PvP thoughts - omg

Tom3 · 02-13-2006, 07:53 PM

OMG, maybe ive been living under a rock for the past few months, but i just heard about pvp from a friend. Ive got some inital questions like where i can go to transfer to the servers etc but i just wanted to say... omg... we will so own.

I play a 60Ranger on AB and in duels i find that NO ONE can beat me, i am unstopable. My RL friend says that Rangers are overpowered, but thats just because he's a wizard and is "apparently meant to do more dps and be tier1??" bull, i say things are fine and he's just annoyed that i can take Sha'Ir in Maj'dul in under 2 minutes and he cant.

We are, and should be the best dmg class ever, on raids i consistantly parse over 1.2 k dps and i am JUST THRILLED about the direction that SoE is taking my class. UP UP AND AWAY SoE, Great job, keep the good news coming.

Sirlutt · 02-13-2006, 07:55 PM

way to invite a nerf.

Tom3 · 02-13-2006, 08:03 PM

huh? no, its not an invite to a nerf? its the truth... we shouldnt be nerfed, we are good at some things, bad at others

Taubin · 02-13-2006, 08:04 PM

Is it just me? or is that a wizzie icon under his name? Just a thought :smileytongue:

Cael · 02-13-2006, 08:11 PM

And after looking a little at his other posts, his main is a 42 Warlock, he has a 36 Necro, and a 22 Coercer.

So he likes mages apparently lol

jarlaxle8 · 02-13-2006, 08:36 PM

no, it's not certain we will own in PvP. they have made the game code so that PvE and PvP rules can be strictly different. if we will own on PvP, be sure that they will balance that out.

in duells we may own, but it's mostly due to beeing able to get out big damage bursts right up front. that's all it takes in most duels, especially vs. mages and priests. got nothing to do with overpowered.

as for wizzies and tier 1 dps and stuff: it's getting old. some wizzies know their class and know they can kick butt and they get along with us pretty well. others have some issues and formulate their worries and thoughts in a constructive manner. then others think they should out-dps the whole world all the time on any mob, run dps-parsers without knowing what added effects are behind the dps numbers, and like to point at 'the over-powered ranger'. in the end they choose what type they want to be. and the devs choose to who they will listen.

---------------------------Ryilan Nightbreeze ---------------------------

BtilTheMage · 02-13-2006, 10:42 PM

"as for wizzies and tier 1 dps and stuff: it's getting old. some wizzies know their class and know they can kick butt and they get along with us pretty well. others have some issues and formulate their worries and thoughts in a constructive manner. then others think they should out-dps the whole world all the time on any mob, run dps-parsers without knowing what added effects are behind the dps numbers, and like to point at 'the over-powered ranger'. in the end they choose what type they want to be. and the devs choose to who they will listen."

I guarantee it's more annoying to have SOE ignore Sorcerer issues than it is to read a post you don't even have to click on in the first place. Everyone admits there are issues. The reason it's getting old is because the issues have been around for pretty much the entire game. So, the issues are old. It's not really surprising that they haven't been fixed by now though.

Message Edited by BtilTheMage on 02-13-200609:42 AM

Fennir · 02-13-2006, 10:50 PM

poor wittle mages SO CUTE

xandez · 02-14-2006, 01:32 AM

Bahaha... [Removed for Content] darn wizzies! :smileymad:

++Xan

coltla · 02-14-2006, 02:33 AM

I was dusting my quiver last night and 3 wizards died. I don't know how it happend. Then, as I was walking away my bow string snaped and killed a warlock. Rangers are Teh 1111!! R0ck! 1337 4 life!FEED THE TROLL!

jarlaxle8 · 02-14-2006, 12:25 PM

jarlaxle888 wrote:
as for wizzies and tier 1 dps and stuff: it's getting old. some wizzies know their class and know they can kick butt and they get along with us pretty well. others have some issues and formulate their worries and thoughts in a constructive manner. then others think they should out-dps the whole world all the time on any mob, run dps-parsers without knowing what added effects are behind the dps numbers, and like to point at 'the over-powered ranger'. in the end they choose what type they want to be. and the devs choose to who they will listen.
---------------------------Ryilan Nightbreeze ---------------------------

addition: replace 'wizzies' with 'sorcerers'.plus, there is another type of sorcerer, although very rarely seen, but if around hard to get away, like warts: those sorcerers that like to hang out in other classes forums and try to get a point over to that class - of course without knowing that class - and somehow hoping the devs will change all as soon as all members of that class agree that, compared to them, sorcerers suck big time...

rangers are uber-l33t pwnerers. i do PP runs to warm up. cazel is a farm mob to me. if they would raise the level cap to 80, i bet i could take out naggy with a bit of training...

TROLL FOOD ANYONE!? WHEN IT'S FEEDING TIME YOU MAY FEED OUR TROLL EXHIBIT! HE EVEN EATS FROM YOUR HAND! (just pull it back quick enough...)

---------------------------Ryilan Nightbreeze ---------------------------

Crychtonn · 02-14-2006, 01:07 PM

Rangers are good for PvP but nothing beats a Brigand.

