Druids...

Confuzzeled · 03-03-2007, 10:46 AM

Hey Everyone,

I guess first of all I should give a bit of background information. I just came back to the game since October '05 last Tuesday. And today I am going to buy EoF. My Main is only level 19, and I am really confused about everything from being gone so long. So I am planning on rolling a new main. I was just wondering if someone could give me the pro's and con's between the two forms of druid (Fury and Warden). For example, which gives better damage, better healing, better direct damage, best area damage. etc. If someone could do this. It would be great and I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks.

EQ2Playa432 · 03-03-2007, 11:18 AM

Druids seem to be flavor of the month at the moment. But furies are extremely fun SMILEY

Here are a few threads you might want to read (there are tons of Warden vs Fury these are only a few with others mixed in) :

And if you choose fury here are some good threads to read:

Ji · 03-03-2007, 11:56 AM

Maybe someone can post the cons of a warden but I've never rolled one. But I have an (almost) 40 Fury so here is my imput.

I play a 70 conj as my main. So dps and my love of pets is important to me. Fury is medium dps but has the ability to charm, mez, melee, nuke, buff group/raid and most important heal. We are back up healers, coercers and mage all rolled in one. We increase int and wis of group very well. We increase mitigation versus all damage. We can charm but only animals and thats an AA ability. We get speed (level 40 and I have 40% and climbing with AAs). We take on forms of animals to increase our combat, speed and healing abilities. We nuke fairly well but our casting times are slow. Also we have ability to port anyone to far distant lands.

All together the Fury is a well rounded, challenging and fun class. I recommend it but again I've never rolled a Warden.

Confuzzeled · 03-03-2007, 12:17 PM

Thanks for the quick replies, but if I may ask... What is DPS SMILEY

, I hear many people talking about it.

Ji · 03-03-2007, 12:20 PM

Damage Per Second or otherwise known as damage output. Casters are high dps and tanks are lower etc.

Sebastien · 03-03-2007, 12:46 PM

Wardens and Furies can also grow into fairly different playstyles, based on how you spend your achievement points in the EoF tree.

Personally I don't think your choice should be based on DPS, but just which class has the "feel" and "style" that appeals to you more. If the healing aspect of the class is more important to you, Warden just might be a better fit (note: that is not the same as saying wardens heal better.. but I do think the class suits someone focused on healing moreso than fury). If you want to emphasize the mage/nuker aspect of the class, either can work, but you are making a case for Fury. If you like the idea of a priest that can heal a group and also top the dps chart at the same time (ie: tank just pulled a large pack of vv mobs and you let lose your master 2 aoe), Fury can't be beat. If you want to be able to give anyone you meet a 45% runspeed buff, Wardens are your class. Etc, etc.

I have played both, but my experience with warden was so long ago that it is no longer relevant.

/edit: forgot to mention.. druids are VERY popular right now.. so if you are one of those players that enjoys being somewhat unique, don't roll a druid heh.

Amitee · 03-03-2007, 01:12 PM

To simplify what the Fury vs. Warden is all about (it's so much more, but this usually helps people make a choice quicker): If you like to nuke, choose Fury, if you like to melee, choose Warden. (both can do either, but I feel each class is underutilized if you don't take advantage of their new "direction&quot SMILEY

. If you want group invisy, choose Fury, if you want group Evac, choose Warden.

Confuzzeled · 03-03-2007, 01:14 PM

Thanks for all the quick replies. By the sounds of things, The fury sounds right for me. As I like the mage feel of spells, and I like buffs, and lots of damage. And I really chose this class because I want to have portals once I am high enough in level. Thanks so much for the help everyone. So, by the things that I want. Damage, Soloing, Buffs, And cool spells. lol, does this sound like the right thing for me SMILEY

Thanks.

Looker1010 · 03-03-2007, 01:48 PM

Druids are healers first and anything else, including DPS dealers, second. I love my warden and, if given the chance to reset her, would still pick warden.

If you're that concerned with dealing damage perhaps a class like paladin which is basically a tank with healing and eventually rez. Sounds to me closer to what you're looking for.

