Ice Comet / Nova - Dont Nerf it =(

Legiax · 06-20-2007, 05:04 AM

Well,

Now that damage has been reduced, fusion has been nerfed, and decap / assassinate "etc" are going back to normal... I BEG you to leave Ice Comet / Nova as it currently stands.

Right now, Ice Comet / Nova will hit for around 30-40% of a persons life.... on a crit, vs legendary / fabled gear, then its down for 45 seconds (40 seconds with AApts). Now, if you reduce the damage output of the spell, you are essentially giving us the fury spell Bolt of Storms MK2 tbh =(

Leave the spell how it is, and simply scale it down with everything else, but do NOT nerf it like Fusion has been... its our bread and butter, and our class defining spell, like assassinate and decap etc, there is no need to reduce it, as currently it doesnt hit amazingly high anyway.

Post here and support Ice Comet / Nova NOT being nerfed tbh.

Dalwar · 06-20-2007, 05:33 AM

Its big joke.

But imagine what alse can they do... in the world where on every step i meet fury brigand and assassin... 80% of servers population they wont nerv them they will [Removed for Content] up the poor clothy ;/

Zaba Warden (first and last toon)

Elephanton · 06-20-2007, 06:16 AM

These spells should be nerfed because outright resists almost do not exist any longer (on test server). Pretty much every spell lands now.

Legiax · 06-20-2007, 06:22 AM

So they should be nerfed more heavily than anyone else? ....... erm no.

Scale them down with everything else, but do not reduce Ice Comet / Nova, in the same context as Fusion

Krokous · 06-20-2007, 08:43 AM

are you serious?? im level 65 now and i get 1 shotted from wizzards, just BAM! and i can revive. no scout can do this, now go home

Legiax · 06-20-2007, 09:21 AM

decap, HT, Sniper Shot = all 1 shot.

So, which scout cant do this sorry? L2P, and your being hit by a lvl 70 ability at 65.... go figure?

Krokous · 06-20-2007, 12:10 PM

Narl@Nagafen wrote:

decap, HT, Sniper Shot = all 1 shot.
So, which scout cant do this sorry? L2P, and your being hit by a lvl 70 ability at 65.... go figure?

i am sk and i can assure you my master HT with offnsive stance and battle leadrship aa cant do a s h ! t through your manashield, as i say, BAM!

Legiax · 06-20-2007, 12:13 PM

Thats an AA ability, we are talking about the actual abilities. You can get a reflect, use it tbh and make me "BAM" myself.

Its not hard to see when im stood casting for 4 seconds with a huge ball of ice in my hands.... /sigh.

Hon · 06-20-2007, 12:21 PM

Narl@Nagafen wrote:

.... and decap / assassinate "etc" are going back to normal...

These abilities are still being reduced in the overall damage reduction to the scout class... they are just not seeing a double nerf... as in reduction to class and reduction to abilities.

The wizard class got a overall reduction in your spells abilities (same as scouts), but resists were also changed to nearly non-exsistant. This is why your spells also recieved a direct damage reduction, which is softened by the fact the resist system is changed. However, I'd be happy to return your old spell damage for a return of the old spell resist system if you like.

Legiax · 06-20-2007, 12:25 PM

Read the original post carefully, and L 2 Read, i stated I was on about keep ice comet reduced as "normal", as per the reductions across the board, just do not double nerf it.

Hon · 06-20-2007, 12:32 PM

Narl@Nagafen wrote:

Read the original post carefully, and L 2 Read, i stated I was on about keep ice comet reduced as "normal", as per the reductions across the board, just do not double nerf it.

So you'd be okay to return the resists to the old way?

Legiax · 06-20-2007, 12:37 PM

No, i would be happy for Ice Comet / Nova to be reduced in line with everything else, and thats it.

The resist system was broken, and got fixed... ice comet just needs to be reduced inline with decap / HT etc, and then all is fine, nerfing the supposed hardest hitting single target class in the game to a second grade fury... is not balanced.

Scatimus · 06-20-2007, 01:01 PM

im surprised they just didnt take them out of the game enitrely. lol. they made this GU a joke to mages again. the new manashield is nice, but it will not change too much in the long run.

someday wizzys will get some dev love, but not this time around. i would have been fine with the changes if they had kept the changes as they were originally intended to be, but they keep raising the damage to everyone else's spells/abilities and keep reducing wizzy spells.

im glad they are fixing the resists though.

