Provisioner mastery recipes

Thunderthyze · 09-19-2007, 06:46 PM

Question....you get 3 recipes with this book.

1. You get to throw chocolate cake at people in the same way as you did with snowballs. Errr..........ok

2. You get to turn into a random race for 6 hours. Well...actually....the transformation is reset if you zone

3. You get to fall over drunk.

Right, #1 is ok although may well end up becoming a tad annoying after a while. #2 is actually quite cool and it is unfortunate that you have to recast every time you zone. But #3......! I mean.....what!? What the hell is the point of this or am I missing something? Don't we have enough monks, SKs and necros feigning death all over the place in QH and EFP that we need everyone to have the ability? Now if the effect was to make the imbiber shamble off to the nearest guard and pick a fight I could quite like that...but at the moment, failing to see the point.

Thunderthyze · 09-19-2007, 06:49 PM

Just a thought for future volumes. Maybe you could throw cream pies that end up sticking to the face of the character for 30 seconds or so?

Calthine · 09-19-2007, 07:33 PM

Two words:Jell-o Shots.

Aurumn · 09-20-2007, 01:23 PM

Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:

But #3......! I mean.....what!? What the hell is the point of this or am I missing something? Don't we have enough monks, SKs and necros feigning death all over the place in QH and EFP that we need everyone to have the ability? Now if the effect was to make the imbiber shamble off to the nearest guard and pick a fight I could quite like that...but at the moment, failing to see the point.

I'm guessing it's a concession for the hordes of people begging to be able to make their characters lie down. Other than that it's just for giggles. Now Wizzies can pretend they are a Necro with FD... no harm done really. If they are strewn throughout the streets blocking traffic, pelt them with cake or frostfell snowballs.

It would be nice if the cake actually "stuck" for a bit though. *hehe*

Looker1010 · 09-20-2007, 01:37 PM

Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah.

Calthine · 09-20-2007, 01:44 PM

I thought it fit in well with the Bristlebane theme.

ke'la · 09-20-2007, 01:57 PM

Looker1010 wrote:

Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah.

:Edited to make a more aproperate responce after rereading the post:

Your right 8 of the 9 classes get "truly useful" iteams that require a RARE harvest(wich yours does not) to make Mastercrafted Stuff. Then there is that 1 class out of nine that nearly all the standard harvest Handcrafted iteams they make are truly useful... infact they are the ONLY class that makes desirable Handcrafted Iteams anymore.

So your complaining that for the first time EVER provisioners are getting Advanced Tradeskill Recipes something they have asked for for a long time, on top of that they are the ONLY class to accually get NEW recipes from this quest(wich many lvling crafters would say is far more useful then a book that sales for maybe 30s-10g depending on the class and volume that they can get from drops). Secondly as far as the Recipes themselfs go, if you call them Useless then I guess the whole Carpenter Class is Useless. Sorry to break it to you but people accually LIKE having fluff iteams like this readally available to them not only that but unlike the "useful" book that you can sell ONCE or scribe(saving you a small amount of gold or alot of time) you can make the new recipes as many times as you want(if you have the raws) and sell them repeatedly making far more coin in the long run.

As for the cake thing if its using that same graphic they used for the Frostfell Cake last year if your particals are turned up you accually do see a splat of the cake when it hits(not stuff on the face but the cake breaking up)

Nuhus · 09-20-2007, 02:04 PM

Looker1010 wrote:

Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah.

I'm pretty darn pessimistic when it comes to tradeskills.

Honestly, the advanced recipe book reward is decent for those that may be missing some. I only did the quest on one character on live. My provisioner. I know they are just fluff items, but it's certainly something different. When I first got the quest on test I kind of expected the "treasured" recipes similar to hopples apple pie. But I was a bit suprised as it was outside the norm.

For some reason I am rather optimistic about it, it is outside the normal realm of provisioning - even if it's fluff, it's different. Can't say the same for my sage.

ke'la · 09-20-2007, 02:10 PM

Nolus@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Looker1010 wrote:
Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah.
I'm pretty darn pessimistic when it comes to tradeskills.
Honestly, the advanced recipe book reward is decent for those that may be missing some. I only did the quest on one character on live. My provisioner. I know they are just fluff items, but it's certainly something different. When I first got the quest on test I kind of expected the "treasured" recipes similar to hopples apple pie. But I was a bit suprised as it was outside the norm.
For some reason I am rather optimistic about it, it is outside the normal realm of provisioning - even if it's fluff, it's different. Can't say the same for my sage.

