Haraghaur the Deathless - Bit tough isn't he?

Ovrload · 01-28-2007, 05:31 AM

Heya, first post here, so go easy on me please SMILEY

Just lead and tanked a raid on Runnyeye trying to kill Haraghaur the Deathless.

To cut a long story short, we got totalled 5 times in a row and everytime he cast an AoE half of group 2 died. He was spamming elemental AoEs every few seconds and to be honest, it seemed like we were trying to fight a pre-nerf mob.

Is he really supposed to be this tough? I had 63.5% heat resist and was getting aoe'd from 900 to 2.4 k damage a shot. We got him down to 60% ish a few times but we just kept on wiping because all our dps were dead and our 3 healers were either dead by then or couldn't keep them up

If he is supposed to be this tough, then what kind of setup should I looking to gather to kill him please?

Yours,

Doomguard TX'Squeakinator

Killerbee3000 · 01-28-2007, 05:39 AM

first off, max range is your best friend...... second... resist gear ftw.....

Ovrload · 01-28-2007, 05:56 AM

Um,

Have sort of main tanked labs in the past, do know what max range and group setups is for. Group 2 still died...lots

Maybe more resists would have been nice

Yours,

Doomguard TX'Squeakinator

WikiView · 01-28-2007, 06:03 AM

like he said, max range and turn the mob... very easy.. we normally 1 group him

kenm · 01-28-2007, 06:29 AM

Half of group two dying from a 900 to 2.4k damage AOE...Well, taking people higher than level 10 could help.

Krilinye · 01-28-2007, 06:35 AM

Ah so this is the smartasses primetime?

Judist · 01-28-2007, 11:26 AM

Taking a raid with low resists against Haraghaur is like taking a raid into MoA4 with low resists.

Ask Kenman about that one. SMILEY

Anyways hes right, its rather easy if everyone is prepared. If your lacking in fabled gear for a good base of resists, a full set of topaz jewelry is a small price to pay and will do just fine.

Killerbee3000 · 01-28-2007, 03:40 PM

and dont forget to tell people to recast their most important buffs if they get removed....

Supernova17 · 01-28-2007, 04:49 PM

Cures ftw also, 90% of healers seem to think they are trivial, below their notice or simply don't pay attention to them. I know, it's what made my Templar uber from T5 on and what makes me boot non-curing healer applicants to our guild =)

Killerbee3000 · 01-28-2007, 11:53 PM

Supernova17 wrote:Cures ftw also, 90% of healers seem to think they are trivial, below their notice or simply don't pay attention to them. I know, it's what made my Templar uber from T5 on and what makes me boot non-curing healer applicants to our guild =)

non curing healers? such a thing exists? now you got me scared..................

valkyrja · 01-29-2007, 01:00 AM

Sounds to me that the issue was you had a bunch of people who don't know how to raid. He is very easy to beat, even for those who don't raid often.I think he's a good stepping stone fight for the Claymore line, because if you can't get past him, you don't stand a chance getting DT acces, or even completing DT.

Owilliams · 01-29-2007, 01:52 AM

Be sure to pull all the little gazers around him and kill them prior to engaging the named. Makes the encounter much easier.

Happy Gaming,

--Orv

de lori · 01-29-2007, 02:25 AM

Bring back the 6day spawn and 50hr camp.....oh the memories.

Pins · 01-29-2007, 02:32 AM

de lorian wrote:
Bring back the 6day spawn and 50hr camp.....oh the memories.

It was never 6-day spawn, it was always a weak 36 hour spawn.

Illustrious · 01-29-2007, 04:35 AM

hes easily 1 groupable.

Keep healers and ranged dps at max range and hes no problem

de lori · 01-29-2007, 06:51 AM

Pinksi wrote :

__________________________________________________ ______________

It was never 6-day spawn, it was always a weak 36 hour spawn

__________________________________________________ ______________

we started camping him 30 hours after he was killed last.....53 hours later he popped....so ya mebe not 6days....but not 36 hrs either.

