Ranger legendary armor

Arleonenis · 12-26-2006, 09:46 PM

Like the title say in EoF every profession get nice shiny legendary armor, in many cases its on par with relic or even slightly better than it, not counting lower repair cost as its not fabled and so on....Troubles start when we try to acquire one...Boot and forearm pieces that drop from instances arent bad to get one or two dozen of visits there and you should get nice shiny nighthunter armor partsBut than come sleeves... they drop in catacombs and hmmm lets put some numbers (me as example):- when i entered catas i had 0 vampires killed (didnt bothered with adventure pack SMILEY

- atm i stay at 2565 vampires killed - accomplished slayer- nameds that drop sleeves i killed so many times i stoped counting around 100- atm i still dont got this sleevesWell i never even saw them drop, druid pieces drop often, wizard too saw over dozen of those... rest is regular uncommon... ranger... well they exist as from time to time someone get them or so i hear...Most of those that exist droped in first days of EoF when more nameds could drop them (Maid droped those for a fact becouse someone i know got them from this mob at start) atm only 2 mobs and Epic in catas drop them (in theory)It isnt bad luck anymore, it isnt even bad luck on Epic scale... its broken game mechanic...On my server AB they dont even showed on broker in last weeks, not even insanely overpriced (they tradable)The issue is are this some kind of bug?And if not who sane want to camp same place day after day for weeks... months... for hours each day to get 1 item? item that could get nerfed in next "expansion/adventure pack" as KoS stuff was severaly nerfed when EoF camed out? Becouse that nerf took away a lot of accomplishment in obtaining KoS gear... and made KoS a subpar zone with bad drops (with very few exceptions)Whats the point of this? Is it still a game? Is it still fun? Sense of accomplishement? What accomplishment? Killing some extremaly difficult mob, solving hard puzzle, doing extremally long quest line thats accomplishment... but camping over and over same place? its boring... its second job... and after so many camps i can as ranger (without raid gear) camp this zone just with a healer before surveil nerf...Who designed this thing that its boring repetitive and pointless grind? where is the quest in everquest? or is this game name should be changed into evercamp?This legendary profession armors should have quests something in line of hoolooh hat quest, long hard signature quest for every piece of armor, is it hard? yes. is it accomplishment? yes is it boring and repetitive? no...It looks like devs went on easiest possible path, just add those to loot tables (that are broken as far as it look like) and be done with it... and where are quests? hmmm? was that so hard to implement them?So to those trolls/fanboys that will ofcorse jump up and start to say its fine as it is... becouse from what i saw on forums they always show up sooner or later... well maybe you want second job for which you must pay for. I want fun, fun is questing, fun is grouping, fun is raiding from time to time, but fun isnt a endless camp in same place over and over and over again till hell freezes... if i want second job i will get one that pays for me not the one for which i must pay...I dont want those given to me on silver plate i want to work on it but in way that would be fun for me, in the way that this game should stand for through quests, hard involving interesting quests this way that wouldnt require endless camp in one place for eternity, you will spend lots of time solving puzzles, searching for clues, killing mobs/bosses for parts/next cluess (and if you still think i want easy solution i have Cloak of Flames on me and this isnt fast easy thing to get and unfortunetly require camping/farming but it isnt that excessive as 2565 kills in one small part of zone just for the odd chance it will drop, no other rangers/assasins be in group and no smart [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] roll for it becouse of its value even when its nbg group (vampires are maybe 25-30% of catacombs population, and like 50-60% of upper level where are lots of crawlers))((If in this post you see im depresed/frustrated/bored than thats true i am...))

Message Edited by Arleonenis on 12-26-2006 08:50 AM

Message Edited by Arleonenis on 12-26-2006 08:52 AM

Starwindz · 12-27-2006, 12:35 AM

As far as the loot tables bring broken on the arms drop i cant really agree. Ive grinded in Cata quite abit and personally have gotten almost every arm once with the expection of a couple ive gotten twice. This includes the Kithicor arms. The tradeable legendary set pieces aren't supposed to be complety easy to get but i think if you spend a decent amount of time in the zone someone is bound to get them and you can always trade for them as well.