I still think that Provies should be able to make placable food iteams(like the frostfell stuff) for peoples houses and these also could fall into the Mastercrafted catigory as they could use rare "preservitives" like say Dirt.. er Loam.

Valdaglerion · 09-20-2007, 02:34 PM

If the falling over drunk thing worked like FD it would be awesome - most purchased drink in all of Norrath. I could see that - 30min duration drink, no stats but could cast FD (Fallen Drunk) which would work like Feign Death with a recast of 1 min. That would be amazing... casters everywhere would rejoice! (because the tinkered thing sucks with a 30min recast SMILEY

rumblepants · 09-20-2007, 02:46 PM

I still have the snowballs from last year that I use to pelt certain NPCs for annoying me. Now I have chocolate cake. Most excellent.

Aurumn · 09-20-2007, 02:47 PM

Hehe... can you imagine bringing a six-pack as a requirement for raid attendance? Brings a whole new meaning to "Hall Crawl", now don't it?

Jesdyr · 09-20-2007, 02:54 PM

Aurumn@Unrest wrote:

Hehe... can you imagine bringing a six-pack as a requirement for raid attendance? Brings a whole new meaning to "Hall Crawl", now don't it?

You mean that isn't how it is right now ? Oh... Oops SMILEY

Cadori Seraphim · 09-20-2007, 03:11 PM

ke'la wrote:

Nolus@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Looker1010 wrote:
Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah.
I'm pretty darn pessimistic when it comes to tradeskills.
Honestly, the advanced recipe book reward is decent for those that may be missing some. I only did the quest on one character on live. My provisioner. I know they are just fluff items, but it's certainly something different. When I first got the quest on test I kind of expected the "treasured" recipes similar to hopples apple pie. But I was a bit suprised as it was outside the norm.
For some reason I am rather optimistic about it, it is outside the normal realm of provisioning - even if it's fluff, it's different. Can't say the same for my sage.
I still think that Provies should be able to make placable food iteams(like the frostfell stuff) for peoples houses and these also could fall into the Mastercrafted catigory as they could use rare "preservitives" like say Dirt.. er Loam.

I 100% agree. It would be nice if provs can make house food items SMILEY

Give us the love!

Lutefisk · 09-20-2007, 05:49 PM

As a non-provisioner, I can only say that the special provisioner recipes are "cute". They MIGHT be salable, but the non-critical nature of the effects militates against repeat sales. It's a really good try at giving the provisioners something "advanced" with which to compete.Cake -- great for those who ran out of stockpiled snowballs, and likely popular on the PvP servers to allow for offensive action without consequences (e.g., low-level toon pelting a red-conned goon, or a yellow-orange gankgang).Jester Cap -- fun spell, but being cancelled on zoning is annoying. A shorter but more persistent effect would be better. (And yes, there may be programming reasons for not doing so.)FD drink -- Would be a lot more fun if the character caption greyed out and were changed to the "Corpse of ..." message. Plus, upon an attempted rez, the corpse should reply to the rezzer, "I'm not dead yet!" This effect would be especially useful in PvP.It would have been nice for the provisioners to receive at least ONE useful, non-gag recipe in the book.Finally, note that the recipes might have been more popular if they hadn't come shortly after the incidence of sparkling and glimmering material was reduced, such that prices for each now seem to hover around 1g. It's still a very good use of those resources.BUT, we tradeskill aficionados must give tremendous credit and thanks to Domino for her efforts to make tradeskilling more interesting and engaging. The changes over the last few months have been tremendously good.THANK YOU DOMINO !!!

Thunderthyze · 09-20-2007, 06:41 PM

I think the time has come for us now to turn our attention to suggesting recipes for Provisioner Mastery Volume 2?

Valdaglerion · 09-20-2007, 06:58 PM

Aurumn@Unrest wrote:

Hehe... can you imagine bringing a six-pack as a requirement for raid attendance? Brings a whole new meaning to "Hall Crawl", now don't it?