Think it was a day or 2 later they changed the timer on him.

Tbh ....im glad they got rid of that stupid spawn time.....but I think he should be harder than he is to kill

Mermidon · 01-29-2007, 08:32 PM

Ovrload wrote:

Um,

Have sort of main tanked labs in the past, do know what max range and group setups is for.

Oh man you MT'd labs before? You must know everything about raiding. Can you please share your wealth of knowledge with everyone else?

Or maybe you should listen to the people who know enough about raiding to the point where even mentioning labs makes you look like a running joke

Ciarr · 01-31-2007, 11:02 AM

the named for claymore in BM?

we did it with pickup raid without any issues, actually I was suprised I hardly notice we are doing epic...

with this setup (not perfect but ok for it)

g1: dirge,assasin,inq,warden,conj,sk

g2: 2 druids, necro and 2 more dps (I couldn't find 12th person to fill last slot)

we cleared gazers just in case since I wasn't sure if they add or not, and we could chat during fight it was that easy

Groma · 01-31-2007, 11:10 AM

His big AE is frontal, have your tank turn him away from the raid. Have a fury/warden in each grp, to grp cure the elemental. Should go pretty smooth from there, even if everyone has poor resists. From the sound of it, you might have got a bugged version. I know he AEs pretty hard, but you sound like he was AEing every few seconds, which is wrong.As to the non-curing healers. I have actually been asked (in T7) what the little colored crosses under my name were by a healer. So yes, non-curing healers do exist.

Krilinye · 01-31-2007, 01:16 PM

< Oh man you MT'd labs before? You must know everything about raiding. Can you please share your wealth of knowledge with everyone else?

< Or maybe you should listen to the people who know enough about raiding to the point where even mentioning labs makes you look like a running joke

Wow... This really is the age of the numb[I cannot control my vocabulary]ers - thx for your contructive post with very nice criticism in it.

Ovrload · 01-31-2007, 04:38 PM

Heya again,

Just a finishing off post to say we got him. Sort of ignored this post for a few days because it was obvious the trolls were coming out to flame and generally be useless. I can't be bothered with them, but feel free to act the way you trolls do in the rest of the post, because I don't care.

Thanks to everyone who actually did try to post sensible replies SMILEY

This time we totally crushed him, didn't take a single death and didn't seem to be hit by a single AoE in either group. It was like fighting a totally different encounter named: - in fact if it hadn't been for the mob name and the fact we got our updates I would have said it was a different mob

Yours,

Doomguard TX'Squeakinator

Equal rights for Ratonga!

Ovrload · 01-31-2007, 04:42 PM

P.S.

Easiest way we found to kill him was to kil the cactoxic stain in the poool at the bottom of the path, then pull him down the path, main tank in the rocks with all the dps standing off and nuking, while the casters healed and the tanks tanked

That way we got zero respawns in either the fight we won easily or the fight where he was chaining AoEs where we got slaughtered

Yours,

Doomguard TX'Squeakinator

Equal Rights for Ratonga!

Hohum · 01-31-2007, 07:02 PM

We really struggled until we dragged a Brigand with us and it was ridiculously easy after that.

Ho

Message Edited by hohum3 on 01-31-2007 02:02 PM

01-28-2007, 05:31 AM	#1
Ovrload Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25	Heya, first post here, so go easy on me please Just lead and tanked a raid on Runnyeye trying to kill Haraghaur the Deathless. To cut a long story short, we got totalled 5 times in a row and everytime he cast an AoE half of group 2 died. He was spamming elemental AoEs every few seconds and to be honest, it seemed like we were trying to fight a pre-nerf mob. Is he really supposed to be this tough? I had 63.5% heat resist and was getting aoe'd from 900 to 2.4 k damage a shot. We got him down to 60% ish a few times but we just kept on wiping because all our dps were dead and our 3 healers were either dead by then or couldn't keep them up If he is supposed to be this tough, then what kind of setup should I looking to gather to kill him please? Yours, Doomguard TX'Squeakinator

01-28-2007, 05:39 AM	#2
Killerbee3000 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: right behind you Posts: 1,802	first off, max range is your best friend...... second... resist gear ftw..... __________________ Whiskers without loosing Eyes in '08!

