, if you're swapping from tank to dps, you'll have to recast your proc buffs when you put the other gear on, in order to receive the boost from it.

Is this meant to be? if so, this is really, really, amazingly dumb. down and up is one thing, but down but not up is just silly.

preferably i'd like to see the up, and stay up method, as our procs will be pretty much about as good as level 20 poison.

FrozenFrostbeard · 11-21-2007, 05:48 PM

guess none of you care. i was talking about the difference between 390-500 on our personal proc to 470-720. but go ahead, focuse on how to solo, and how to be good and dueling. i'm done asking questions here.

Rast · 11-21-2007, 06:01 PM

Frozen, to be honest, I didn't see your post before today... I've not looked into myself, so I really can't comment, but I pretty much keep my DPS gear on at all times anyways, even when I'm MTing raids because the difference between my mit gear and dps gear is actually pretty minimal and a good healer (which I have several of) will easily compensate for that, while the extra dps = more agro = things can die faster.

lik · 11-21-2007, 08:30 PM

I dont know why i post here myself :/ I read your post , IMO someone that works at SOE should have taken 35 seconds out of there trolling time and answered it. Or atleast offered some info on the matter. If you want to see some soe peeps reply. The best way is to start a argument. They love kickin paladins off these off these forums.

Boethius_Permafrost · 11-21-2007, 08:58 PM

I was unable to reproduce your results.

Gwarsh · 11-22-2007, 12:16 PM

you can't throw your arms up in disgust because no one answered you fast enough, seriously, with all the challenges thrown at paladins you decide to get upset about this? these forums have given valuable insight to the class for me and countless others. just because no one responds right away is no reason to give up on it give us all some time to look at what you are talking about and respond my friend, this is thanksgiving week after all

i'll run my parser and see what i can see

FrozenFrostbeard · 11-23-2007, 11:49 PM

yes, but as laws of forums go, the moment someone gets ticked off, responses come out of the works!

sorry if you think i'm a quitter, but it worked.

to be more specific, i can't get the numbers i'm reading after my proc buff is cast to stay atall the same. they change when i zone, they change when i swap between stances, they change when i put my normal gear on instead of my int gear. drives me absolutely batty. in my most humble of opinions, if the proc buffs are going to be retroactively changing, and reflect our current int scores, shouldnt our second set of fabled class armor have just a smidgen of intelligence? as it stands if i swap over to tank gear i'm getting bumped way down to about 380 on the low side of our self only proc buff. i swap out stuff, recast, and then only if i wait 3-5 minutes, use my gear swap macros to go back to tank gear does it stay up for a few fights. then randomly it slides back down the hill

Gwarsh · 11-24-2007, 03:30 AM

nice call there, crying wolf

i was also unable to reproduce what you were describing, my damage changed appropriatly with gear, stance, and any combination of the two.

11-21-2007, 06:01 PM	#3
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	Frozen, to be honest, I didn't see your post before today... I've not looked into myself, so I really can't comment, but I pretty much keep my DPS gear on at all times anyways, even when I'm MTing raids because the difference between my mit gear and dps gear is actually pretty minimal and a good healer (which I have several of) will easily compensate for that, while the extra dps = more agro = things can die faster. __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)

11-20-2007, 01:26 AM	#1
FrozenFrostbeard Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	i've been keeping an eye on my proc buffs, much like the scouts do for their poisons. int gear used to work... now, i dont know. All current proc buffs, are scaling down damage wise when i change stances and gear. they do not, however, scale back up when i put higher int gear back on. So, if you're swapping from tank to dps, you'll have to recast your proc buffs when you put the other gear on, in order to receive the boost from it. Is this meant to be? if so, this is really, really, amazingly dumb. down and up is one thing, but down but not up is just silly. preferably i'd like to see the up, and stay up method, as our procs will be pretty much about as good as level 20 poison.

11-21-2007, 05:48 PM	#2
FrozenFrostbeard Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	guess none of you care. i was talking about the difference between 390-500 on our personal proc to 470-720. but go ahead, focuse on how to solo, and how to be good and dueling. i'm done asking questions here.

11-21-2007, 08:30 PM	#4
lik General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 66	I dont know why i post here myself :/ I read your post , IMO someone that works at SOE should have taken 35 seconds out of there trolling time and answered it. Or atleast offered some info on the matter. If you want to see some soe peeps reply. The best way is to start a argument. They love kickin paladins off these off these forums.

11-21-2007, 08:58 PM	#5
Boethius_Permafrost Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 335	I was unable to reproduce your results.

11-22-2007, 12:16 PM	#6
Gwarsh Server: Befallen Guild: Chosen Circle Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 116	you can't throw your arms up in disgust because no one answered you fast enough, seriously, with all the challenges thrown at paladins you decide to get upset about this? these forums have given valuable insight to the class for me and countless others. just because no one responds right away is no reason to give up on it give us all some time to look at what you are talking about and respond my friend, this is thanksgiving week after all i'll run my parser and see what i can see

11-23-2007, 11:49 PM	#7
FrozenFrostbeard Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	yes, but as laws of forums go, the moment someone gets ticked off, responses come out of the works! sorry if you think i'm a quitter, but it worked. to be more specific, i can't get the numbers i'm reading after my proc buff is cast to stay atall the same. they change when i zone, they change when i swap between stances, they change when i put my normal gear on instead of my int gear. drives me absolutely batty. in my most humble of opinions, if the proc buffs are going to be retroactively changing, and reflect our current int scores, shouldnt our second set of fabled class armor have just a smidgen of intelligence? as it stands if i swap over to tank gear i'm getting bumped way down to about 380 on the low side of our self only proc buff. i swap out stuff, recast, and then only if i wait 3-5 minutes, use my gear swap macros to go back to tank gear does it stay up for a few fights. then randomly it slides back down the hill

11-24-2007, 03:30 AM	#8
Gwarsh Server: Befallen Guild: Chosen Circle Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 116	nice call there, crying wolf i was also unable to reproduce what you were describing, my damage changed appropriatly with gear, stance, and any combination of the two.