Whatever you choose, welcome back to what, despite its many problems, is the best MMORPG there is.

HBP · 03-04-2007, 03:49 AM

Jixx wrote:

Maybe someone can post the cons of a warden but I've never rolled one. But I have an (almost) 40 Fury so here is my imput.
I play a 70 conj as my main. So dps and my love of pets is important to me. Fury is medium dps but has the ability to charm, mez, melee, nuke, buff group/raid and most important heal. We are back up healers, coercers and mage all rolled in one. We increase int and wis of group very well. We increase mitigation versus all damage. We can charm but only animals and thats an AA ability. We get speed (level 40 and I have 40% and climbing with AAs). We take on forms of animals to increase our combat, speed and healing abilities. We nuke fairly well but our casting times are slow. Also we have ability to port anyone to far distant lands.
All together the Fury is a well rounded, challenging and fun class. I recommend it but again I've never rolled a Warden.

Well, I wouldn't really go that far into describing a Fury SMILEY Druids can "mez" and "charm," but only animals and charming an animal takes up 3 concentration slots, which means you have to sacrifice group buffs and self buffs which decrease your dps SMILEY

A more accurate description: The Nuking Healer.

03-03-2007, 10:46 AM	#1
Confuzzeled Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 47	Hey Everyone, I guess first of all I should give a bit of background information. I just came back to the game since October '05 last Tuesday. And today I am going to buy EoF. My Main is only level 19, and I am really confused about everything from being gone so long. So I am planning on rolling a new main. I was just wondering if someone could give me the pro's and con's between the two forms of druid (Fury and Warden). For example, which gives better damage, better healing, better direct damage, best area damage. etc. If someone could do this. It would be great and I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. __________________

03-03-2007, 11:18 AM	#2
EQ2Playa432 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 966	Druids seem to be flavor of the month at the moment. But furies are extremely fun Here are a few threads you might want to read (there are tons of Warden vs Fury these are only a few with others mixed in) : Warden Vs Fury Are fury's really slow at killing and leveling? Fury or Warden Fury vs. Warden Fury DPS vs Warden DPS Fury or Wizard? Monk - Fury? Warden? Warden & Fury = not enough differences? And if you choose fury here are some good threads to read: Fury Spells and Achievements Need DPS advice Just looking for some help on a few topics about furies.. INT vs WIS

03-03-2007, 12:17 PM	#4
Confuzzeled Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 47	Thanks for the quick replies, but if I may ask... What is DPS, I hear many people talking about it. __________________

03-03-2007, 12:46 PM	#6
Sebastien Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 689	Wardens and Furies can also grow into fairly different playstyles, based on how you spend your achievement points in the EoF tree. Personally I don't think your choice should be based on DPS, but just which class has the "feel" and "style" that appeals to you more. If the healing aspect of the class is more important to you, Warden just might be a better fit (note: that is not the same as saying wardens heal better.. but I do think the class suits someone focused on healing moreso than fury). If you want to emphasize the mage/nuker aspect of the class, either can work, but you are making a case for Fury. If you like the idea of a priest that can heal a group and also top the dps chart at the same time (ie: tank just pulled a large pack of vv mobs and you let lose your master 2 aoe), Fury can't be beat. If you want to be able to give anyone you meet a 45% runspeed buff, Wardens are your class. Etc, etc. I have played both, but my experience with warden was so long ago that it is no longer relevant. /edit: forgot to mention.. druids are VERY popular right now.. so if you are one of those players that enjoys being somewhat unique, don't roll a druid heh. __________________ My latest character is not in the database yet. Returning Player & Forum Critic

03-03-2007, 01:12 PM	#7
Amitee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 476	To simplify what the Fury vs. Warden is all about (it's so much more, but this usually helps people make a choice quicker): If you like to nuke, choose Fury, if you like to melee, choose Warden. (both can do either, but I feel each class is underutilized if you don't take advantage of their new "direction&quot. If you want group invisy, choose Fury, if you want group Evac, choose Warden. __________________ I'm going to fill this space soon! (tm) Wait... I just did. lol

