A definitive answer for skilling up Transmuting

Efour EQ2 · 07-29-2007, 06:42 PM

Ive been reading through all the information here and now have a question about skilling up and grey recipes. Would it be possible to max out skill on grey combines? ie just doing t1 and t2 stuff all the way to 300+? I seem to get gains from grey stuff anyway has anyone actually tried this? Skill gains seem random enough as it is (1 in 4 chance?) and have had plenty using left over material from lower combines when i have had spare stuff left over from previous tiers. yes my mind is fried sorry if that makes sense. /walks off to broker and buys every adept 1 for sale again.

Valsehna · 07-29-2007, 06:48 PM

Thats how I've been doing it, and works fine for me.

Squigglle · 07-29-2007, 06:48 PM

i think you can

Efour EQ2 · 07-29-2007, 06:50 PM

Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Thats how I've been doing it, and works fine for me.

can i be so bold to ask what level you are ?

dartie · 07-29-2007, 07:04 PM

Efour@Splitpaw wrote:

Ive been reading through all the information here and now have a question about skilling up and grey recipes. Would it be possible to max out skill on grey combines? ie just doing t1 and t2 stuff all the way to 300+? I seem to get gains from grey stuff anyway has anyone actually tried this? Skill gains seem random enough as it is (1 in 4 chance?) and have had plenty using left over material from lower combines when i have had spare stuff left over from previous tiers. yes my mind is fried sorry if that makes sense. /walks off to broker and buys every adept 1 for sale again.

That's exactly how my tailor cruised to 350 transmuting.

I blew stuff up till I hit 100. I then made the flickering viral temper over and over and over and over and over . . .

Eventually, I was 350.

In case you're interested, I didn't buy Ad1s off the broker unless they were cheaper than 1.5 gold. I got a lot of my mats by level locking an alt on the queen's colony. (A monk with mastercrafted leather and a complete set of T1 adorns can harvest treasured loot very quickly.) However, I eventually decided I had WAY too many fragments and needed to focus on powders. At that point, the fact that my tailor could make T1 AD3s came in very handy. I bought copper whenever it dipped below 4 gold, made a L1 AD3, and then munged the AD3 for a 75% chance at a powder (vs. the 25% chance those AD1s give you).

Good luck.

Deson · 07-29-2007, 09:32 PM

dartie wrote:

Efour@Splitpaw wrote:
Ive been reading through all the information here and now have a question about skilling up and grey recipes. Would it be possible to max out skill on grey combines? ie just doing t1 and t2 stuff all the way to 300+? I seem to get gains from grey stuff anyway has anyone actually tried this? Skill gains seem random enough as it is (1 in 4 chance?) and have had plenty using left over material from lower combines when i have had spare stuff left over from previous tiers. yes my mind is fried sorry if that makes sense. /walks off to broker and buys every adept 1 for sale again.
That's exactly how my tailor cruised to 350 transmuting.
I blew stuff up till I hit 100. I then made the flickering viral temper over and over and over and over and over . . .
Eventually, I was 350.
In case you're interested, I didn't buy Ad1s off the broker unless they were cheaper than 1.5 gold. I got a lot of my mats by level locking an alt on the queen's colony. (A monk with mastercrafted leather and a complete set of T1 adorns can harvest treasured loot very quickly.) However, I eventually decided I had WAY too many fragments and needed to focus on powders. At that point, the fact that my tailor could make T1 AD3s came in very handy. I bought copper whenever it dipped below 4 gold, made a L1 AD3, and then munged the AD3 for a 75% chance at a powder (vs. the 25% chance those AD1s give you).
Good luck.

Same as Dartie except I didn't do the level locking thing. I harvested almost exclusively for my rares, converted them then crafted them.Took about 2 weeks to a month to cap(I took breaks and had varying playtime so the time is a guesstimate.)

Calthine · 07-29-2007, 09:34 PM

You absolutely can. Mind you, your chance of a skillup on a grey recipe drops to 25%. It's the "cheap but not fast" method. As a matter of fact, shortly after these new forums went up someone posted that they maxed transmuting on nothing but T1.

Deson · 07-29-2007, 09:40 PM

Calthine wrote:

You absolutely can. Mind you, your chance of a skillup on a grey recipe drops to 25%. It's the "cheap but not fast" method. As a matter of fact, shortly after these new forums went up someone posted that they maxed transmuting on nothing but T1.

You know, I've concluded that it depends on what you call fast. If less than a month is what you are after then sure but, if you are about mid levels or lower(and not leveling at break neck speed) or, you can endure a month of not being at cap( a month is still pretty fast to me), then it is definitely both. By the way, the OP question is answered in your FAQ, just not as explicitly as asked.

rumblepants · 07-30-2007, 12:28 PM

That is essentially what I have been doing. I take a quick look at the broker and see what all items I can transmute at my skill level and buy whatever is the cheapest. I also have taken all of my crafting toons to EoF to work on the Ringmail HQ and in doing all the quests from Nursery to that stage usually netted me 20 or so powders per toon per 2-3 game sessions (a few hours each). It's the slow way for me but cheapest to me.