Jay · 02-14-2006, 11:41 PM

coltlane wrote:I was dusting my quiver last night and 3 wizards died.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! OMG.. whew...that was really good

I never encourage the cross-class hate, but absurdity like this is funny stuff. Besides, I think Colt is spot on in ridiculing the whole situation, not insulting sorcerors. (I still don't understand why they think we can fix their problems.)

tass · 02-15-2006, 02:26 AM

either way no one know what soe is gonna do with all the classes in there clutches. I for 1 pity anyone who has an assumption of what his class will be becauuse u will most likly get downtroten when u play and find out what soe will do to all of the classes to make it a survivable envirnment. simple terms? there taking the omega bat out and waloping all the classes at once to fit just right:smileyvery-happy:

Carna · 02-15-2006, 04:09 AM

I hope anybody from SoE passing through this thread notes very firmly that the OP is a caster.

That's [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] low. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's against the terms of service. I'd suggest the Rangers here consider PMing the mods. That post is well above and beyond the normal efforts to get a class nerfed.

chrno01 · 02-15-2006, 04:53 AM

Hi, im from the PvP boards...well thats where I post most and I have alot of info on it. And yes you have been living under a rock. As for PvP there are NO TRANSFERS and I repeat NONE! Period there are no special pvp servers to transfer you character or anything you have to start brand new. As for rangers and pvp, well there rules are different you have regular pve attacks and those wont ever change in PvP however while in combat with another person your spells have a double effect and work different. This is the same for every class. CA might not do as much damage there simple scaled down a bit but are still powerful, different skills have different uses as well like the rangers evade. When used your opponent will instantly lose your target along with going invis does the same thing. You can click and get the target back as well. For invis theres a 20m radius for it meaning if your 20m away from your opponent they cant see you, if your within 20m they can see a shadowy outline of you and attack.Now as for rangers in general in PvP, there still good like on PvE but no where near unstoppable (actually from experience you guys arnt all that unstoppable now that you cant hit me from any distance with your bow CA). In PvP rangers are some what dominant but are getting thrashed up close by people. Read more up on the PvP forum.

Crychtonn · 02-15-2006, 04:55 AM

Carnagh welcome to the current life of a Ranger.

02-13-2006, 07:55 PM	#2
Sirlutt Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,149	way to invite a nerf. __________________ I heart DE Broads

02-13-2006, 08:04 PM	#4
Taubin Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 335	Is it just me? or is that a wizzie icon under his name? Just a thought :smileytongue: __________________

02-13-2006, 08:36 PM	#6
jarlaxle8 General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 512	no, it's not certain we will own in PvP. they have made the game code so that PvE and PvP rules can be strictly different. if we will own on PvP, be sure that they will balance that out. in duells we may own, but it's mostly due to beeing able to get out big damage bursts right up front. that's all it takes in most duels, especially vs. mages and priests. got nothing to do with overpowered. as for wizzies and tier 1 dps and stuff: it's getting old. some wizzies know their class and know they can kick butt and they get along with us pretty well. others have some issues and formulate their worries and thoughts in a constructive manner. then others think they should out-dps the whole world all the time on any mob, run dps-parsers without knowing what added effects are behind the dps numbers, and like to point at 'the over-powered ranger'. in the end they choose what type they want to be. and the devs choose to who they will listen. ---------------------------Ryilan Nightbreeze --------------------------- __________________

02-13-2006, 10:50 PM	#8
Fennir Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 760	poor wittle mages SO CUTE __________________ " I constanly read these forums and seeing your stupid sig starting too get to me" - finedork

02-14-2006, 01:32 AM	#9
xandez Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,044	Bahaha... [Removed for Content] darn wizzies! :smileymad: ++Xan __________________ One can survive everything, nowadays, except death, and live down everything except a good reputation.

02-13-2006, 07:53 PM	#1
Tom3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Great Britain, England, Kent. Posts: 34	OMG, maybe ive been living under a rock for the past few months, but i just heard about pvp from a friend. Ive got some inital questions like where i can go to transfer to the servers etc but i just wanted to say... omg... we will so own. I play a 60Ranger on AB and in duels i find that NO ONE can beat me, i am unstopable. My RL friend says that Rangers are overpowered, but thats just because he's a wizard and is "apparently meant to do more dps and be tier1??" bull, i say things are fine and he's just annoyed that i can take Sha'Ir in Maj'dul in under 2 minutes and he cant. We are, and should be the best dmg class ever, on raids i consistantly parse over 1.2 k dps and i am JUST THRILLED about the direction that SoE is taking my class. UP UP AND AWAY SoE, Great job, keep the good news coming.

