Hand items showing while wearing Gi

Anjin · 10-03-2007, 05:30 AM

Currently, by wearing the Blood Drenched Gi (aITEM -529584361 1950433277:Blood Drenched Gi/a) in the appearance slot (same wearing it normally) the gloves are being worn show through. This doesn't happen while wearing for example the Gi of the Ashen Disciple.

Please could this be fixed. Thanks.

Cusashorn · 10-03-2007, 09:18 AM

Doesn't happen to me.

Sapphirius · 10-03-2007, 10:15 AM

Actually, Cusahorn, the Blood Drenched Gi (that lovely one from D'Morte that matches the newbie bruiser gi) does show your hand items. This is not a bug and is how the gi is intended to look. I rather like that because, without the gloves, the edges of the sleeves around the wrist look awkward, kind of like the edges around the wrists of the Manacles of Sky. If you wish for invisible hand items, there are some leather bruiser/monk only gloves that are invisible which you can wear in your hand slot as fluff armor. You can also wear your monk AQ sleeves in your fluff slots and have it hidden as well or Wu's Fighting Sleeves depending upon your level. I'm not sure about the bruiser AQ sleeves.

If they fixed the Blood Drenched Gi so that gloves would not show, I would want them to also fix it so that the sleeves did not stop so high upon the wrist.

(I've place a picture of the gi below so people can see which one is in reference. The Gi of the Ashen Disciple, which shares the same pattern as that of the Adept Blood Hide pictured below, stops the sleeves lower on the wrist than the Blood Drenched Gi does.)

Blood Drenched Gis without and with gloves

In order, these are the Blood Drenched Gi, Adept Blood Hide Gi, Chainweave Gi, and Wu's Fighting Shirt.

EDIT: because I was accused of ninja-editing, this post was edited to fix the name of a gi I had listed incorrectly.

Cusashorn · 10-03-2007, 02:24 PM

Oh you're right. i was thinking of a different gi. The new one from DFC.

Novusod · 10-03-2007, 02:26 PM

Put this in the appearance tab and that should fix your problem:aITEM -1224459361 -1856871699:Faded Wraps/aIt is a quested item from Darklight woods.

Anjin · 10-03-2007, 03:20 PM

Nozomi, out of interest, how do you know that the "show gloves" effect on the Blood Drenched Gi IS intended, considering other Gi's don't show gloves?

mr23sgte · 10-03-2007, 03:23 PM

I like this GI myself -- equip Wu's shoulders in your appearance slot and it will get rifd of the gloves

Sapphirius · 10-03-2007, 04:58 PM

Anjin wrote:

Nozomi, out of interest, how do you know that the "show gloves" effect on the Blood Drenched Gi IS intended, considering other Gi's don't show gloves?

Because they've shown the gloves on every model all the time whether male or female ever since Bloodline Chronicles came out. It's been what? Nearly 3 years? I also remember a dev post regarding the showing gloves on the Blood Drenched Gi graphic. That was way back in '05, just before they nerfed the mitigation on the Blood Drenched Gi. I'll see if I can dig that post up, but it seems that a lot of the older posts have been swallowed up in the forum revamp.

Bugs are generally things that only happen on certain models or during certain times. The Blood Drenched Gi has always shown gloves on every model, male or female, and it shows the gloves on its counterparts too. (By counterparts, I mean gis or armor pieces that share the same graphic: the newbie bruiser gi and the Manacles of Sky.) Below... These are examples of gi bugs that need to be fixed. They are things that only happen on certain models in the game.

If you don't want gloves on your Blood Drenched Gi, then wear items that will hide your gloves, such as the Faded Wraps, the Silent Fist Sleeves, Wu's Fighting Sleeves, etc. Personally, I like the gloves showing on this graphic because the sleeves cutting off so high on the wrist makes me look like I'm wearing an arm version of highwater pants. It just looks bad.

As for the statement that it must be a bug because the other the other three gi patterns don't show gloves... Can I use this statement to claim that the Gi of the Ashen Disciple and its counterparts are also bugged because that particular design has footwear and the other three gi patterns show my bare feet?

Anjin · 10-04-2007, 06:37 AM

Sapphirius wrote:

As for the statement that it must be a bug because the other the other three gi patterns don't show gloves... Can I use this statement to claim that the Gi of the Ashen Disciple and its counterparts are also bugged because that particular design has footwear and the other three gi patterns show my bare feet?