01-28-2007, 06:03 AM	#4
WikiView Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 51	like he said, max range and turn the mob... very easy.. we normally 1 group him __________________

01-28-2007, 06:29 AM	#5
kenm General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 419	Half of group two dying from a 900 to 2.4k damage AOE...Well, taking people higher than level 10 could help. __________________ ---

01-28-2007, 06:35 AM	#6
Krilinye Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 274	Ah so this is the smartasses primetime? __________________ To alcohol! The cause of - and solution to - all of life's problems!

01-28-2007, 05:56 AM	#3
Ovrload Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25	Um, Have sort of main tanked labs in the past, do know what max range and group setups is for. Group 2 still died...lots Maybe more resists would have been nice Yours, Doomguard TX'Squeakinator

01-28-2007, 11:26 AM	#7
Judist Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 432	Taking a raid with low resists against Haraghaur is like taking a raid into MoA4 with low resists. Ask Kenman about that one. Anyways hes right, its rather easy if everyone is prepared. If your lacking in fabled gear for a good base of resists, a full set of topaz jewelry is a small price to pay and will do just fine.

01-28-2007, 03:40 PM	#8
Killerbee3000 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: right behind you Posts: 1,802	and dont forget to tell people to recast their most important buffs if they get removed.... __________________ Whiskers without loosing Eyes in '08!

01-28-2007, 04:49 PM	#9
Supernova17 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,317	Cures ftw also, 90% of healers seem to think they are trivial, below their notice or simply don't pay attention to them. I know, it's what made my Templar uber from T5 on and what makes me boot non-curing healer applicants to our guild =)

01-28-2007, 11:53 PM	#10
Killerbee3000 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: right behind you Posts: 1,802	Supernova17 wrote:Cures ftw also, 90% of healers seem to think they are trivial, below their notice or simply don't pay attention to them. I know, it's what made my Templar uber from T5 on and what makes me boot non-curing healer applicants to our guild =) non curing healers? such a thing exists? now you got me scared.................. __________________ Whiskers without loosing Eyes in '08!

01-29-2007, 01:00 AM	#11
valkyrja Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 559	Sounds to me that the issue was you had a bunch of people who don't know how to raid. He is very easy to beat, even for those who don't raid often.I think he's a good stepping stone fight for the Claymore line, because if you can't get past him, you don't stand a chance getting DT acces, or even completing DT. __________________

01-29-2007, 01:52 AM	#12
Owilliams Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 140	Be sure to pull all the little gazers around him and kill them prior to engaging the named. Makes the encounter much easier. Happy Gaming, --Orv __________________ "People who for whatever reason don't want to see the truth can be acutely hostile to it and shrill in their denunciation of it. They frequently turn their venomous antagonism on whoever dares point out that truth." -- Zeddicus Zorander Phantom -- Terry Goodkind

01-29-2007, 02:25 AM	#13
de lori General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 208	Bring back the 6day spawn and 50hr camp.....oh the memories. __________________ Charayne 90/250 Conjuror / Tranquil Rage / Kithicor

01-29-2007, 02:32 AM	#14
Pins General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,040	de lorian wrote: Bring back the 6day spawn and 50hr camp.....oh the memories. It was never 6-day spawn, it was always a weak 36 hour spawn. __________________ Calaglin, Former Illusionist/Guild Leader of Dissolution on Nektulos Calaglin, Former Illusionist/Guild Leader of Confirmed on Unrest