Calthine · 07-30-2007, 05:09 PM

Deson wrote:

By the way, the OP question is answered in your FAQ, just not as explicitly as asked.

Yep. 'Cause I hate guides that are just lists, lol.

Valsehna · 07-31-2007, 12:01 PM

Efour@Splitpaw wrote:

Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Thats how I've been doing it, and works fine for me.
can i be so bold to ask what level you are ?

Yes you may. I am currently at 264. I have not worked on it in a good long while due to being busy with other projects, but I normally do a whole bunch at once when I do.

Valdaglerion · 07-31-2007, 04:23 PM

Yes, you can and I have maxed a toon from 0-350 entirely on T1. First, right after EoF and Transmuting/Tinkering were introduced and again on another toon which completed Transmuting about a week or so ago.

Cuz · 07-31-2007, 06:29 PM

In a bit over 2 hours I've earned 3 skill points doing the Isle of Refuge harvesting thing. I'm only missing 146 points to max, so I should be able to do it in a little less than 100 hours.

Jai1 · 07-31-2007, 10:40 PM

I personnally don't think this is a correct game mechanics atm. Hell, I could care less if someone wants to put 350 skill into isle loot for hours upon hours of farming but /shrug. Why would someone validly be able to craft adornments at T6 if they are working of newb junk?!?! I doesn't make sense and I hope it changes. IMO. Then again, I can spend craploads of plat on getting the same exp, or points, where people can just spend time. Maybe that's the change-off?

edit: I also skill-up 1 out of 2 combines I imagine which is a much better rate than Tinkering.

pointytail · 08-01-2007, 02:46 AM

Omni@Najena wrote:

edit: I also skill-up 1 out of 2 combines I imagine which is a much better rate than Tinkering.

Transmuting and Tinkerering have about the same skill up chance, I do believe. Tackling Even con recipes on my Tinkerer was about 50% chance of skill up and about 25% chance when working the grayed out recipes.

07-29-2007, 06:42 PM	#1
Efour EQ2 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 195	Ive been reading through all the information here and now have a question about skilling up and grey recipes. Would it be possible to max out skill on grey combines? ie just doing t1 and t2 stuff all the way to 300+? I seem to get gains from grey stuff anyway has anyone actually tried this? Skill gains seem random enough as it is (1 in 4 chance?) and have had plenty using left over material from lower combines when i have had spare stuff left over from previous tiers. yes my mind is fried sorry if that makes sense. /walks off to broker and buys every adept 1 for sale again. __________________

07-29-2007, 06:48 PM	#3
Squigglle Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 823	i think you can __________________

07-29-2007, 06:50 PM	#4
Efour EQ2 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 195	Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote: Thats how I've been doing it, and works fine for me. can i be so bold to ask what level you are ? __________________

07-29-2007, 07:04 PM	#5
dartie Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 354	Efour@Splitpaw wrote: Ive been reading through all the information here and now have a question about skilling up and grey recipes. Would it be possible to max out skill on grey combines? ie just doing t1 and t2 stuff all the way to 300+? I seem to get gains from grey stuff anyway has anyone actually tried this? Skill gains seem random enough as it is (1 in 4 chance?) and have had plenty using left over material from lower combines when i have had spare stuff left over from previous tiers. yes my mind is fried sorry if that makes sense. /walks off to broker and buys every adept 1 for sale again. That's exactly how my tailor cruised to 350 transmuting. I blew stuff up till I hit 100. I then made the flickering viral temper over and over and over and over and over . . . Eventually, I was 350. In case you're interested, I didn't buy Ad1s off the broker unless they were cheaper than 1.5 gold. I got a lot of my mats by level locking an alt on the queen's colony. (A monk with mastercrafted leather and a complete set of T1 adorns can harvest treasured loot very quickly.) However, I eventually decided I had WAY too many fragments and needed to focus on powders. At that point, the fact that my tailor could make T1 AD3s came in very handy. I bought copper whenever it dipped below 4 gold, made a L1 AD3, and then munged the AD3 for a 75% chance at a powder (vs. the 25% chance those AD1s give you). Good luck.

