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Unread 03-27-2005, 04:38 AM   #1
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just wanting to know ,,,if and when you will allow the /movelog  feature ,,,,,to be able to have our characters moved from test to live,,,,,i made a huge mistake coming to test ,,,and would like to have my characters back to live,,,,please ,,,,,
 
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Unread 03-27-2005, 05:24 AM   #2
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honestly, I wish you luck. But they were pretty clear this was a one way trip. Very clear.
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Unread 03-27-2005, 09:33 AM   #3
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I'm guessing that the test server experience was not what you were expecting it to be. Like the poster above me pointed out, they were very clear that this was a one-way, one-time only move and that playing on test is a very different experience from playing on live. I do wish you luck in getting your request approved, but I highly doubt your chances. If there should ever be another offering to movelog characters to test, let this be a warning to anyone out there that you should try playing a toon on test first, as an alt, before permanently moving your live main.
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Unread 03-27-2005, 11:04 AM   #4
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I thought it copied your main... never knew it took him from the live server... that is really stupid if you ask me bleh
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Unread 03-27-2005, 04:23 PM   #5
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from moorguard on the transfers post

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This same offer will be extended to other servers in the near future. Be aware that this is a one-way process, and we do not plan to offer the chance for characters to move back from the Test server. Be sure to read the Test Server FAQ  before committing to this move.
 
Please note that this is a character move option, not a character copy option. Your character will no longer exist on its original server. Our goal is to enhance the Test community by adding players who consistently want to be at the forefront of improving the game, and the best way to achieve that is to offer the chance to make Test server your character's permanent home.

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i think they made it very clear


 

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Unread 03-27-2005, 11:59 PM   #6
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I highly doubt he will be moved back for several reasons. Not the least of which was the wealth return of 100x on heritage items for about 5 days, and the dupe bug a few days ago.  Test can absorb these anomolies with its small population, but that its EXACTLY why they should never allow a move off of Test. ~Eva
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Unread 03-28-2005, 01:12 AM   #7
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Evadne wrote:
I highly doubt he will be moved back for several reasons. Not the least of which was the wealth return of 100x on heritage items for about 5 days, and the dupe bug a few days ago.  Test can absorb these anomolies with its small population, but that its EXACTLY why they should never allow a move off of Test.

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Unread 03-28-2005, 03:19 AM   #8
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When I read the posts about moving to Test server, I knew that this was going to be a situation that would be more of a sacrifice to for your player and it pretty much was going to leave you in trouble when you see how the server functions. Hence I never considered the move. Now it seems that you are SOL and SOE will force to you learn to cope with your new server due to them needing you there to assess their product. The only thing I can think of is for you to contact the company directly and do not deal with in game GM's or Devs, or if they advise you to work with the in game staff, you really need to talk to a superior in charge and make sure you find out who an actual supervisor is through calling or e-mailing SOE. If I were in the same boat, I would want an option of getting off the Test server somehow if I found the gaming experience truely unhappy to work with. Otherwise, I would possibly consider discontinuing their product.
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GeraltEQ2 wrote:When I read the posts about moving to Test server, I knew that this was going to be a situation that would be more of a sacrifice to for your player and it pretty much was going to leave you in trouble when you see how the server functions. Hence I never considered the move. Now it seems that you are SOL and SOE will force to you learn to cope with your new server due to them needing you there to assess their product. The only thing I can think of is for you to contact the company directly and do not deal with in game GM's or Devs, or if they advise you to work with the in game staff, you really need to talk to a superior in charge and make sure you find out who an actual supervisor is through calling or e-mailing SOE. If I were in the same boat, I would want an option of getting off the Test server somehow if I found the gaming experience truely unhappy to work with. Otherwise, I would possibly consider discontinuing their product.

I don't see how SoE 'forced' him to learn to cope, they clearly stated that a move to test was a one way event.  Given the nature of Test that makes sense.  SoE clearly pointed out that the /movelog is a choice, not something forced on you.  While I can understand the original posters complaint, I don't see where he has a case to be moved.  Seems more like a case of buyers remorse.  I suggest that if you really want to be returned to your original server, or just moved to any server, tell them you'll move nekked.  No money, no items.  You might have  a chance if you go that route. Shazz Have a nice day.
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Unread 03-28-2005, 09:51 AM   #10
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Well I can sympathize with the OP.  When SOE first came up with the movelog idea, they made it sound like roses and red wine for all who moved.  In reality the movelog was a huge flop, I mean monumentous flop.  Almost no one took the bait and the server has a terminally disfunctional low ( and I cant emphasis low any lower) population.
 
Some people have become greatly disenchanted with the server and SOE's apparent lack of willingness to boost population issues again.
 
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Unread 03-28-2005, 11:03 AM   #11
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Well considering he posted he was going to delete his Test chars back in Feb when they put in item attunement, I am surprised he came to Test in the first place. Definately should have looked a bit harder before moving any chars here, they were pretty clear that Test isn't for everyone and judging from the OP's two posts on these boards, he is definately not the type to flourish in a test environment... more likely someone that was hoping for that "personal playpen server" feel that everyone thinks we have here and got a very rude awakening upon arrival.

Personally, I can't believe that anyone who hasn't played on a test server (almost) exclusively in the past, would even consider moving a char here being such a huge risk and all.

