Potions seem a little weak?

Lakaah · 07-13-2007, 10:08 AM

I'm not in game at the moment to check exact numbers, but if my memory serves me well, mastercrafted health potions seem to return roughly 5% of a players health, and mastercrafted power potions give barely enough power to cast one large heal spell. Especially considering the long recast timer on these (nearly 3 minutes), the effect seems awfully weak. Barely worth carrying imo, let alone collecting the dusts and taking the time to craft them. Any opinions?

Terron · 07-13-2007, 12:05 PM

Lakaah wrote:

I'm not in game at the moment to check exact numbers, but if my memory serves me well, mastercrafted health potions seem to return roughly 5% of a players health, and mastercrafted power potions give barely enough power to cast one large heal spell. Especially considering the long recast timer on these (nearly 3 minutes), the effect seems awfully weak. Barely worth carrying imo, let alone collecting the dusts and taking the time to craft them. Any opinions?

They are weak. The only reason for making mastercrafted ones I can see is the bonus xp for the alchemist. There are butter uses for the dusts.

nosfeas · 07-13-2007, 05:02 PM

Yes they really need to take a look at the potions and revamp them. Healing for 200 or less hitpoints with a healing type potion when you have over 1,000 hitpoints dont help much. I can see why they do this with the healing potions but all potions really need to be looked at.

Bloodfa · 07-13-2007, 05:20 PM

Healing potions are supposed to be a last ditch effort to keep you alive, not a Warden-in-a-bottle. Somethign to give you an edge, not double your hit points.

Uilamin · 07-13-2007, 05:32 PM

Well they would be interesting if changed to a 10% heal with a 30min reuse, for both the power and health potions.

Bloodfa · 07-13-2007, 05:42 PM

You mean nerf potions? They're only good for 1-shot during a fight anyway, because of the re-use.

Mighty Melvor · 07-13-2007, 05:49 PM

Lakaah wrote:

I'm not in game at the moment to check exact numbers, but if my memory serves me well, mastercrafted health potions seem to return roughly 5% of a players health, and mastercrafted power potions give barely enough power to cast one large heal spell. Especially considering the long recast timer on these (nearly 3 minutes), the effect seems awfully weak. Barely worth carrying imo, let alone collecting the dusts and taking the time to craft them. Any opinions?

I'll have to agree here. My alchemist doesn't even bother making them and concentrates on poisons and buff potions.

Healing potions are very weak considering their cast time. By time you wait out the cast time, you take more damage than the potion will heal. Would be nice to see something improved with heal potions. Perhaps lowering the casting times would help. Not sure increasing their overall effectiveness would be balanced.

littleman17 · 07-13-2007, 06:02 PM

I think lowering the cast times to instant and slightly raising the effects would fix them without making them overly powerful. Ask yourselves this devs... how long does it take you to drink something the volume of around a shot glass? I don't drink alchohol, but I do use the shot glasses just for the heck of it sometimes, and I can down an entire one in a single gulp.

Granted, popping the little cork off could take some time, so make the cast times... .3 seconds or something low like that. That is all.

07-13-2007, 12:05 PM	#2
Terron Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, England Posts: 2,309	Lakaah wrote: I'm not in game at the moment to check exact numbers, but if my memory serves me well, mastercrafted health potions seem to return roughly 5% of a players health, and mastercrafted power potions give barely enough power to cast one large heal spell. Especially considering the long recast timer on these (nearly 3 minutes), the effect seems awfully weak. Barely worth carrying imo, let alone collecting the dusts and taking the time to craft them. Any opinions? They are weak. The only reason for making mastercrafted ones I can see is the bonus xp for the alchemist. There are butter uses for the dusts. __________________

07-13-2007, 05:20 PM	#4
Bloodfa Server: Nagafen General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,873	Healing potions are supposed to be a last ditch effort to keep you alive, not a Warden-in-a-bottle. Somethign to give you an edge, not double your hit points. __________________

07-13-2007, 05:42 PM	#6
Bloodfa Server: Nagafen General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,873	You mean nerf potions? They're only good for 1-shot during a fight anyway, because of the re-use. __________________

07-13-2007, 05:49 PM	#7
Mighty Melvor Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 539	Lakaah wrote: I'm not in game at the moment to check exact numbers, but if my memory serves me well, mastercrafted health potions seem to return roughly 5% of a players health, and mastercrafted power potions give barely enough power to cast one large heal spell. Especially considering the long recast timer on these (nearly 3 minutes), the effect seems awfully weak. Barely worth carrying imo, let alone collecting the dusts and taking the time to craft them. Any opinions? I'll have to agree here. My alchemist doesn't even bother making them and concentrates on poisons and buff potions. Healing potions are very weak considering their cast time. By time you wait out the cast time, you take more damage than the potion will heal. Would be nice to see something improved with heal potions. Perhaps lowering the casting times would help. Not sure increasing their overall effectiveness would be balanced.

07-13-2007, 06:02 PM	#8
littleman17 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 675	I think lowering the cast times to instant and slightly raising the effects would fix them without making them overly powerful. Ask yourselves this devs... how long does it take you to drink something the volume of around a shot glass? I don't drink alchohol, but I do use the shot glasses just for the heck of it sometimes, and I can down an entire one in a single gulp. Granted, popping the little cork off could take some time, so make the cast times... .3 seconds or something low like that. That is all. __________________ Faynar: Level 71 Ranger Daynar: Level 57 Bruiser Tulnar: Level 61 Necromancer Kulnar: Level 50 Templar Bronar: Level 43 Paladin Vronar: Level 40 Defiler Everfrost FTW!

07-13-2007, 10:08 AM	#1
Lakaah Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 192	I'm not in game at the moment to check exact numbers, but if my memory serves me well, mastercrafted health potions seem to return roughly 5% of a players health, and mastercrafted power potions give barely enough power to cast one large heal spell. Especially considering the long recast timer on these (nearly 3 minutes), the effect seems awfully weak. Barely worth carrying imo, let alone collecting the dusts and taking the time to craft them. Any opinions?

07-13-2007, 05:02 PM	#3
nosfeas General Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9	Yes they really need to take a look at the potions and revamp them. Healing for 200 or less hitpoints with a healing type potion when you have over 1,000 hitpoints dont help much. I can see why they do this with the healing potions but all potions really need to be looked at.

07-13-2007, 05:32 PM	#5
Uilamin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 427	Well they would be interesting if changed to a 10% heal with a 30min reuse, for both the power and health potions.