If you are only bringing a six pack to a raid, it must be a short hall SMILEY

Somniloquy · 09-21-2007, 04:28 AM

ke'la wrote:

Nolus@Antonia Bayle wrote: I still think that Provies should be able to make placable food iteams(like the frostfell stuff) for peoples houses and these also could fall into the Mastercrafted catigory as they could use rare "preservitives" like say Dirt.. er Loam.

I think this is a great idea. Some could use the rare loams and some the rare root, maybe. It would fit in with the profession really well, too.A few extra reipes per level would help get away from the grind and the chaining of Rush Orders that it currently is.Someone said "Can't say the same for my Sage". Couldn't agree more, the class that makes nothing that anyone really wants beyond T3 (at best) without using a rare.

Mystfit · 09-21-2007, 08:11 AM

Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny.

Aurumn · 09-21-2007, 10:24 AM

Mystfit wrote:

Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny.

Seriously?! Grrr! Why must I be at work? *curse you bills!* Hmm, maybe one of my guildies will let me get their horse drunk. I totally want a screenshot of that.

Rijacki · 09-21-2007, 10:50 AM

Mystfit wrote:

Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny.

I am so glad I'm not drinking coffee right now. That is just tooooo funny!

Vonotar · 09-21-2007, 11:12 AM

The Mastery spells are a nice addition, but I'd hate to think they are designed to be the de facto 'equivalent' of the Advanced recipes that other tradeskill classes get.Personally I would like to see house food, and plant/flower type items appearing in proper Advanced Provisioner books. While I understand this might slightly step on Carpenters toes, as somebody who has both tradeskills I would endorse this idea.The 'Mastery' spellbook should instead be seen as an equivalent to the 'Ancient Teachings' type scrolls that other tradeskills get.

Domino · 09-21-2007, 11:24 AM

Vonotar@Butcherblock wrote:

The 'Mastery' spellbook should instead be seen as an equivalent to the 'Ancient Teachings' type scrolls that other tradeskills get.

That's a much better way of looking at it. You'll note they don't use true rares, they're not true "advanced" books.Of course, those who believe nothing is better than something fun, can always keep in mind they can still be removed again. :pI actually had no idea the horse would pass out too, I never thought to test it on a horse. That's great! Our art department is teh win! SMILEY

And yes there will be a few more similar coming when the art requests are complete, not till after RoK however.

Ama · 09-21-2007, 11:30 AM

DominoDev wrote:

Vonotar@Butcherblock wrote:
The 'Mastery' spellbook should instead be seen as an equivalent to the 'Ancient Teachings' type scrolls that other tradeskills get.
That's a much better way of looking at it. You'll note they don't use true rares, they're not true "advanced" books.Of course, those who believe nothing is better than something fun, can always keep in mind they can still be removed again. :pI actually had no idea the horse would pass out too, I never thought to test it on a horse. That's great! Our art department is teh win! " width="15" height="15" /> And yes there will be a few more similar coming when the art requests are complete, not till after RoK however.

Ok now I gotta see this Domino. If the horse passes out drunk then you eq2 guys are gods in my eyes.

liveja · 09-21-2007, 11:31 AM

Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:

Just a thought for future volumes. Maybe you could throw cream pies that end up sticking to the face of the character for 30 seconds or so?

& going along with this thought ... can they be made such that we can throw them at forum posters, so that creamy goodness sticks to their posting avatar for some long period of time? Maybe the more people who throw pies at people, the more cream sticks to that person's posting avatar, so that way we could REALLY see the posters whom most of the community think to be nit-wits?

Because that would sooooooo rock.

SMILEY

Mystfit · 09-21-2007, 11:31 AM

Finora · 09-21-2007, 11:57 AM

ROFL, horses that pass out oh my. I should have made some of that instead of the illusion stuff with my provie =).

Looker1010 wrote:

Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah.

And bah. I haven't done these quests with anyone BUT my provisioner (though I really should see if I can get those last few books I need on my weaponsmith). I thought they were fantastic. Not everything has to be 'useful' to be a great deal of fun. Everyone else got the same old same old they've been able to get all along, just they got the chance to get it from a quest rather than getting lucky on a drop or buying it from the broker. We provisioners got something new and FUN. I think that's FAR superiour to what the other trade classes get for the quest (except maybe lucky jewelers who get book 28 from the quest =0 ). If you don't like them, don't do the quest and don't make or use the recipes. Those of us out there who think they are awesome will continue to have our fun.