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Unread 03-28-2005, 12:34 PM   #12
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I completely disagree with you Gherig. In fact, the only person I have heard of that wishes we had more people quickly (on test) is you.  Most of us are happy with the status quo. I believe other offers to transfer players over in time would be good. But same deal as before. I don't think the moves were a flop at all. As for the OP, as Kwoung points out, investigating his history of posts defines him. ~Eva
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Unread 03-28-2005, 06:58 PM   #13
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Evadne wrote:
I completely disagree with you Gherig. In fact, the only person I have heard of that wishes we had more people quickly (on test) is you.  Most of us are happy with the status quo.
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That is not entirely true, lots of people have complained about the low population, you just havent seen it I guess.  As for status quo, its not good enough.  Sony needs things tested, the small handful here does not have the numbers to do that job properly.  Status quo has produced alot of bugs slipping the cracks into live updates.  Just scan these very boards and see the complaint after complaint about updates not being tested properly.  That all refelcts back upon us as being incompetent.  Sure low population breeds a tight knit community and lots of uncamped adventures, but thats not why Test Server is here, its for SOE to refine and polish its product.
 
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Unread 03-28-2005, 07:33 PM   #14
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Well, it would be nice if they gave incentives for people to play on Test. Or offerred another round of moves, those would be helpful yes.  But, I also know how much we catch, report that for some reason does end up going live. More reports would help that. ~Eva
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Unread 03-28-2005, 08:10 PM   #15
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That is not entirely true, lots of people have complained about the low population, you just havent seen it I guess.
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Unread 03-28-2005, 09:09 PM   #16
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Oh I agree Eva, we do catch alot of things.  And I think the ppl committed to Test right now are doing the best job we can with our limited resources.  We could just do much more with a little help from SOE.
 
You and I both talked about what SOE can do to attract and retain players here.  An expanded 2-4x EXP ZEM, limited copies, maybe even like DAOC, every 5 levels you get a free level (similar to DAOC not the same).  There are soooooooooo many options DEV can use to attract people, I just dont know why they havent used them yet.
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Unread 03-28-2005, 09:54 PM   #17
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For what its worth, I'd like to add my support to the call to resume the /movelog transfers. There are players out there waiting to transfer in to TEST, and we do need the player population growth to help do a better job testing.
Not everyone on the TEST server is a dedicated tester, but many are that I've met, and unlike the OP above, I'm really glad I made the jump from Innothule.
So for anyone else considering making the BIG move...if you liked being in BETA... don't mind a little chaos...and if powerleveling and being the first to own 100pp isnt your driving goal in life...you might like it here. You get to talk to the devs once in a while, try out new dungeons...fill out a lot of bug reports...send in lots of feedback and typo forms...and know you maybe made the game better.
 
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Unread 03-28-2005, 09:57 PM   #18
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Gherig, I think SOE can offer whatever they want to for an incentive and it will only make things worse.  The only people that will attract are those more interested in advancing their characters than where they play.  IMHO, the problem lies in the misconception most people have about test.  They still think we get character wiped all the time, get roll backs, suffer from extreme down time and just live in the world of the devs playground.  I am willing to bet we have half the downtime that the live server do. For an example look at this message board.  People are flooding here(more people) because they think the devs will take note of what they post(the incentive).  As a result this board is rather useless compared to what the design aimed for.  I don't put to much stock in the people complaining about the patches here, because honestly they are always going to complain and no patch will ever be perfect. Back to task though, I think dispelling some of the myths behind the server combined with a targeted movelog option and a show of support from us here would add a good amount of people.  I know there are people looking for a new home because their server is either crowded, etc.  Think of it as a combined add campaign if you will. 
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Unread 03-28-2005, 09:58 PM   #19
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Hiya May I also add that I belive that the population on Test to be to low, To Work has a Test server the server has to have a sizeabile population ,maybe not has large has a mainstream server but one that can test everything that EQ2 has to offer. As some of you know we at the Fires Of Time Guild have set on a mission to be a raiding guild so that we can test endgame content and of course see things that is not yet live on mainstream servers,  to do this we need at least 25 like minded individuals, we currently have 14 But are struggling to find people who match our criteria, another set of server transfers would help, also as some of you may know our server is visited by other guilds from other mainstream servers to test our content, these guys are copied over i dont want copies to do our work, i feel we can do this ourself if we are given the tools to the job. If SoE ever decided to introduce copies over here full time i would ask to leave has this is not what we was sold when we were invited to take part on the test server. after all that negativity i must admit  i love the server and the people on it, i just wish that SoE would allow full time one way transfers.

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Unread 03-31-2005, 12:37 AM   #20
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Badkore wrote:

...(if) these guys are copied over i dont want copies to do our work, i feel we can do this ourself if we are given the tools to the job.
If SoE ever decided to introduce copies over here full time i would ask to leave has this is not what we was sold when we were invited to take part on the test server. ...

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With all due respect, if the development team decides that copying characters would be a good idea, why would you leave.  Not what you signed on for...?  I am assuming you signed on to improve the game first, your cozy server environment is a bonus.
 
As far as giving you more tools to do your job more effectively, obviously that would be welcomed I'm sure.
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Unread 03-31-2005, 11:54 AM   #21
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oz you do know items have to be attuned on live too right? lol... and you have to fight more people to try to get them...
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