Pumancat · 06-21-2007, 07:38 PM

Honos wrote:

Narl@Nagafen wrote:
.... and decap / assassinate "etc" are going back to normal...
These abilities are still being reduced in the overall damage reduction to the scout class... they are just not seeing a double nerf... as in reduction to class and reduction to abilities.
The wizard class got a overall reduction in your spells abilities (same as scouts), but resists were also changed to nearly non-exsistant. This is why your spells also recieved a direct damage reduction, which is softened by the fact the resist system is changed. However, I'd be happy to return your old spell damage for a return of the old spell resist system if you like.

Are you referring to the resist system that had melee and hybrid classes resisting everything, while the mage classes got hit with everything?

Nyarlath - 70 wizard

Venekor server

Eybietie · 06-21-2007, 07:45 PM

/signed - because a good friend of mine is a wizard too and i don´t like seeing him crying SMILEY

Yahshua · 06-21-2007, 08:04 PM

/signed Get real SOE...we're still clothies and keeping us alive another few seconds isn't "helping" us.

Eybietie · 06-21-2007, 08:11 PM

so you have a wizard and a paladin? that´s quadruple nerfed ^^

Yahshua · 06-21-2007, 08:15 PM

Yeah ... so I REALLY deserve to be ticked SMILEY

Eybietie · 06-21-2007, 08:20 PM

SMILEY next toon will be a necromancer? SMILEY

Jayby · 06-21-2007, 10:34 PM

I have played many char's and wizzy/warlock are the least of my concerns when it comes to a pvp battle especially with my brig... leave them alone, they put up a decent fight... nerf druids if anything. make bards stronger but leave the nukers alone...

Bjerde · 06-26-2007, 02:47 PM

I Beta buffed a wiz on Test and Ice Nova sucks tbh

06-20-2007, 12:10 PM	#7
Krokous Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 239	Narl@Nagafen wrote: decap, HT, Sniper Shot = all 1 shot. So, which scout cant do this sorry? L2P, and your being hit by a lvl 70 ability at 65.... go figure? i am sk and i can assure you my master HT with offnsive stance and battle leadrship aa cant do a s h ! t through your manashield, as i say, BAM!

06-20-2007, 12:21 PM	#9
Hon General Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 86	Narl@Nagafen wrote: .... and decap / assassinate "etc" are going back to normal... These abilities are still being reduced in the overall damage reduction to the scout class... they are just not seeing a double nerf... as in reduction to class and reduction to abilities. The wizard class got a overall reduction in your spells abilities (same as scouts), but resists were also changed to nearly non-exsistant. This is why your spells also recieved a direct damage reduction, which is softened by the fact the resist system is changed. However, I'd be happy to return your old spell damage for a return of the old spell resist system if you like.

06-20-2007, 12:32 PM	#11
Hon General Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 86	Narl@Nagafen wrote: Read the original post carefully, and L 2 Read, i stated I was on about keep ice comet reduced as "normal", as per the reductions across the board, just do not double nerf it. So you'd be okay to return the resists to the old way?

06-21-2007, 07:38 PM	#14
Pumancat Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 223	Honos wrote: Narl@Nagafen wrote: .... and decap / assassinate "etc" are going back to normal... These abilities are still being reduced in the overall damage reduction to the scout class... they are just not seeing a double nerf... as in reduction to class and reduction to abilities. The wizard class got a overall reduction in your spells abilities (same as scouts), but resists were also changed to nearly non-exsistant. This is why your spells also recieved a direct damage reduction, which is softened by the fact the resist system is changed. However, I'd be happy to return your old spell damage for a return of the old spell resist system if you like. Are you referring to the resist system that had melee and hybrid classes resisting everything, while the mage classes got hit with everything? Nyarlath - 70 wizard Venekor server

06-26-2007, 02:47 PM	#21
Bjerde Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 412	I Beta buffed a wiz on Test and Ice Nova sucks tbh __________________ Everfrost.Wikkan - Battlegrounds

