Poison questions

PulsarBD · 02-02-2006, 08:18 PM

i just started a Ranger short while ago, and just dicovered the benefits of poisons.but i have 2 question:1. do poisons stack? can i use a poison with DOT and a stun poison?2. i have the feeling that the poison are not taking effect as long as intended:while the usage period of my stun poison says 12 hours it usually only works a couple of kills.(is this a bug evetually?)Please comment.Cheers,Pulsar

RedArcher · 02-02-2006, 08:20 PM

PulsarBD wrote:i just started a Ranger short while ago, and just dicovered the benefits of poisons.but i have 2 question:1. do poisons stack? can i use a poison with DOT and a stun poison?2. i have the feeling that the poison are not taking effect as long as intended:while the usage period of my stun poison says 12 hours it usually only works a couple of kills.(is this a bug evetually?)Please comment.Cheers,Pulsar

There are a couple of posts on this just down the list a little ways.

Akamaru · 02-02-2006, 08:30 PM

Hope this helps:Poison Guidehttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19711and maybe this one?Poison List (Tier 6, but has some good explainations)http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19985Problems with Poisonshttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19781Also, http://www.eq2alchemy.com and http://www.eq2potions.com/ maybe be of some use to you SMILEY

Enjoy!

Message Edited by Aristoth on 02-02-200611:31 PM

PulsarBD · 02-02-2006, 08:33 PM

well i searched a couple of pages back, and could not find any information on this.i wonder why it is so hard to answer 2 simple questions.:smileysurprised:i cant read through all the threads here in the forum.

Beldin_ · 02-02-2006, 08:37 PM

PulsarBD wrote:i just started a Ranger short while ago, and just dicovered the benefits of poisons.but i have 2 question:1. do poisons stack? can i use a poison with DOT and a stun poison?2. i have the feeling that the poison are not taking effect as long as intended:while the usage period of my stun poison says 12 hours it usually only works a couple of kills.(is this a bug evetually?)Please comment.Cheers,Pulsar

You can stack 1 Damage, 1 Debuff and Stun Potion.

12 hours is just the time the potion will last if you don't consume it before, normally a damage poison has 200 or 300 charges, a debuff 60 or 80 and stun has 30 (not totally shure of correct the numbers) .. however you will see that a stun potion is consumed very fast and the damage poison last for the longest time SMILEY

PulsarBD · 02-02-2006, 08:45 PM

Beldin_ wrote:
PulsarBD wrote:i just started a Ranger short while ago, and just dicovered the benefits of poisons.but i have 2 question:1. do poisons stack? can i use a poison with DOT and a stun poison?2. i have the feeling that the poison are not taking effect as long as intended:while the usage period of my stun poison says 12 hours it usually only works a couple of kills.(is this a bug evetually?)Please comment.Cheers,Pulsar
You can stack 1 Damage, 1 Debuff and Stun Potion.
12 hours is just the time the potion will last if you don't consume it before, normally a damage poison has 200 or 300 charges, a debuff 60 or 80 and stun has 30 (not totally shure of correct the numbers) .. however you will see that a stun potion is consumed very fast and the damage poison last for the longest time

Wow! Thanks for the answer is was looking for! SMILEY

one question remains now:how can i check how many charges are left in my poison? or can i only see that by the disappearing poison icon?at least your answer helped me a big dealThanks! :smileyvery-happy:

Roverpso · 02-02-2006, 08:46 PM

Quick answer to your questions:

(1) Yes, poisons stack. There are 3 types that can be used simultaenously: (a) damage poision (DD & DOT mix); (b) debuff - my favotite are debuffs to piercing and poson damage; and (c) misc. - such as a snare or stunn posion. These will supposedly be easier to identify with the upcoming changes, but the easy way is to look at the proc %:. Damage posions have 25% rate, Debuffs have a 20% rate, and Misc. have a 15% rate. Second part of your question - yes you can use damage and stun together. Stuns are hard to find. I always have the Damge and debuff posions up - but will save the stuns for difficuly mobs.