I'm throughly looking forward to the next set for Provisioners myself. I do keep hoping for placeable house food =), but more fun stuff would be acceptable as well.

Calthine · 09-21-2007, 12:37 PM

Mystfit wrote:

Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny.

OMG!!! hehe. I'll have to try it on my Warg.

novok · 09-21-2007, 12:44 PM

Horses passing out drunk?

Oh my.

Whatever will Thibor24 think of THIS?

Krystara · 09-21-2007, 12:52 PM

Mystfit wrote:

Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny.

Oh now that I have *got* to try!!!!! I can't wait to tell Drakael whose been nagging at me to get to work on his Hair of the Dogs.

I love our new recipes - they are such fun. I'd love more placeable food like the frostfell items.. those were so much fun to make and everyone wanted them.

09-20-2007, 01:23 PM	#4
Aurumn Server: Unrest Guild: Executioners Rank: Teen of chaos (2 weeks + 6,857 astatus) Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,328	Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote: But #3......! I mean.....what!? What the hell is the point of this or am I missing something? Don't we have enough monks, SKs and necros feigning death all over the place in QH and EFP that we need everyone to have the ability? Now if the effect was to make the imbiber shamble off to the nearest guard and pick a fight I could quite like that...but at the moment, failing to see the point. I'm guessing it's a concession for the hordes of people begging to be able to make their characters lie down. Other than that it's just for giggles. Now Wizzies can pretend they are a Necro with FD... no harm done really. If they are strewn throughout the streets blocking traffic, pelt them with cake or frostfell snowballs. It would be nice if the cake actually "stuck" for a bit though. hehe

09-20-2007, 01:37 PM	#5
Looker1010 ZAM Copy Editor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Diego, CA/GMT -8 Posts: 735	Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah. __________________ Ariel 88 Conjurer / 90 Provisioner ... Dalila 67 Illusionist / 90 Jeweler / 450 Tinkerer / 325 Transmuting / 450 Adorning ... Glinda 68 Wizard / 90 Sage Merle 51 Conjurer / 50 Woodworker ... Miriamne 78 Warden / 87 Tailor Morningstar 85 Paladin / 90 Alchemist ... Ogadia 73 Monk / 80 Carpenter Test Server Wamira 80 Warden / 80 Provisioner ... Breppa 64 Ranger / 71 Carpenter Miriamne 66 Guardian / 73 Tailor ... Ariela 64 Conjurer / 72 Jeweler Pasharia 52 Paladin / 71 Wood Worker ... Berengeria 50 Wizard / 74 Armorer Taliana 65 Monk / 80 Alchemist ... Lavinia 54 Warlock / 70 Weaponsmith Sadye 44 Coercer / 74 Sage ... Sarita 59 Bruiser Kithicor - Retired

09-20-2007, 01:44 PM	#6
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	I thought it fit in well with the Bristlebane theme. __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

09-20-2007, 01:57 PM	#7
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Looker1010 wrote: Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah. :Edited to make a more aproperate responce after rereading the post: Your right 8 of the 9 classes get "truly useful" iteams that require a RARE harvest(wich yours does not) to make Mastercrafted Stuff. Then there is that 1 class out of nine that nearly all the standard harvest Handcrafted iteams they make are truly useful... infact they are the ONLY class that makes desirable Handcrafted Iteams anymore. So your complaining that for the first time EVER provisioners are getting Advanced Tradeskill Recipes something they have asked for for a long time, on top of that they are the ONLY class to accually get NEW recipes from this quest(wich many lvling crafters would say is far more useful then a book that sales for maybe 30s-10g depending on the class and volume that they can get from drops). Secondly as far as the Recipes themselfs go, if you call them Useless then I guess the whole Carpenter Class is Useless. Sorry to break it to you but people accually LIKE having fluff iteams like this readally available to them not only that but unlike the "useful" book that you can sell ONCE or scribe(saving you a small amount of gold or alot of time) you can make the new recipes as many times as you want(if you have the raws) and sell them repeatedly making far more coin in the long run. As for the cake thing if its using that same graphic they used for the Frostfell Cake last year if your particals are turned up you accually do see a splat of the cake when it hits(not stuff on the face but the cake breaking up) __________________