No you cant ! :p If the Gi of the Ashen Disciple showed the worn boots through the Gi graphic, then fine, you have a point, but they don't. The boots are actually part of the Gi graphic, unlike the gloves showing through with the Blood Drenched Gi. Having a male monk, although the Ashen Disciple model arms look better, the Blood Drenched Gi model doesn't look that bad without gloves.

Sapphirius · 10-04-2007, 12:29 PM

This still doesn't support your arguement that the gloves showing must be a bug because the other 3 gis don't show gloves. BTW, it's a matter of personal preference. I think the Blood Drenched Gi looks positively horrid without gloves.

Personally, I'd rather they fixed the broken sides and invisible waists on elven females and the misaligned panels on the kerran females than have them tweak around with something that looks perfectly fine the way it is. If you don't want your gloves showing, then wear something that will hide your gloves. If they ever did make it so that the gloves would be hidden, I'd never wear the gi again because the high wrist line looks stupid. It'd wind up being added to my transmutation fodder.

Don't make other people who think it looks good as it is suffer over your personal preference, especially when you can already do something about it in game without asking the devs to change its appearance.

Anjin · 10-04-2007, 07:44 PM

I'm quite happy to find "invisible" gloves. What I do find irritating is this:

"Don't make other people who think it looks good as it is suffer over your personal preference, especially when you can already do something about it in game without asking the devs to change its appearance."

1. You have your preferences, I have mine, so don't bring in the 'other people' arguement.

2. My initial point was that I thought it was a BUG! AFAIK this is the ONLY Gi (apart from some which are just chest altering items) that doesn't affect hand slots. Which although not ultimately confirming it is a bug, is actually a damned sight better than your reasoning/proof of why you think it's not the case.

3. The reason why I'm doing things like this and this is because you like to emphasise things in a condescending manner.

Anjin · 10-04-2007, 08:06 PM

To add to that, in a monk roleplaying environment (which I'm not in, but appreciate the look a monk (in my eyes) should have), monks aren't glamour models (infact far from it). Just because so many people choose female monks because the Gi looks great, doesn't mean that male monks have to go around with effeminate designs. Male monks are hard done by enough with the ornate designs that cater for the female monks (whether played by moobs or women).

Out of interest (again) which Gi do you wear? Do you often wear the Blood Drenched Gi or do you just want your extensive Gi wardrobe at 100% satisfaction at all times?

Playing on a RP server I thought you might consider the monk for what it should be, not as a fashion statement..............

Sapphirius · 10-04-2007, 09:03 PM

Condescending is asking me to prove what I say when I state the obvious. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I'm belittling you.

I don't wear a gi at all unless it is a special occasion, such as a ball or tavern event. My favorite gi of choice during special events is the Blood Drenched because it covers me up so well and is both loose and practical. My monk trains with the Ashen Order and wears an outfit similar to theirs. If I had my way, my monk would be in the flowing yukatas and obis of the Japanese fighting monks. The armor would be nice as well, but that'd make her more of a samurai then.

Anjin · 10-04-2007, 09:57 PM

"Condescending is asking me to prove what I say when I state the obvious. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I'm belittling you."

Not at all, it's the tone of your posts that do the job very well!

Not being funny here, but you may be on a RP server, but that doesn't mean you need to RP on the forums.

Sapphirius · 10-05-2007, 01:21 AM

Anjin wrote:

"Condescending is asking me to prove what I say when I state the obvious. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I'm belittling you."
Not at all, it's the tone of your posts that do the job very well!
Not being funny here, but you may be on a RP server, but that doesn't mean you need to RP on the forums.

Nor does it mean that you get to attack anyone who doesn't agree with you.

EDIT: And again because I was accused of ninja-editing, this post was edited mostly for spelling errors and then edited again out of respect to the moderators when I addressed the OP's personal attack against me.

Zarafein · 10-05-2007, 03:42 AM

Actually it's not the case that the blood drenched gi always showed hand armor, maybe it was this way at bloodline launch but at some time they changed it and i buged it immedieatly around early 2007( the same time the balanced armbands lost their apperance which i buged as well) when the hand armor appeared and from then more than once, every time there was an update with no fix till i surrendered.

Anjin · 10-05-2007, 06:11 AM

Been checking out old posts regarding the Blood Drenched Gi:

LU #9 update post

"- The Blood Drenched Gi will now occlude other armor properly."