(2) They are working correctly - you are confusing the duration with the number of processes ("procs&quot SMILEY e. When you use a charge of the posion - it will stay up for 12 hours - meaning if you are online but not fighiting - or fighting very little - it will still be active for 12 hours. However, this does not mean you cannot use it up in less time. You probably will use them up in much less time than 12 hours. This is because the poisons have a limited number of procs. Damage posions have 200 procs, debuffs 100, misc. 40. When you use up the procs - the posion is gone. (these numbers are for crafted poisons)

PulsarBD · 02-02-2006, 08:49 PM

Aristoth wrote:
Hope this helps:Poison Guidehttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19711and maybe this one?Poison List (Tier 6, but has some good explainations)http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19985Problems with Poisonshttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19781Also, http://www.eq2alchemy.com and http://www.eq2potions.com/ maybe be of some use to you Enjoy!
Message Edited by Aristoth on 02-02-200611:31 PM

i read the first 2 link you gave my, but could not find an answer to my question.but i got a perfect answer in this thread now. Thanks for the hint to the problem thread.I wish the person who answered my post first would have given me such a nice answer as you and Beldin_ did....Thanks!Cheers,Pulsar

Akamaru · 02-02-2006, 08:50 PM

PulsarBD wrote:
Wow! Thanks for the answer is was looking for!one question remains now:how can i check how many charges are left in my poison? or can i only see that by the disappearing poison icon?at least your answer helped me a big dealThanks! :smileyvery-happy:

After this update going throught now you'll be able to see how many procs are left in your poisonFrom Test Update 19A - http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=100Information:- Poison tooltips will now display the remaining proc count of your poison.

PulsarBD · 02-02-2006, 08:52 PM

Roverpso wrote:
Quick answer to your questions:

(1) Yes, poisons stack. There are 3 types that can be used simultaenously: (a) damage poision (DD & DOT mix); (b) debuff - my favotite are debuffs to piercing and poson damage; and (c) misc. - such as a snare or stunn posion. These will supposedly be easier to identify with the upcoming changes, but the easy way is to look at the proc %:. Damage posions have 25% rate, Debuffs have a 20% rate, and Misc. have a 15% rate. Second part of your question - yes you can use damage and stun together. Stuns are hard to find. I always have the Damge and debuff posions up - but will save the stuns for difficuly mobs.
(2) They are working correctly - you are confusing the duration with the number of processes ("procs&quote. When you use a charge of the posion - it will stay up for 12 hours - meaning if you are online but not fighiting - or fighting very little - it will still be active for 12 hours. However, this does not mean you cannot use it up in less time. You probably will use them up in much less time than 12 hours. This is because the poisons have a limited number of procs. Damage posions have 200 procs, debuffs 100, misc. 40. When you use up the procs - the posion is gone. (these numbers are for crafted poisons)

super duper! :smileyhappy:Thanks to you as well!Best,Pulsar

RedArcher · 02-02-2006, 09:25 PM

PulsarBD wrote:
Aristoth wrote:
Hope this helps:Poison Guidehttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19711and maybe this one?Poison List (Tier 6, but has some good explainations)http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19985Problems with Poisonshttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19781Also, http://www.eq2alchemy.com and http://www.eq2potions.com/ maybe be of some use to you Enjoy!
Message Edited by Aristoth on 02-02-200611:31 PM
i read the first 2 link you gave my, but could not find an answer to my question.but i got a perfect answer in this thread now. Thanks for the hint to the problem thread.I wish the person who answered my post first would have given me such a nice answer as you and Beldin_ did....Thanks!Cheers,Pulsar

Take it how you want it... but I meant it nicely and was simply directing you to where there were a couple of posts that had some good discussions on them, I am at work and didnt have time to link everything and do your thinking for you. This is the reason I dont answer posts. People throw their macho b.s., drama and politics into everything. Next time I will ignore the questions and move on.