Arleonenis · 12-27-2006, 01:53 AM

Decent amount of time? easy to get? well please read again entire post not first few lines and than you will know that i was rooted there longer than any sane person will survive... much longer than you if you saw like what? 20 sleeves? than around 4 times that long

Message Edited by Arleonenis on 12-26-2006 12:55 PM

Gerdos · 12-27-2006, 03:27 AM

Went in with a pickup group last week, picked up predator shoulders from Butler 1st attempt. Pure luck. Can also confirm, there is a named that spawns in the room with the stairwell leading to the back portion of MMCastle. This named also drops armor set shoulders (saw enchanter piece). So that's 3 named that have a chance to drop the shoulder set piece from the 1 zone. Just as well they are tradeable, i've also seen a few on broker.

At the end of the day, all loot drops are just random. 24 classes, 12 subclasses, plus a lot of other items vendor/legendary/fabled pieces are all part various loot tables. This also includes those [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] pages for the collection hq starter (28+ hrs just for page 7 and still counting ..... total b/s). As things currently stand, there's not much anyone can do, but to keep trying until we get lucky or someone else gets lucky and they put it up on broker/channel.

As to your idea of the legendary armor set pieces being rewards for a major quest line .. i like it. Although, i'm sure somewhere along the way, we'd still be camping for a rare named or some rare harvestable.

Arleonenis · 12-27-2006, 06:21 AM

yeah that named is seneschal in stair room, his estimated spawn is 1 hour too, as aide (his ph) show very often... well luck not luck but if i used that time i camped this catas for farming plat i would be few hundreds plats richer... also very rare epic have chance too... just this luck thing is rather depressing... i could turn monitor off now and navigate through catas.... compared to this camp all the pages was nice short and relaxing just like 70 hours total... i dont even want to know how much time i wasted here......one very depressed ranger...

Message Edited by Arleonenis on 12-26-2006 05:21 PM

Starwindz · 12-28-2006, 10:43 AM

im sorry but if youve killed the names that drop the sleeves 100 times and have only gotten the crapp set drops id say thats bad luck i thin that the druid ones do drop more often as well as in the instance zones but a couple guildies besides myself have gotten the kithcor arms and gloves from kaladim.

wvorster · 12-28-2006, 05:16 PM

hmmm,We did a few runs in crype / cata and obelisk - maybe 5 runs each before i got boots , wrist , shoulders .... seems pretty common on our server ...

Badaxe Ba · 12-28-2006, 09:25 PM

I got my first piece, the boots, in Obelisk of the blight, last night. I am interested of course in learning where the other pieces drop. And I agree with the OP, camping for armor is like going to the dentist to have a tooth pulled. I think the drop rate should be tweaked some. Not gonna hold my breath though.

EomerFarst · 12-29-2006, 05:54 AM

Never seen the boots in 3 weeks. It's getting boring and ridiculous :smileyindifferent:

Gailstryd · 12-29-2006, 01:05 PM

I got my boots on my first OOB run, I got my shoulders on my 4th kill of the Butler before i realized he dropped them, I got my bracers on my 5th or 6th time out to CoV. I had fun the whole time I was getting them but I could easily see where bad luck or stupid people "accidently" kiping your loot because they can't hit decline would make for a rough camp. Overall just role with it, there are so many decent shoulders in the game for us you shouldn't be too worried about those. The boots are the most common ive seen but thats only in my own experience and beings they are one of the more useful of the set overall imo them being common isn't a bad thing. The wrists again are hard to worry about if you ask me because while the stats are decent they aren't exactly our primary stats and you can easily have a set of comparable Awakened leather or chain forearms anyways. Gloves are in the same boat as the forearms and im more looking forward to chest and legs for look more than anything. The last piece im excited about is the hood (hoping it's black to match my guild cloak). I want the set for the bonus sure but I also hope a little that I don't get everything right away I want to still have somthing to do 2 months from now.