02-13-2006, 08:03 PM	#3
Tom3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Great Britain, England, Kent. Posts: 34	huh? no, its not an invite to a nerf? its the truth... we shouldnt be nerfed, we are good at some things, bad at others

02-13-2006, 08:11 PM	#5
Cael General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 137	And after looking a little at his other posts, his main is a 42 Warlock, he has a 36 Necro, and a 22 Coercer. So he likes mages apparently lol

02-13-2006, 10:42 PM	#7
BtilTheMage Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 138	"as for wizzies and tier 1 dps and stuff: it's getting old. some wizzies know their class and know they can kick butt and they get along with us pretty well. others have some issues and formulate their worries and thoughts in a constructive manner. then others think they should out-dps the whole world all the time on any mob, run dps-parsers without knowing what added effects are behind the dps numbers, and like to point at 'the over-powered ranger'. in the end they choose what type they want to be. and the devs choose to who they will listen." I guarantee it's more annoying to have SOE ignore Sorcerer issues than it is to read a post you don't even have to click on in the first place. Everyone admits there are issues. The reason it's getting old is because the issues have been around for pretty much the entire game. So, the issues are old. It's not really surprising that they haven't been fixed by now though. Message Edited by BtilTheMage on 02-13-200609:42 AM

02-14-2006, 02:33 AM	#10
coltla General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 107	I was dusting my quiver last night and 3 wizards died. I don't know how it happend. Then, as I was walking away my bow string snaped and killed a warlock. Rangers are Teh 1111!! R0ck! 1337 4 life!FEED THE TROLL!

02-14-2006, 12:25 PM	#11
jarlaxle8 General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 512	jarlaxle888 wrote: as for wizzies and tier 1 dps and stuff: it's getting old. some wizzies know their class and know they can kick butt and they get along with us pretty well. others have some issues and formulate their worries and thoughts in a constructive manner. then others think they should out-dps the whole world all the time on any mob, run dps-parsers without knowing what added effects are behind the dps numbers, and like to point at 'the over-powered ranger'. in the end they choose what type they want to be. and the devs choose to who they will listen. ---------------------------Ryilan Nightbreeze --------------------------- addition: replace 'wizzies' with 'sorcerers'.plus, there is another type of sorcerer, although very rarely seen, but if around hard to get away, like warts: those sorcerers that like to hang out in other classes forums and try to get a point over to that class - of course without knowing that class - and somehow hoping the devs will change all as soon as all members of that class agree that, compared to them, sorcerers suck big time... rangers are uber-l33t pwnerers. i do PP runs to warm up. cazel is a farm mob to me. if they would raise the level cap to 80, i bet i could take out naggy with a bit of training... TROLL FOOD ANYONE!? WHEN IT'S FEEDING TIME YOU MAY FEED OUR TROLL EXHIBIT! HE EVEN EATS FROM YOUR HAND! (just pull it back quick enough...) ---------------------------Ryilan Nightbreeze --------------------------- __________________

02-14-2006, 01:07 PM	#12
Crychtonn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 684	Rangers are good for PvP but nothing beats a Brigand.

02-14-2006, 11:41 PM	#13
Jay General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,137	coltlane wrote:I was dusting my quiver last night and 3 wizards died. HAHAHAHAHA!!! OMG.. whew...that was really good I never encourage the cross-class hate, but absurdity like this is funny stuff. Besides, I think Colt is spot on in ridiculing the whole situation, not insulting sorcerors. (I still don't understand why they think we can fix their problems.) __________________

02-15-2006, 02:26 AM	#14
tass Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,097	either way no one know what soe is gonna do with all the classes in there clutches. I for 1 pity anyone who has an assumption of what his class will be becauuse u will most likly get downtroten when u play and find out what soe will do to all of the classes to make it a survivable envirnment. simple terms? there taking the omega bat out and waloping all the classes at once to fit just right:smileyvery-happy:

02-15-2006, 04:09 AM	#15
Carna Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 515	I hope anybody from SoE passing through this thread notes very firmly that the OP is a caster. That's [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] low. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's against the terms of service. I'd suggest the Rangers here consider PMing the mods. That post is well above and beyond the normal efforts to get a class nerfed.

02-15-2006, 04:53 AM	#16
chrno01 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 79	Hi, im from the PvP boards...well thats where I post most and I have alot of info on it. And yes you have been living under a rock. As for PvP there are NO TRANSFERS and I repeat NONE! Period there are no special pvp servers to transfer you character or anything you have to start brand new. As for rangers and pvp, well there rules are different you have regular pve attacks and those wont ever change in PvP however while in combat with another person your spells have a double effect and work different. This is the same for every class. CA might not do as much damage there simple scaled down a bit but are still powerful, different skills have different uses as well like the rangers evade. When used your opponent will instantly lose your target along with going invis does the same thing. You can click and get the target back as well. For invis theres a 20m radius for it meaning if your 20m away from your opponent they cant see you, if your within 20m they can see a shadowy outline of you and attack.Now as for rangers in general in PvP, there still good like on PvE but no where near unstoppable (actually from experience you guys arnt all that unstoppable now that you cant hit me from any distance with your bow CA). In PvP rangers are some what dominant but are getting thrashed up close by people. Read more up on the PvP forum.

02-15-2006, 04:55 AM	#17
Crychtonn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 684	Carnagh welcome to the current life of a Ranger.