02-02-2006, 08:30 PM	#3
Akamaru Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 20	Hope this helps:Poison Guidehttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19711and maybe this one?Poison List (Tier 6, but has some good explainations)http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19985Problems with Poisonshttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19781Also, http://www.eq2alchemy.com and http://www.eq2potions.com/ maybe be of some use to you Enjoy! Message Edited by Aristoth on 02-02-200611:31 PM

02-02-2006, 08:37 PM	#5
Beldin_ Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,343	PulsarBD wrote:i just started a Ranger short while ago, and just dicovered the benefits of poisons.but i have 2 question:1. do poisons stack? can i use a poison with DOT and a stun poison?2. i have the feeling that the poison are not taking effect as long as intended:while the usage period of my stun poison says 12 hours it usually only works a couple of kills.(is this a bug evetually?)Please comment.Cheers,Pulsar You can stack 1 Damage, 1 Debuff and Stun Potion. 12 hours is just the time the potion will last if you don't consume it before, normally a damage poison has 200 or 300 charges, a debuff 60 or 80 and stun has 30 (not totally shure of correct the numbers) .. however you will see that a stun potion is consumed very fast and the damage poison last for the longest time __________________

02-02-2006, 08:45 PM	#6
PulsarBD Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 50	Beldin_ wrote: PulsarBD wrote:i just started a Ranger short while ago, and just dicovered the benefits of poisons.but i have 2 question:1. do poisons stack? can i use a poison with DOT and a stun poison?2. i have the feeling that the poison are not taking effect as long as intended:while the usage period of my stun poison says 12 hours it usually only works a couple of kills.(is this a bug evetually?)Please comment.Cheers,Pulsar You can stack 1 Damage, 1 Debuff and Stun Potion. 12 hours is just the time the potion will last if you don't consume it before, normally a damage poison has 200 or 300 charges, a debuff 60 or 80 and stun has 30 (not totally shure of correct the numbers) .. however you will see that a stun potion is consumed very fast and the damage poison last for the longest time Wow! Thanks for the answer is was looking for!one question remains now:how can i check how many charges are left in my poison? or can i only see that by the disappearing poison icon?at least your answer helped me a big dealThanks! :smileyvery-happy:

02-02-2006, 08:46 PM	#7
Roverpso Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6	Quick answer to your questions: (1) Yes, poisons stack. There are 3 types that can be used simultaenously: (a) damage poision (DD & DOT mix); (b) debuff - my favotite are debuffs to piercing and poson damage; and (c) misc. - such as a snare or stunn posion. These will supposedly be easier to identify with the upcoming changes, but the easy way is to look at the proc %:. Damage posions have 25% rate, Debuffs have a 20% rate, and Misc. have a 15% rate. Second part of your question - yes you can use damage and stun together. Stuns are hard to find. I always have the Damge and debuff posions up - but will save the stuns for difficuly mobs. (2) They are working correctly - you are confusing the duration with the number of processes ("procs&quote. When you use a charge of the posion - it will stay up for 12 hours - meaning if you are online but not fighiting - or fighting very little - it will still be active for 12 hours. However, this does not mean you cannot use it up in less time. You probably will use them up in much less time than 12 hours. This is because the poisons have a limited number of procs. Damage posions have 200 procs, debuffs 100, misc. 40. When you use up the procs - the posion is gone. (these numbers are for crafted poisons)

02-02-2006, 08:49 PM	#8
PulsarBD Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 50	Aristoth wrote: Hope this helps:Poison Guidehttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19711and maybe this one?Poison List (Tier 6, but has some good explainations)http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19985Problems with Poisonshttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19781Also, http://www.eq2alchemy.com and http://www.eq2potions.com/ maybe be of some use to you Enjoy! Message Edited by Aristoth on 02-02-200611:31 PM i read the first 2 link you gave my, but could not find an answer to my question.but i got a perfect answer in this thread now. Thanks for the hint to the problem thread.I wish the person who answered my post first would have given me such a nice answer as you and Beldin_ did....Thanks!Cheers,Pulsar