GU33 Hotfix requests

"Since GU #32:

1. balanced armbands bugged/no grafic

2.handarmor is visible on blood drenched gi"

Inbetween those two posts there was the following complaint which incidently came after the No-Zone flag was removed in LU #15:

Post

"Can we take away the Glove animation? How about a /hideglove ..or just take it out of the artwork to show gloves when we have Gi's equipped?"

So it seems that Prior to LU #9 the Gi was incorrectly showing the gloves, the correction was made in LU #9 but the LU#15 update changed this. It was then silently updated to occlude gloves prior to GU #32 and then another silent change was made since GU#32 to show gloves again.

Now since I've heard that invisible gloves can be put in the appearance slot to solve this, I don't want the item to be fixed as some people (Nozomi) don't like the forearm effect.

To Nozomi, you get treated the way you treat other people. You insisted that I was wrong about the problem without providing anything factual and then got overly defensive when I start questioning about your logic/motive.

Anjin · 10-05-2007, 06:57 AM

Novusod wrote:

Put this in the appearance tab and that should fix your problem:aITEM -1224459361 -1856871699:Faded Wraps/aIt is a quested item from Darklight woods.

Any idea which quest provides the reward? Thanks.

Sapphirius · 10-05-2007, 11:56 AM

Normally, I don't respond to baiting, but because I hate misinformation so incredibly much...

Anjin wrote:

Post
"Can we take away the Glove animation? How about a /hideglove ..or just take it out of the artwork to show gloves when we have Gi's equipped?"
So it seems that Prior to LU #9 the Gi was incorrectly showing the gloves, the correction was made in LU #9 but the LU#15 update changed this. It was then silently updated to occlude gloves prior to GU #32 and then another silent change was made since GU#32 to show gloves again.

Blood Drenched Gi - 4/12/2005 (Notice in this picture that his bracers are also showing. It was the bracers that were "occluded." )

LU 9 - 5/26/05

Blood Drenched Gi - 6/13/2005 (displayed picture without gloves and linked picture with gloves in the same post)

Blood Drenched Gi - 10/1/2005

LU 15 - 10/19/2005

Comments about invisible items, no mention made about it once not showing gloves. - 12/26/2005

"The nice thing about the AQ gi is that when you equip it it hides all your other armor except your hat and your gloves. So far only one gi has been coded to hide your gloves, the Gi of the Ashen Disciple (and I'm guessing the fabled version hides the gloves as well.)"

Blood Drenched Gi - 1/10/2006

LU 32 - 2/28/2007

The fix referred to was not the gloves but to a "no-zone" tag that had been placed on it.

"First, the Blood Drenched Gi has indeed been fixed and the [No-Zone] tag that was accidentaly added in LU13 has been removed (Thank you to the GM that reimbursed my GI after LU15) "

It is also referred to in here and here.

EDIT: For emphasis on where the cold hard evidence is...

Gi of the Disciple (same graphic as the Blood Drenched Gi) - 10/1/2005 The Gi of the Disciple she's wearing comes from Splitpaw. Splitpaw was released 6/28/2005, after the patch date for LU 9. This picture was taken and posted before the patch date for LU 15. The last update on this picture was 10/1/2005, two weeks prior to LU 15. Notice that this picture displays the gloves but not the bracers, which was the item "occluded" in LU 9.

Amalthea · 10-05-2007, 02:12 PM

Please refrain from player-specific jabs; this has been an informative thread so far, and it's a shame to ruin it with insults.If it doesn't directly relate to the point put forth in the thread's OP, especially if it's derogatory and aimed specifically at another player, it's best to leave it out. Don't take things personal, and don't make things personal!Please keep it respectful and constructive!

Zarafein · 10-05-2007, 02:36 PM

Gues something was deleted?

Well you can get the faded wraps from the wanted poster in the starting village of darklight woods if you are a brawler.

Anjin · 10-05-2007, 03:03 PM

Cheers, have got them now.