03-03-2007, 11:56 AM	#3
Ji General Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 280	Maybe someone can post the cons of a warden but I've never rolled one. But I have an (almost) 40 Fury so here is my imput. I play a 70 conj as my main. So dps and my love of pets is important to me. Fury is medium dps but has the ability to charm, mez, melee, nuke, buff group/raid and most important heal. We are back up healers, coercers and mage all rolled in one. We increase int and wis of group very well. We increase mitigation versus all damage. We can charm but only animals and thats an AA ability. We get speed (level 40 and I have 40% and climbing with AAs). We take on forms of animals to increase our combat, speed and healing abilities. We nuke fairly well but our casting times are slow. Also we have ability to port anyone to far distant lands. All together the Fury is a well rounded, challenging and fun class. I recommend it but again I've never rolled a Warden.

03-03-2007, 12:20 PM	#5
Ji General Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 280	Damage Per Second or otherwise known as damage output. Casters are high dps and tanks are lower etc.

03-03-2007, 01:14 PM	#8
Confuzzeled Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 47	Thanks for all the quick replies. By the sounds of things, The fury sounds right for me. As I like the mage feel of spells, and I like buffs, and lots of damage. And I really chose this class because I want to have portals once I am high enough in level. Thanks so much for the help everyone. So, by the things that I want. Damage, Soloing, Buffs, And cool spells. lol, does this sound like the right thing for me Thanks. __________________

03-03-2007, 01:48 PM	#9
Looker1010 ZAM Copy Editor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Diego, CA/GMT -8 Posts: 735	Druids are healers first and anything else, including DPS dealers, second. I love my warden and, if given the chance to reset her, would still pick warden. If you're that concerned with dealing damage perhaps a class like paladin which is basically a tank with healing and eventually rez. Sounds to me closer to what you're looking for. Whatever you choose, welcome back to what, despite its many problems, is the best MMORPG there is. __________________ Ariel 88 Conjurer / 90 Provisioner ... Dalila 67 Illusionist / 90 Jeweler / 450 Tinkerer / 325 Transmuting / 450 Adorning ... Glinda 68 Wizard / 90 Sage Merle 51 Conjurer / 50 Woodworker ... Miriamne 78 Warden / 87 Tailor Morningstar 85 Paladin / 90 Alchemist ... Ogadia 73 Monk / 80 Carpenter Test Server Wamira 80 Warden / 80 Provisioner ... Breppa 64 Ranger / 71 Carpenter Miriamne 66 Guardian / 73 Tailor ... Ariela 64 Conjurer / 72 Jeweler Pasharia 52 Paladin / 71 Wood Worker ... Berengeria 50 Wizard / 74 Armorer Taliana 65 Monk / 80 Alchemist ... Lavinia 54 Warlock / 70 Weaponsmith Sadye 44 Coercer / 74 Sage ... Sarita 59 Bruiser Kithicor - Retired

03-04-2007, 03:49 AM	#10
HBP Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 296	Jixx wrote: Maybe someone can post the cons of a warden but I've never rolled one. But I have an (almost) 40 Fury so here is my imput. I play a 70 conj as my main. So dps and my love of pets is important to me. Fury is medium dps but has the ability to charm, mez, melee, nuke, buff group/raid and most important heal. We are back up healers, coercers and mage all rolled in one. We increase int and wis of group very well. We increase mitigation versus all damage. We can charm but only animals and thats an AA ability. We get speed (level 40 and I have 40% and climbing with AAs). We take on forms of animals to increase our combat, speed and healing abilities. We nuke fairly well but our casting times are slow. Also we have ability to port anyone to far distant lands. All together the Fury is a well rounded, challenging and fun class. I recommend it but again I've never rolled a Warden. Well, I wouldn't really go that far into describing a Fury Druids can "mez" and "charm," but only animals and charming an animal takes up 3 concentration slots, which means you have to sacrifice group buffs and self buffs which decrease your dps A more accurate description: The Nuking Healer.