09-20-2007, 02:04 PM	#8
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	Looker1010 wrote: Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah. I'm pretty darn pessimistic when it comes to tradeskills. Honestly, the advanced recipe book reward is decent for those that may be missing some. I only did the quest on one character on live. My provisioner. I know they are just fluff items, but it's certainly something different. When I first got the quest on test I kind of expected the "treasured" recipes similar to hopples apple pie. But I was a bit suprised as it was outside the norm. For some reason I am rather optimistic about it, it is outside the normal realm of provisioning - even if it's fluff, it's different. Can't say the same for my sage. __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

09-19-2007, 06:46 PM	#1
Thunderthyze Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 2,050	Question....you get 3 recipes with this book. 1. You get to throw chocolate cake at people in the same way as you did with snowballs. Errr..........ok 2. You get to turn into a random race for 6 hours. Well...actually....the transformation is reset if you zone 3. You get to fall over drunk. Right, #1 is ok although may well end up becoming a tad annoying after a while. #2 is actually quite cool and it is unfortunate that you have to recast every time you zone. But #3......! I mean.....what!? What the hell is the point of this or am I missing something? Don't we have enough monks, SKs and necros feigning death all over the place in QH and EFP that we need everyone to have the ability? Now if the effect was to make the imbiber shamble off to the nearest guard and pick a fight I could quite like that...but at the moment, failing to see the point. __________________

09-19-2007, 06:49 PM	#2
Thunderthyze Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 2,050	Just a thought for future volumes. Maybe you could throw cream pies that end up sticking to the face of the character for 30 seconds or so? __________________

09-19-2007, 07:33 PM	#3
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	Two words:Jell-o Shots. __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

09-20-2007, 02:10 PM	#9
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Nolus@Antonia Bayle wrote: Looker1010 wrote: Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah. I'm pretty darn pessimistic when it comes to tradeskills. Honestly, the advanced recipe book reward is decent for those that may be missing some. I only did the quest on one character on live. My provisioner. I know they are just fluff items, but it's certainly something different. When I first got the quest on test I kind of expected the "treasured" recipes similar to hopples apple pie. But I was a bit suprised as it was outside the norm. For some reason I am rather optimistic about it, it is outside the normal realm of provisioning - even if it's fluff, it's different. Can't say the same for my sage. I still think that Provies should be able to make placable food iteams(like the frostfell stuff) for peoples houses and these also could fall into the Mastercrafted catigory as they could use rare "preservitives" like say Dirt.. er Loam. __________________

09-20-2007, 02:34 PM	#10
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	If the falling over drunk thing worked like FD it would be awesome - most purchased drink in all of Norrath. I could see that - 30min duration drink, no stats but could cast FD (Fallen Drunk) which would work like Feign Death with a recast of 1 min. That would be amazing... casters everywhere would rejoice! (because the tinkered thing sucks with a 30min recast

09-20-2007, 02:46 PM	#11
rumblepants General Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 353	I still have the snowballs from last year that I use to pelt certain NPCs for annoying me. Now I have chocolate cake. Most excellent.

09-20-2007, 02:47 PM	#12
Aurumn Server: Unrest Guild: Executioners Rank: Teen of chaos (2 weeks + 6,857 astatus) Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,328	Hehe... can you imagine bringing a six-pack as a requirement for raid attendance? Brings a whole new meaning to "Hall Crawl", now don't it?

09-20-2007, 02:54 PM	#13
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	Aurumn@Unrest wrote: Hehe... can you imagine bringing a six-pack as a requirement for raid attendance? Brings a whole new meaning to "Hall Crawl", now don't it? You mean that isn't how it is right now ? Oh... Oops

09-20-2007, 03:11 PM	#14
Cadori Seraphim Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 965	ke'la wrote: Nolus@Antonia Bayle wrote: Looker1010 wrote: Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah. I'm pretty darn pessimistic when it comes to tradeskills. Honestly, the advanced recipe book reward is decent for those that may be missing some. I only did the quest on one character on live. My provisioner. I know they are just fluff items, but it's certainly something different. When I first got the quest on test I kind of expected the "treasured" recipes similar to hopples apple pie. But I was a bit suprised as it was outside the norm. For some reason I am rather optimistic about it, it is outside the normal realm of provisioning - even if it's fluff, it's different. Can't say the same for my sage. I still think that Provies should be able to make placable food iteams(like the frostfell stuff) for peoples houses and these also could fall into the Mastercrafted catigory as they could use rare "preservitives" like say Dirt.. er Loam. I 100% agree. It would be nice if provs can make house food items Give us the love!