07-29-2007, 09:32 PM	#6
Deson Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,754	dartie wrote: Efour@Splitpaw wrote: Ive been reading through all the information here and now have a question about skilling up and grey recipes. Would it be possible to max out skill on grey combines? ie just doing t1 and t2 stuff all the way to 300+? I seem to get gains from grey stuff anyway has anyone actually tried this? Skill gains seem random enough as it is (1 in 4 chance?) and have had plenty using left over material from lower combines when i have had spare stuff left over from previous tiers. yes my mind is fried sorry if that makes sense. /walks off to broker and buys every adept 1 for sale again. That's exactly how my tailor cruised to 350 transmuting. I blew stuff up till I hit 100. I then made the flickering viral temper over and over and over and over and over . . . Eventually, I was 350. In case you're interested, I didn't buy Ad1s off the broker unless they were cheaper than 1.5 gold. I got a lot of my mats by level locking an alt on the queen's colony. (A monk with mastercrafted leather and a complete set of T1 adorns can harvest treasured loot very quickly.) However, I eventually decided I had WAY too many fragments and needed to focus on powders. At that point, the fact that my tailor could make T1 AD3s came in very handy. I bought copper whenever it dipped below 4 gold, made a L1 AD3, and then munged the AD3 for a 75% chance at a powder (vs. the 25% chance those AD1s give you). Good luck. Same as Dartie except I didn't do the level locking thing. I harvested almost exclusively for my rares, converted them then crafted them.Took about 2 weeks to a month to cap(I took breaks and had varying playtime so the time is a guesstimate.) __________________ I will not let Domino break my doom and gloom. I will not let Domino break my doom and gloom.I will not let Domino break my doom and gloom.I will not let Domino break my doom and gloom.I will not let Domino break...

07-29-2007, 06:48 PM	#2
Valsehna Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: House Velahr Rank: Senior Officer - Rhystall Council Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 228	Thats how I've been doing it, and works fine for me.

07-29-2007, 09:34 PM	#7
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	You absolutely can. Mind you, your chance of a skillup on a grey recipe drops to 25%. It's the "cheap but not fast" method. As a matter of fact, shortly after these new forums went up someone posted that they maxed transmuting on nothing but T1. __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

07-29-2007, 09:40 PM	#8
Deson Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,754	Calthine wrote: You absolutely can. Mind you, your chance of a skillup on a grey recipe drops to 25%. It's the "cheap but not fast" method. As a matter of fact, shortly after these new forums went up someone posted that they maxed transmuting on nothing but T1. You know, I've concluded that it depends on what you call fast. If less than a month is what you are after then sure but, if you are about mid levels or lower(and not leveling at break neck speed) or, you can endure a month of not being at cap( a month is still pretty fast to me), then it is definitely both. By the way, the OP question is answered in your FAQ, just not as explicitly as asked. __________________ I will not let Domino break my doom and gloom. I will not let Domino break my doom and gloom.I will not let Domino break my doom and gloom.I will not let Domino break my doom and gloom.I will not let Domino break...

07-30-2007, 12:28 PM	#9
rumblepants General Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 353	That is essentially what I have been doing. I take a quick look at the broker and see what all items I can transmute at my skill level and buy whatever is the cheapest. I also have taken all of my crafting toons to EoF to work on the Ringmail HQ and in doing all the quests from Nursery to that stage usually netted me 20 or so powders per toon per 2-3 game sessions (a few hours each). It's the slow way for me but cheapest to me.

07-30-2007, 05:09 PM	#10
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	Deson wrote: By the way, the OP question is answered in your FAQ, just not as explicitly as asked. Yep. 'Cause I hate guides that are just lists, lol. __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

07-31-2007, 12:01 PM	#11
Valsehna Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: House Velahr Rank: Senior Officer - Rhystall Council Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 228	Efour@Splitpaw wrote: Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote: Thats how I've been doing it, and works fine for me. can i be so bold to ask what level you are ? Yes you may. I am currently at 264. I have not worked on it in a good long while due to being busy with other projects, but I normally do a whole bunch at once when I do.

07-31-2007, 04:23 PM	#12
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	Yes, you can and I have maxed a toon from 0-350 entirely on T1. First, right after EoF and Transmuting/Tinkering were introduced and again on another toon which completed Transmuting about a week or so ago.

07-31-2007, 06:29 PM	#13
Cuz Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 825	In a bit over 2 hours I've earned 3 skill points doing the Isle of Refuge harvesting thing. I'm only missing 146 points to max, so I should be able to do it in a little less than 100 hours. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ one immature posted ------------------------------------------------------------

07-31-2007, 10:40 PM	#14
Jai1 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 618	I personnally don't think this is a correct game mechanics atm. Hell, I could care less if someone wants to put 350 skill into isle loot for hours upon hours of farming but /shrug. Why would someone validly be able to craft adornments at T6 if they are working of newb junk?!?! I doesn't make sense and I hope it changes. IMO. Then again, I can spend craploads of plat on getting the same exp, or points, where people can just spend time. Maybe that's the change-off? edit: I also skill-up 1 out of 2 combines I imagine which is a much better rate than Tinkering.

08-01-2007, 02:46 AM	#15
pointytail Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 145	Omni@Najena wrote: edit: I also skill-up 1 out of 2 combines I imagine which is a much better rate than Tinkering. Transmuting and Tinkerering have about the same skill up chance, I do believe. Tackling Even con recipes on my Tinkerer was about 50% chance of skill up and about 25% chance when working the grayed out recipes. __________________ - Kretyn, Kshif, Keljit, Spiketail, and Blightedleaf of Chosen Heroes - Najena - ~ Choices. There is always a price to pay no matter what the result is. ~* This message brought to you by the Choices Have Consequences* Council and boredom.