06-20-2007, 05:04 AM	#1
Legiax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Posts: 353	Well, Now that damage has been reduced, fusion has been nerfed, and decap / assassinate "etc" are going back to normal... I BEG you to leave Ice Comet / Nova as it currently stands. Right now, Ice Comet / Nova will hit for around 30-40% of a persons life.... on a crit, vs legendary / fabled gear, then its down for 45 seconds (40 seconds with AApts). Now, if you reduce the damage output of the spell, you are essentially giving us the fury spell Bolt of Storms MK2 tbh =( Leave the spell how it is, and simply scale it down with everything else, but do NOT nerf it like Fusion has been... its our bread and butter, and our class defining spell, like assassinate and decap etc, there is no need to reduce it, as currently it doesnt hit amazingly high anyway. Post here and support Ice Comet / Nova NOT being nerfed tbh.

06-20-2007, 05:33 AM	#2
Dalwar Lord Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30	Its big joke. But imagine what alse can they do... in the world where on every step i meet fury brigand and assassin... 80% of servers population they wont nerv them they will [Removed for Content] up the poor clothy ;/ Zaba Warden (first and last toon)

06-20-2007, 06:16 AM	#3
Elephanton General Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 985	These spells should be nerfed because outright resists almost do not exist any longer (on test server). Pretty much every spell lands now.

06-20-2007, 06:22 AM	#4
Legiax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Posts: 353	So they should be nerfed more heavily than anyone else? ....... erm no. Scale them down with everything else, but do not reduce Ice Comet / Nova, in the same context as Fusion

06-20-2007, 08:43 AM	#5
Krokous Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 239	are you serious?? im level 65 now and i get 1 shotted from wizzards, just BAM! and i can revive. no scout can do this, now go home

06-20-2007, 09:21 AM	#6
Legiax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Posts: 353	decap, HT, Sniper Shot = all 1 shot. So, which scout cant do this sorry? L2P, and your being hit by a lvl 70 ability at 65.... go figure?

06-20-2007, 12:13 PM	#8
Legiax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Posts: 353	Thats an AA ability, we are talking about the actual abilities. You can get a reflect, use it tbh and make me "BAM" myself. Its not hard to see when im stood casting for 4 seconds with a huge ball of ice in my hands.... /sigh.

06-20-2007, 12:25 PM	#10
Legiax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Posts: 353	Read the original post carefully, and L 2 Read, i stated I was on about keep ice comet reduced as "normal", as per the reductions across the board, just do not double nerf it.

06-20-2007, 12:37 PM	#12
Legiax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Posts: 353	No, i would be happy for Ice Comet / Nova to be reduced in line with everything else, and thats it. The resist system was broken, and got fixed... ice comet just needs to be reduced inline with decap / HT etc, and then all is fine, nerfing the supposed hardest hitting single target class in the game to a second grade fury... is not balanced.

06-20-2007, 01:01 PM	#13
Scatimus Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pa Posts: 42	im surprised they just didnt take them out of the game enitrely. lol. they made this GU a joke to mages again. the new manashield is nice, but it will not change too much in the long run. someday wizzys will get some dev love, but not this time around. i would have been fine with the changes if they had kept the changes as they were originally intended to be, but they keep raising the damage to everyone else's spells/abilities and keep reducing wizzy spells. im glad they are fixing the resists though.

06-21-2007, 07:45 PM	#15
Eybietie Custom Avatar Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 799	/signed - because a good friend of mine is a wizard too and i don´t like seeing him crying

06-21-2007, 08:04 PM	#16
Yahshua Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 62	/signed Get real SOE...we're still clothies and keeping us alive another few seconds isn't "helping" us.

06-21-2007, 08:11 PM	#17
Eybietie Custom Avatar Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 799	so you have a wizard and a paladin? that´s quadruple nerfed ^^

06-21-2007, 08:15 PM	#18
Yahshua Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 62	Yeah ... so I REALLY deserve to be ticked

06-21-2007, 08:20 PM	#19
Eybietie Custom Avatar Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 799	next toon will be a necromancer?

06-21-2007, 10:34 PM	#20
Jayby General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	I have played many char's and wizzy/warlock are the least of my concerns when it comes to a pvp battle especially with my brig... leave them alone, they put up a decent fight... nerf druids if anything. make bards stronger but leave the nukers alone...