10-03-2007, 02:26 PM	#5
Novusod Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,719	Put this in the appearance tab and that should fix your problem:aITEM -1224459361 -1856871699:Faded Wraps/aIt is a quested item from Darklight woods. __________________

10-03-2007, 04:58 PM	#8
Sapphirius Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,399	Anjin wrote: Nozomi, out of interest, how do you know that the "show gloves" effect on the Blood Drenched Gi IS intended, considering other Gi's don't show gloves? Because they've shown the gloves on every model all the time whether male or female ever since Bloodline Chronicles came out. It's been what? Nearly 3 years? I also remember a dev post regarding the showing gloves on the Blood Drenched Gi graphic. That was way back in '05, just before they nerfed the mitigation on the Blood Drenched Gi. I'll see if I can dig that post up, but it seems that a lot of the older posts have been swallowed up in the forum revamp. Bugs are generally things that only happen on certain models or during certain times. The Blood Drenched Gi has always shown gloves on every model, male or female, and it shows the gloves on its counterparts too. (By counterparts, I mean gis or armor pieces that share the same graphic: the newbie bruiser gi and the Manacles of Sky.) Below... These are examples of gi bugs that need to be fixed. They are things that only happen on certain models in the game. If you don't want gloves on your Blood Drenched Gi, then wear items that will hide your gloves, such as the Faded Wraps, the Silent Fist Sleeves, Wu's Fighting Sleeves, etc. Personally, I like the gloves showing on this graphic because the sleeves cutting off so high on the wrist makes me look like I'm wearing an arm version of highwater pants. It just looks bad. As for the statement that it must be a bug because the other the other three gi patterns don't show gloves... Can I use this statement to claim that the Gi of the Ashen Disciple and its counterparts are also bugged because that particular design has footwear and the other three gi patterns show my bare feet? __________________ Decorating is 1% inspiration, 9% work, and 90% tweaking. I've spent many an hour just moving things I've placed an inch or so over "that-a-way."

10-04-2007, 12:29 PM	#10
Sapphirius Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,399	This still doesn't support your arguement that the gloves showing must be a bug because the other 3 gis don't show gloves. BTW, it's a matter of personal preference. I think the Blood Drenched Gi looks positively horrid without gloves. Personally, I'd rather they fixed the broken sides and invisible waists on elven females and the misaligned panels on the kerran females than have them tweak around with something that looks perfectly fine the way it is. If you don't want your gloves showing, then wear something that will hide your gloves. If they ever did make it so that the gloves would be hidden, I'd never wear the gi again because the high wrist line looks stupid. It'd wind up being added to my transmutation fodder. Don't make other people who think it looks good as it is suffer over your personal preference, especially when you can already do something about it in game without asking the devs to change its appearance. __________________ Decorating is 1% inspiration, 9% work, and 90% tweaking. I've spent many an hour just moving things I've placed an inch or so over "that-a-way."

10-04-2007, 09:03 PM	#13
Sapphirius Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,399	Condescending is asking me to prove what I say when I state the obvious. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I'm belittling you. I don't wear a gi at all unless it is a special occasion, such as a ball or tavern event. My favorite gi of choice during special events is the Blood Drenched because it covers me up so well and is both loose and practical. My monk trains with the Ashen Order and wears an outfit similar to theirs. If I had my way, my monk would be in the flowing yukatas and obis of the Japanese fighting monks. The armor would be nice as well, but that'd make her more of a samurai then. __________________ Decorating is 1% inspiration, 9% work, and 90% tweaking. I've spent many an hour just moving things I've placed an inch or so over "that-a-way."

10-05-2007, 06:57 AM	#18
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	Novusod wrote: Put this in the appearance tab and that should fix your problem:aITEM -1224459361 -1856871699:Faded Wraps/aIt is a quested item from Darklight woods. Any idea which quest provides the reward? Thanks.

10-03-2007, 05:30 AM	#1
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	Currently, by wearing the Blood Drenched Gi (aITEM -529584361 1950433277:Blood Drenched Gi/a) in the appearance slot (same wearing it normally) the gloves are being worn show through. This doesn't happen while wearing for example the Gi of the Ashen Disciple. Please could this be fixed. Thanks.

10-03-2007, 09:18 AM	#2
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Doesn't happen to me.