12-26-2006, 09:46 PM	#1
Arleonenis Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 98	Like the title say in EoF every profession get nice shiny legendary armor, in many cases its on par with relic or even slightly better than it, not counting lower repair cost as its not fabled and so on....Troubles start when we try to acquire one...Boot and forearm pieces that drop from instances arent bad to get one or two dozen of visits there and you should get nice shiny nighthunter armor partsBut than come sleeves... they drop in catacombs and hmmm lets put some numbers (me as example):- when i entered catas i had 0 vampires killed (didnt bothered with adventure pack- atm i stay at 2565 vampires killed - accomplished slayer- nameds that drop sleeves i killed so many times i stoped counting around 100- atm i still dont got this sleevesWell i never even saw them drop, druid pieces drop often, wizard too saw over dozen of those... rest is regular uncommon... ranger... well they exist as from time to time someone get them or so i hear...Most of those that exist droped in first days of EoF when more nameds could drop them (Maid droped those for a fact becouse someone i know got them from this mob at start) atm only 2 mobs and Epic in catas drop them (in theory)It isnt bad luck anymore, it isnt even bad luck on Epic scale... its broken game mechanic...On my server AB they dont even showed on broker in last weeks, not even insanely overpriced (they tradable)The issue is are this some kind of bug?And if not who sane want to camp same place day after day for weeks... months... for hours each day to get 1 item? item that could get nerfed in next "expansion/adventure pack" as KoS stuff was severaly nerfed when EoF camed out? Becouse that nerf took away a lot of accomplishment in obtaining KoS gear... and made KoS a subpar zone with bad drops (with very few exceptions)Whats the point of this? Is it still a game? Is it still fun? Sense of accomplishement? What accomplishment? Killing some extremaly difficult mob, solving hard puzzle, doing extremally long quest line thats accomplishment... but camping over and over same place? its boring... its second job... and after so many camps i can as ranger (without raid gear) camp this zone just with a healer before surveil nerf...Who designed this thing that its boring repetitive and pointless grind? where is the quest in everquest? or is this game name should be changed into evercamp?This legendary profession armors should have quests something in line of hoolooh hat quest, long hard signature quest for every piece of armor, is it hard? yes. is it accomplishment? yes is it boring and repetitive? no...It looks like devs went on easiest possible path, just add those to loot tables (that are broken as far as it look like) and be done with it... and where are quests? hmmm? was that so hard to implement them?So to those trolls/fanboys that will ofcorse jump up and start to say its fine as it is... becouse from what i saw on forums they always show up sooner or later... well maybe you want second job for which you must pay for. I want fun, fun is questing, fun is grouping, fun is raiding from time to time, but fun isnt a endless camp in same place over and over and over again till hell freezes... if i want second job i will get one that pays for me not the one for which i must pay...I dont want those given to me on silver plate i want to work on it but in way that would be fun for me, in the way that this game should stand for through quests, hard involving interesting quests this way that wouldnt require endless camp in one place for eternity, you will spend lots of time solving puzzles, searching for clues, killing mobs/bosses for parts/next cluess (and if you still think i want easy solution i have Cloak of Flames on me and this isnt fast easy thing to get and unfortunetly require camping/farming but it isnt that excessive as 2565 kills in one small part of zone just for the odd chance it will drop, no other rangers/assasins be in group and no smart [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] roll for it becouse of its value even when its nbg group (vampires are maybe 25-30% of catacombs population, and like 50-60% of upper level where are lots of crawlers))((If in this post you see im depresed/frustrated/bored than thats true i am...)) Message Edited by Arleonenis on 12-26-2006 08:50 AM Message Edited by Arleonenis on 12-26-2006 08:52 AM

12-28-2006, 05:16 PM	#7
wvorster Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 84	hmmm,We did a few runs in crype / cata and obelisk - maybe 5 runs each before i got boots , wrist , shoulders .... seems pretty common on our server ... __________________

12-28-2006, 09:25 PM	#8
Badaxe Ba General Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Venekor Posts: 568	I got my first piece, the boots, in Obelisk of the blight, last night. I am interested of course in learning where the other pieces drop. And I agree with the OP, camping for armor is like going to the dentist to have a tooth pulled. I think the drop rate should be tweaked some. Not gonna hold my breath though. __________________

12-27-2006, 12:35 AM	#2
Starwindz Lord Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 164	As far as the loot tables bring broken on the arms drop i cant really agree. Ive grinded in Cata quite abit and personally have gotten almost every arm once with the expection of a couple ive gotten twice. This includes the Kithicor arms. The tradeable legendary set pieces aren't supposed to be complety easy to get but i think if you spend a decent amount of time in the zone someone is bound to get them and you can always trade for them as well.