01-29-2007, 04:35 AM	#15
Illustrious Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 226	hes easily 1 groupable. Keep healers and ranged dps at max range and hes no problem

01-29-2007, 06:51 AM	#16
de lori General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 208	Pinksi wrote : __________________________________________________ ______________ It was never 6-day spawn, it was always a weak 36 hour spawn __________________________________________________ ______________ we started camping him 30 hours after he was killed last.....53 hours later he popped....so ya mebe not 6days....but not 36 hrs either. Think it was a day or 2 later they changed the timer on him. Tbh ....im glad they got rid of that stupid spawn time.....but I think he should be harder than he is to kill __________________ Charayne 90/250 Conjuror / Tranquil Rage / Kithicor

01-29-2007, 08:32 PM	#17
Mermidon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 34	Ovrload wrote: Um, Have sort of main tanked labs in the past, do know what max range and group setups is for. Oh man you MT'd labs before? You must know everything about raiding. Can you please share your wealth of knowledge with everyone else? Or maybe you should listen to the people who know enough about raiding to the point where even mentioning labs makes you look like a running joke

01-31-2007, 11:02 AM	#18
Ciarr General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 107	the named for claymore in BM? we did it with pickup raid without any issues, actually I was suprised I hardly notice we are doing epic... with this setup (not perfect but ok for it) g1: dirge,assasin,inq,warden,conj,sk g2: 2 druids, necro and 2 more dps (I couldn't find 12th person to fill last slot) we cleared gazers just in case since I wasn't sure if they add or not, and we could chat during fight it was that easy

01-31-2007, 11:10 AM	#19
Groma General Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: www.eq2flames.com Posts: 679	His big AE is frontal, have your tank turn him away from the raid. Have a fury/warden in each grp, to grp cure the elemental. Should go pretty smooth from there, even if everyone has poor resists. From the sound of it, you might have got a bugged version. I know he AEs pretty hard, but you sound like he was AEing every few seconds, which is wrong.As to the non-curing healers. I have actually been asked (in T7) what the little colored crosses under my name were by a healer. So yes, non-curing healers do exist.

01-31-2007, 01:16 PM	#20
Krilinye Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 274	< Oh man you MT'd labs before? You must know everything about raiding. Can you please share your wealth of knowledge with everyone else? < Or maybe you should listen to the people who know enough about raiding to the point where even mentioning labs makes you look like a running joke Wow... This really is the age of the numb[I cannot control my vocabulary]ers - thx for your contructive post with very nice criticism in it. __________________ To alcohol! The cause of - and solution to - all of life's problems!

01-31-2007, 04:38 PM	#21
Ovrload Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25	Heya again, Just a finishing off post to say we got him. Sort of ignored this post for a few days because it was obvious the trolls were coming out to flame and generally be useless. I can't be bothered with them, but feel free to act the way you trolls do in the rest of the post, because I don't care. Thanks to everyone who actually did try to post sensible replies This time we totally crushed him, didn't take a single death and didn't seem to be hit by a single AoE in either group. It was like fighting a totally different encounter named: - in fact if it hadn't been for the mob name and the fact we got our updates I would have said it was a different mob Yours, Doomguard TX'Squeakinator Equal rights for Ratonga!

01-31-2007, 04:42 PM	#22
Ovrload Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25	P.S. Easiest way we found to kill him was to kil the cactoxic stain in the poool at the bottom of the path, then pull him down the path, main tank in the rocks with all the dps standing off and nuking, while the casters healed and the tanks tanked That way we got zero respawns in either the fight we won easily or the fight where he was chaining AoEs where we got slaughtered Yours, Doomguard TX'Squeakinator Equal Rights for Ratonga!

01-31-2007, 07:02 PM	#23
Hohum Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 57	We really struggled until we dragged a Brigand with us and it was ridiculously easy after that. Ho Message Edited by hohum3 on 01-31-2007 02:02 PM