10-03-2007, 10:15 AM	#3
Sapphirius Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,399	Actually, Cusahorn, the Blood Drenched Gi (that lovely one from D'Morte that matches the newbie bruiser gi) does show your hand items. This is not a bug and is how the gi is intended to look. I rather like that because, without the gloves, the edges of the sleeves around the wrist look awkward, kind of like the edges around the wrists of the Manacles of Sky. If you wish for invisible hand items, there are some leather bruiser/monk only gloves that are invisible which you can wear in your hand slot as fluff armor. You can also wear your monk AQ sleeves in your fluff slots and have it hidden as well or Wu's Fighting Sleeves depending upon your level. I'm not sure about the bruiser AQ sleeves. If they fixed the Blood Drenched Gi so that gloves would not show, I would want them to also fix it so that the sleeves did not stop so high upon the wrist. (I've place a picture of the gi below so people can see which one is in reference. The Gi of the Ashen Disciple, which shares the same pattern as that of the Adept Blood Hide pictured below, stops the sleeves lower on the wrist than the Blood Drenched Gi does.) Blood Drenched Gis without and with gloves In order, these are the Blood Drenched Gi, Adept Blood Hide Gi, Chainweave Gi, and Wu's Fighting Shirt. EDIT: because I was accused of ninja-editing, this post was edited to fix the name of a gi I had listed incorrectly. __________________ Decorating is 1% inspiration, 9% work, and 90% tweaking. I've spent many an hour just moving things I've placed an inch or so over "that-a-way."

10-03-2007, 02:24 PM	#4
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Oh you're right. i was thinking of a different gi. The new one from DFC.

10-03-2007, 03:20 PM	#6
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	Nozomi, out of interest, how do you know that the "show gloves" effect on the Blood Drenched Gi IS intended, considering other Gi's don't show gloves?

10-03-2007, 03:23 PM	#7
mr23sgte Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 450	I like this GI myself -- equip Wu's shoulders in your appearance slot and it will get rifd of the gloves

10-04-2007, 06:37 AM	#9
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	Sapphirius wrote: As for the statement that it must be a bug because the other the other three gi patterns don't show gloves... Can I use this statement to claim that the Gi of the Ashen Disciple and its counterparts are also bugged because that particular design has footwear and the other three gi patterns show my bare feet? No you cant ! :p If the Gi of the Ashen Disciple showed the worn boots through the Gi graphic, then fine, you have a point, but they don't. The boots are actually part of the Gi graphic, unlike the gloves showing through with the Blood Drenched Gi. Having a male monk, although the Ashen Disciple model arms look better, the Blood Drenched Gi model doesn't look that bad without gloves.

10-04-2007, 07:44 PM	#11
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	I'm quite happy to find "invisible" gloves. What I do find irritating is this: "Don't make other people who think it looks good as it is suffer over your personal preference, especially when you can already do something about it in game without asking the devs to change its appearance." 1. You have your preferences, I have mine, so don't bring in the 'other people' arguement. 2. My initial point was that I thought it was a BUG! AFAIK this is the ONLY Gi (apart from some which are just chest altering items) that doesn't affect hand slots. Which although not ultimately confirming it is a bug, is actually a damned sight better than your reasoning/proof of why you think it's not the case. 3. The reason why I'm doing things like this and this is because you like to emphasise things in a condescending manner.

10-04-2007, 08:06 PM	#12
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	To add to that, in a monk roleplaying environment (which I'm not in, but appreciate the look a monk (in my eyes) should have), monks aren't glamour models (infact far from it). Just because so many people choose female monks because the Gi looks great, doesn't mean that male monks have to go around with effeminate designs. Male monks are hard done by enough with the ornate designs that cater for the female monks (whether played by moobs or women). Out of interest (again) which Gi do you wear? Do you often wear the Blood Drenched Gi or do you just want your extensive Gi wardrobe at 100% satisfaction at all times? Playing on a RP server I thought you might consider the monk for what it should be, not as a fashion statement..............

10-04-2007, 09:57 PM	#14
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	"Condescending is asking me to prove what I say when I state the obvious. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I'm belittling you." Not at all, it's the tone of your posts that do the job very well! Not being funny here, but you may be on a RP server, but that doesn't mean you need to RP on the forums.

10-05-2007, 01:21 AM	#15
Sapphirius Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,399	Anjin wrote: "Condescending is asking me to prove what I say when I state the obvious. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I'm belittling you." Not at all, it's the tone of your posts that do the job very well! Not being funny here, but you may be on a RP server, but that doesn't mean you need to RP on the forums. Nor does it mean that you get to attack anyone who doesn't agree with you. EDIT: And again because I was accused of ninja-editing, this post was edited mostly for spelling errors and then edited again out of respect to the moderators when I addressed the OP's personal attack against me. __________________ Decorating is 1% inspiration, 9% work, and 90% tweaking. I've spent many an hour just moving things I've placed an inch or so over "that-a-way."