09-20-2007, 05:49 PM	#15
Lutefisk Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 68	As a non-provisioner, I can only say that the special provisioner recipes are "cute". They MIGHT be salable, but the non-critical nature of the effects militates against repeat sales. It's a really good try at giving the provisioners something "advanced" with which to compete.Cake -- great for those who ran out of stockpiled snowballs, and likely popular on the PvP servers to allow for offensive action without consequences (e.g., low-level toon pelting a red-conned goon, or a yellow-orange gankgang).Jester Cap -- fun spell, but being cancelled on zoning is annoying. A shorter but more persistent effect would be better. (And yes, there may be programming reasons for not doing so.)FD drink -- Would be a lot more fun if the character caption greyed out and were changed to the "Corpse of ..." message. Plus, upon an attempted rez, the corpse should reply to the rezzer, "I'm not dead yet!" This effect would be especially useful in PvP.It would have been nice for the provisioners to receive at least ONE useful, non-gag recipe in the book.Finally, note that the recipes might have been more popular if they hadn't come shortly after the incidence of sparkling and glimmering material was reduced, such that prices for each now seem to hover around 1g. It's still a very good use of those resources.BUT, we tradeskill aficionados must give tremendous credit and thanks to Domino for her efforts to make tradeskilling more interesting and engaging. The changes over the last few months have been tremendously good.THANK YOU DOMINO !!!

09-20-2007, 06:41 PM	#16
Thunderthyze Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 2,050	I think the time has come for us now to turn our attention to suggesting recipes for Provisioner Mastery Volume 2? __________________

09-20-2007, 06:58 PM	#17
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	Aurumn@Unrest wrote: Hehe... can you imagine bringing a six-pack as a requirement for raid attendance? Brings a whole new meaning to "Hall Crawl", now don't it? If you are only bringing a six pack to a raid, it must be a short hall

09-21-2007, 04:28 AM	#18
Somniloquy Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 72	ke'la wrote: Nolus@Antonia Bayle wrote: I still think that Provies should be able to make placable food iteams(like the frostfell stuff) for peoples houses and these also could fall into the Mastercrafted catigory as they could use rare "preservitives" like say Dirt.. er Loam. I think this is a great idea. Some could use the rare loams and some the rare root, maybe. It would fit in with the profession really well, too.A few extra reipes per level would help get away from the grind and the chaining of Rush Orders that it currently is.Someone said "Can't say the same for my Sage". Couldn't agree more, the class that makes nothing that anyone really wants beyond T3 (at best) without using a rare.

09-21-2007, 08:11 AM	#19
Mystfit Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,984	Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny. __________________

09-21-2007, 10:24 AM	#20
Aurumn Server: Unrest Guild: Executioners Rank: Teen of chaos (2 weeks + 6,857 astatus) Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,328	Mystfit wrote: Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny. Seriously?! Grrr! Why must I be at work? curse you bills! Hmm, maybe one of my guildies will let me get their horse drunk. I totally want a screenshot of that.

09-21-2007, 10:50 AM	#21
Rijacki Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,842	Mystfit wrote: Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny. I am so glad I'm not drinking coffee right now. That is just tooooo funny! __________________

09-21-2007, 11:12 AM	#22
Vonotar Server: Butcherblock Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,697	The Mastery spells are a nice addition, but I'd hate to think they are designed to be the de facto 'equivalent' of the Advanced recipes that other tradeskill classes get.Personally I would like to see house food, and plant/flower type items appearing in proper Advanced Provisioner books. While I understand this might slightly step on Carpenters toes, as somebody who has both tradeskills I would endorse this idea.The 'Mastery' spellbook should instead be seen as an equivalent to the 'Ancient Teachings' type scrolls that other tradeskills get.