02-02-2006, 08:18 PM	#1
PulsarBD Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 50	i just started a Ranger short while ago, and just dicovered the benefits of poisons.but i have 2 question:1. do poisons stack? can i use a poison with DOT and a stun poison?2. i have the feeling that the poison are not taking effect as long as intended:while the usage period of my stun poison says 12 hours it usually only works a couple of kills.(is this a bug evetually?)Please comment.Cheers,Pulsar

02-02-2006, 08:20 PM	#2
RedArcher Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 48	PulsarBD wrote:i just started a Ranger short while ago, and just dicovered the benefits of poisons.but i have 2 question:1. do poisons stack? can i use a poison with DOT and a stun poison?2. i have the feeling that the poison are not taking effect as long as intended:while the usage period of my stun poison says 12 hours it usually only works a couple of kills.(is this a bug evetually?)Please comment.Cheers,Pulsar There are a couple of posts on this just down the list a little ways.

02-02-2006, 08:33 PM	#4
PulsarBD Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 50	well i searched a couple of pages back, and could not find any information on this.i wonder why it is so hard to answer 2 simple questions.:smileysurprised:i cant read through all the threads here in the forum.

02-02-2006, 08:50 PM	#9
Akamaru Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 20	PulsarBD wrote: Wow! Thanks for the answer is was looking for!one question remains now:how can i check how many charges are left in my poison? or can i only see that by the disappearing poison icon?at least your answer helped me a big dealThanks! :smileyvery-happy: After this update going throught now you'll be able to see how many procs are left in your poisonFrom Test Update 19A - http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=100Information:- Poison tooltips will now display the remaining proc count of your poison.

02-02-2006, 08:52 PM	#10
PulsarBD Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 50	Roverpso wrote: Quick answer to your questions: (1) Yes, poisons stack. There are 3 types that can be used simultaenously: (a) damage poision (DD & DOT mix); (b) debuff - my favotite are debuffs to piercing and poson damage; and (c) misc. - such as a snare or stunn posion. These will supposedly be easier to identify with the upcoming changes, but the easy way is to look at the proc %:. Damage posions have 25% rate, Debuffs have a 20% rate, and Misc. have a 15% rate. Second part of your question - yes you can use damage and stun together. Stuns are hard to find. I always have the Damge and debuff posions up - but will save the stuns for difficuly mobs. (2) They are working correctly - you are confusing the duration with the number of processes ("procs&quote. When you use a charge of the posion - it will stay up for 12 hours - meaning if you are online but not fighiting - or fighting very little - it will still be active for 12 hours. However, this does not mean you cannot use it up in less time. You probably will use them up in much less time than 12 hours. This is because the poisons have a limited number of procs. Damage posions have 200 procs, debuffs 100, misc. 40. When you use up the procs - the posion is gone. (these numbers are for crafted poisons) super duper! :smileyhappy:Thanks to you as well!Best,Pulsar

02-02-2006, 09:25 PM	#11
RedArcher Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 48	PulsarBD wrote: Aristoth wrote: Hope this helps:Poison Guidehttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19711and maybe this one?Poison List (Tier 6, but has some good explainations)http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19985Problems with Poisonshttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=19781Also, http://www.eq2alchemy.com and http://www.eq2potions.com/ maybe be of some use to you Enjoy! Message Edited by Aristoth on 02-02-200611:31 PM i read the first 2 link you gave my, but could not find an answer to my question.but i got a perfect answer in this thread now. Thanks for the hint to the problem thread.I wish the person who answered my post first would have given me such a nice answer as you and Beldin_ did....Thanks!Cheers,Pulsar Take it how you want it... but I meant it nicely and was simply directing you to where there were a couple of posts that had some good discussions on them, I am at work and didnt have time to link everything and do your thinking for you. This is the reason I dont answer posts. People throw their macho b.s., drama and politics into everything. Next time I will ignore the questions and move on.