10-05-2007, 03:42 AM	#16
Zarafein Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 471	Actually it's not the case that the blood drenched gi always showed hand armor, maybe it was this way at bloodline launch but at some time they changed it and i buged it immedieatly around early 2007( the same time the balanced armbands lost their apperance which i buged as well) when the hand armor appeared and from then more than once, every time there was an update with no fix till i surrendered.

10-05-2007, 06:11 AM	#17
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	Been checking out old posts regarding the Blood Drenched Gi: LU #9 update post "- The Blood Drenched Gi will now occlude other armor properly." GU33 Hotfix requests "Since GU #32: 1. balanced armbands bugged/no grafic 2.handarmor is visible on blood drenched gi" Inbetween those two posts there was the following complaint which incidently came after the No-Zone flag was removed in LU #15: Post "Can we take away the Glove animation? How about a /hideglove ..or just take it out of the artwork to show gloves when we have Gi's equipped?" So it seems that Prior to LU #9 the Gi was incorrectly showing the gloves, the correction was made in LU #9 but the LU#15 update changed this. It was then silently updated to occlude gloves prior to GU #32 and then another silent change was made since GU#32 to show gloves again. Now since I've heard that invisible gloves can be put in the appearance slot to solve this, I don't want the item to be fixed as some people (Nozomi) don't like the forearm effect. To Nozomi, you get treated the way you treat other people. You insisted that I was wrong about the problem without providing anything factual and then got overly defensive when I start questioning about your logic/motive.

10-05-2007, 11:56 AM	#19
Sapphirius Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,399	Normally, I don't respond to baiting, but because I hate misinformation so incredibly much... Anjin wrote: Post "Can we take away the Glove animation? How about a /hideglove ..or just take it out of the artwork to show gloves when we have Gi's equipped?" So it seems that Prior to LU #9 the Gi was incorrectly showing the gloves, the correction was made in LU #9 but the LU#15 update changed this. It was then silently updated to occlude gloves prior to GU #32 and then another silent change was made since GU#32 to show gloves again. Blood Drenched Gi - 4/12/2005 (Notice in this picture that his bracers are also showing. It was the bracers that were "occluded." ) LU 9 - 5/26/05 Blood Drenched Gi - 6/13/2005 (displayed picture without gloves and linked picture with gloves in the same post) Blood Drenched Gi - 10/1/2005 LU 15 - 10/19/2005 Comments about invisible items, no mention made about it once not showing gloves. - 12/26/2005 "The nice thing about the AQ gi is that when you equip it it hides all your other armor except your hat and your gloves. So far only one gi has been coded to hide your gloves, the Gi of the Ashen Disciple (and I'm guessing the fabled version hides the gloves as well.)" Blood Drenched Gi - 1/10/2006 LU 32 - 2/28/2007 The fix referred to was not the gloves but to a "no-zone" tag that had been placed on it. "First, the Blood Drenched Gi has indeed been fixed and the [No-Zone] tag that was accidentaly added in LU13 has been removed (Thank you to the GM that reimbursed my GI after LU15) " It is also referred to in here and here. EDIT: For emphasis on where the cold hard evidence is... Gi of the Disciple (same graphic as the Blood Drenched Gi) - 10/1/2005 The Gi of the Disciple she's wearing comes from Splitpaw. Splitpaw was released 6/28/2005, after the patch date for LU 9. This picture was taken and posted before the patch date for LU 15. The last update on this picture was 10/1/2005, two weeks prior to LU 15. Notice that this picture displays the gloves but not the bracers, which was the item "occluded" in LU 9. __________________ Decorating is 1% inspiration, 9% work, and 90% tweaking. I've spent many an hour just moving things I've placed an inch or so over "that-a-way."

10-05-2007, 02:12 PM	#20
Amalthea Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 242	Please refrain from player-specific jabs; this has been an informative thread so far, and it's a shame to ruin it with insults.If it doesn't directly relate to the point put forth in the thread's OP, especially if it's derogatory and aimed specifically at another player, it's best to leave it out. Don't take things personal, and don't make things personal!Please keep it respectful and constructive! __________________ "Report this post to a moderator" is your friend. Feel free to use it, but please don't abuse it!

10-05-2007, 02:36 PM	#21
Zarafein Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 471	Gues something was deleted? Well you can get the faded wraps from the wanted poster in the starting village of darklight woods if you are a brawler.

10-05-2007, 03:03 PM	#22
Anjin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 423	Cheers, have got them now.