09-21-2007, 11:24 AM	#23
Domino Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,046	Vonotar@Butcherblock wrote: The 'Mastery' spellbook should instead be seen as an equivalent to the 'Ancient Teachings' type scrolls that other tradeskills get. That's a much better way of looking at it. You'll note they don't use true rares, they're not true "advanced" books.Of course, those who believe nothing is better than something fun, can always keep in mind they can still be removed again. :pI actually had no idea the horse would pass out too, I never thought to test it on a horse. That's great! Our art department is teh win! And yes there will be a few more similar coming when the art requests are complete, not till after RoK however.

09-21-2007, 11:30 AM	#24
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	DominoDev wrote: Vonotar@Butcherblock wrote: The 'Mastery' spellbook should instead be seen as an equivalent to the 'Ancient Teachings' type scrolls that other tradeskills get. That's a much better way of looking at it. You'll note they don't use true rares, they're not true "advanced" books.Of course, those who believe nothing is better than something fun, can always keep in mind they can still be removed again. :pI actually had no idea the horse would pass out too, I never thought to test it on a horse. That's great! Our art department is teh win! " width="15" height="15" /> And yes there will be a few more similar coming when the art requests are complete, not till after RoK however. Ok now I gotta see this Domino. If the horse passes out drunk then you eq2 guys are gods in my eyes. __________________

09-21-2007, 11:31 AM	#25
liveja General Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Posts: 4,793	Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote: Just a thought for future volumes. Maybe you could throw cream pies that end up sticking to the face of the character for 30 seconds or so? & going along with this thought ... can they be made such that we can throw them at forum posters, so that creamy goodness sticks to their posting avatar for some long period of time? Maybe the more people who throw pies at people, the more cream sticks to that person's posting avatar, so that way we could REALLY see the posters whom most of the community think to be nit-wits? Because that would sooooooo rock. __________________

09-21-2007, 11:31 AM	#26
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09-21-2007, 11:57 AM	#27
Finora Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,423	ROFL, horses that pass out oh my. I should have made some of that instead of the illusion stuff with my provie =). Looker1010 wrote: Eight tradeskills get a truly useful item, an advanced recipe book which they can scribe or sell. Provisioners get 3 totally useless spells. Sorry but I just don't see this as fair. They could have given us at least one real, useful spell but they chose thrown cake, zone vanishing random illusions and a message that it's cool to drink til you pass out. Bah. And bah. I haven't done these quests with anyone BUT my provisioner (though I really should see if I can get those last few books I need on my weaponsmith). I thought they were fantastic. Not everything has to be 'useful' to be a great deal of fun. Everyone else got the same old same old they've been able to get all along, just they got the chance to get it from a quest rather than getting lucky on a drop or buying it from the broker. We provisioners got something new and FUN. I think that's FAR superiour to what the other trade classes get for the quest (except maybe lucky jewelers who get book 28 from the quest =0 ). If you don't like them, don't do the quest and don't make or use the recipes. Those of us out there who think they are awesome will continue to have our fun. I'm throughly looking forward to the next set for Provisioners myself. I do keep hoping for placeable house food =), but more fun stuff would be acceptable as well. __________________ Lady Finora Mystic of Prism Everfrost(Grobb) Finora of Valiant Knights Test Server

09-21-2007, 12:37 PM	#28
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	Mystfit wrote: Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny. OMG!!! hehe. I'll have to try it on my Warg. __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

09-21-2007, 12:44 PM	#29
novok Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 114	Horses passing out drunk? Oh my. Whatever will Thibor24 think of THIS? __________________

09-21-2007, 12:52 PM	#30
Krystara Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 403	Mystfit wrote: Ok, first of all, I LOVE the Hair of the DOg recipe, LOVE IT.....have ya'll tried it on horseback?! Since I craft in Neriak I was on my horse when I did it and it doesn't just FD you, it FD's your horse..who also randomly belches drunkenly in such a way as to make a sailor blush. It's too funny. Oh now that I have got to try!!!!! I can't wait to tell Drakael whose been nagging at me to get to work on his Hair of the Dogs. I love our new recipes - they are such fun. I'd love more placeable food like the frostfell items.. those were so much fun to make and everyone wanted them.