12-27-2006, 01:53 AM	#3
Arleonenis Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 98	Decent amount of time? easy to get? well please read again entire post not first few lines and than you will know that i was rooted there longer than any sane person will survive... much longer than you if you saw like what? 20 sleeves? than around 4 times that long Message Edited by Arleonenis on 12-26-2006 12:55 PM

12-27-2006, 03:27 AM	#4
Gerdos Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 236	Went in with a pickup group last week, picked up predator shoulders from Butler 1st attempt. Pure luck. Can also confirm, there is a named that spawns in the room with the stairwell leading to the back portion of MMCastle. This named also drops armor set shoulders (saw enchanter piece). So that's 3 named that have a chance to drop the shoulder set piece from the 1 zone. Just as well they are tradeable, i've also seen a few on broker. At the end of the day, all loot drops are just random. 24 classes, 12 subclasses, plus a lot of other items vendor/legendary/fabled pieces are all part various loot tables. This also includes those [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] pages for the collection hq starter (28+ hrs just for page 7 and still counting ..... total b/s). As things currently stand, there's not much anyone can do, but to keep trying until we get lucky or someone else gets lucky and they put it up on broker/channel. As to your idea of the legendary armor set pieces being rewards for a major quest line .. i like it. Although, i'm sure somewhere along the way, we'd still be camping for a rare named or some rare harvestable.

12-27-2006, 06:21 AM	#5
Arleonenis Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 98	yeah that named is seneschal in stair room, his estimated spawn is 1 hour too, as aide (his ph) show very often... well luck not luck but if i used that time i camped this catas for farming plat i would be few hundreds plats richer... also very rare epic have chance too... just this luck thing is rather depressing... i could turn monitor off now and navigate through catas.... compared to this camp all the pages was nice short and relaxing just like 70 hours total... i dont even want to know how much time i wasted here......one very depressed ranger... Message Edited by Arleonenis on 12-26-2006 05:21 PM

12-28-2006, 10:43 AM	#6
Starwindz Lord Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 164	im sorry but if youve killed the names that drop the sleeves 100 times and have only gotten the crapp set drops id say thats bad luck i thin that the druid ones do drop more often as well as in the instance zones but a couple guildies besides myself have gotten the kithcor arms and gloves from kaladim.

12-29-2006, 05:54 AM	#9
EomerFarst General Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 180	Never seen the boots in 3 weeks. It's getting boring and ridiculous :smileyindifferent:

12-29-2006, 01:05 PM	#10
Gailstryd General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 204	I got my boots on my first OOB run, I got my shoulders on my 4th kill of the Butler before i realized he dropped them, I got my bracers on my 5th or 6th time out to CoV. I had fun the whole time I was getting them but I could easily see where bad luck or stupid people "accidently" kiping your loot because they can't hit decline would make for a rough camp. Overall just role with it, there are so many decent shoulders in the game for us you shouldn't be too worried about those. The boots are the most common ive seen but thats only in my own experience and beings they are one of the more useful of the set overall imo them being common isn't a bad thing. The wrists again are hard to worry about if you ask me because while the stats are decent they aren't exactly our primary stats and you can easily have a set of comparable Awakened leather or chain forearms anyways. Gloves are in the same boat as the forearms and im more looking forward to chest and legs for look more than anything. The last piece im excited about is the hood (hoping it's black to match my guild cloak). I want the set for the bonus sure but I also hope a little that I don't get everything right away I want to still have somthing to do 2 months from now.