Have a feysteel - what would you have imbued?

Grunar · 03-28-2005, 11:21 PM

Ok, I'm just about to ding 31, so this feysteel I recently got is probably going to last me quite some time. Just curious what you all would have imbued?

In case you didn't know you can imbue Breastpiece (heal over time proc when hit) / Legs (damage proc when hit) / weapons (damage proc) Can't think of anything else to use a feysteel with right now...

Now on what I have now (from eq2players items list)

Ebon Eye BP http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=12044- going to be very similar, but without the proc

268ac 7agi, 4str, 18hp, 14power, some saves

pristine carbonite legs http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=10376 - would be a big increase probably

128ac 3int, 3str, 8hp, 12power some saves

Sai of the Silent http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=9897

15-45, 1.7 delay 2agi, 6str, 15hp, 13power

Twisted Kukri http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=8248

11-34 1.2 delay 6agi, 3str, 14hp, 18power

I normally solo, so getting hit happens alot. But I do group too, thats when the proc on the armor isn't going to help much. So I'm leaning towards getting one of the weapons upgraded. Any thoughts?

WuphonsReach · 03-28-2005, 11:30 PM

Personal preference would be a kris weapon (piercing). With the Polished Granite Tomahawk in my off-hand (slashing). The reason I prefer rare metal weapons is that they're about 2-3 levels better then the regular stuff (I used my rare steel from levels 20-33).There are dev notes that indicate additional imbue recipes are about to hit either test/live servers in the next few days. So you could possibly get an imbued feysteel weapon if you wait a bit longer.

TricksyRaton · 03-29-2005, 01:18 AM

Imbue a feysteel weapon, it will help you do your job much more so than armor.

Dtrick · 03-29-2005, 02:14 AM

Personally, I would not use it for a weapon. One thing we have is the choice from plenty of weapons. At level 32 just grab a Slime Coated Harpoon (very easy quest for gobblerock's hideout in commonlands) and a PGT. By the time you are level 40, you can use the SSoY. I tend to solo a lot or group without a healer, so a BP with a heal proc would be far more valuable to me than any weapon.

fur · 03-29-2005, 01:23 PM

Well the feysteel armor is sweet and youll be hardpressed to get armor with comparable stats until your 40,s that beeing said i would probably still get proccable feysteel weaps as they are just to good to pass up. As were dps weapon's should always be your primary concern. Alot of people use the ssoy/sbd combo at 40+ but even that combo is kinda weak when compared to the new proccing ebon weapons, ssoy has extremly crappy stats and way to low delay so im not gonna use that one, sbd is better with both slower delay and better stats but suffers from lack of procc, will still get it though as its a piercer and gonna need 2 of those to compliment my slashers (planning on getting dual proccing ebon sabres probably when the recipie go live), also remember that some light armor t5 rare has better "scout" stats on em and the differance in ac isnt a major setback unless you replace the bp/legs or wrist's as they are the "high" ac pieces and the t5 rare pelts sell for 1/10 of the ebon's.

Dtrick · 03-30-2005, 01:51 AM

I just did a little research on the proc for weapons and they totally outdue any heritage weapon we can get our hands on. So, what is the point of Heritage items now? If it wasn't for the great guild xp they give, I think I would stop spending so much time on them.

Kegofbud · 03-30-2005, 02:01 AM

Furok, the stats on the SSOY are not extremely weak. They are, in fact, nicer then most weapons. Your best combo for group combat in the 40s IS the SSOY/SBD combo, solo is SSOY/PGT, until you can get a proc'ing ebon weapon to replace them. There haven't been many weapons made yet with the proc on them so we are still finding out what the best ones will be. I like the lower delays better then the leafblades myself and it seems to be personal preference because the DPS tends to balance itself out over a fight. You seem to be down on the SSOY without ever using one. It procs pretty regularly, even when just firing your bow. If you skip this weapon, you'll be missing out. I plan on getting an ebon weapon made too but it's a tall price yet because ebon is scarce now. I've done my imbued ebon chest and I'm doing legs before I go with a weapon (though I think it's perfectly logical to do a weapon before armor).

Dtrick, they had said at some point I believe, that crafted weapons were going to be better then drops and quests. At least that's what was said by the devs during beta. I agree that if you can get your hands on pieces of ebon that heritage weapons are cheapened now, but it's not going to be easy to just go out and get one of these weapons. right now on my server ebon raws sell for 4p each on average and there is a major shortage in rare raw materials since the patch included imbuing. Heritage weapons are a good hold over until you can get one for yourself and the PGT is always going to be useful soloing.

Message Edited by Kegofbud on 03-29-2005 01:05 PM

Grunar · 03-30-2005, 02:24 AM

I think I'm going to go with the feysteel sai, when those are available. Both Legs and Chest would be a nice mitigation increase, but I would end up losing 1 agi on the chest (not that big of deal) and something like 6 on the legs as I just got some D'Morte chain legs. (D'morte chain has agi on every piece i have seen so far)

So a weapon would be the largest increase for me. Plus add a proc on top of it to boot.

Kegofbud · 03-30-2005, 02:28 AM

Being that your job is to lay down the DPS, I'd have a hard time arguing against your decision. Do what's best for you. It's a game after all and your enjoyment is all that matters. You can't go wrong with any piece you get made. You're going to be very proud of it regardless of what you choose.

fur · 03-30-2005, 11:47 AM

Kegofbud your absolutly right regarding me not having ssoy (my first 50 char is a bruiser so no need for ssoy=) however the ssoy compared to a ebon shortsword (with which it shares the same delay 1.2) is alot crappier, thats what i meant. Currently ebon proccs do in the upper 300's which makes the ssoys procc look weak , and to top it off ebon shortsword is like 12 strength 8 agi which is also far superior to the ssoy , with crafted ebon weapons you can tailor the stats to your liking as well and the raw damage is also superior to heritage weapons. On the + side , ssoys is a very fast and easy heritage to do (when you got citadel acess + mr invis wanderer over and done with) so yeah i'll agree that until you can get your hands on dual proccing ebons, ssoy and sbd is a good choice.

Chaos 37 Brigand

Skull 50 Bruiser

Kithicor

Kegofbud · 03-30-2005, 11:35 PM

The ebon shortsword is a better overall weapon, but here's my arguement. I wouldn't call the stats "far superior". Yeah, the proc on the Imbued Ebon is great, no one is arguing that. It's nearly 3 times the proc on the SSOY. Try getting your hands on Ebon raws though. Most people can't afford let alone find one. Heck even when I have the cash to buy it, they are tough to find since the patch. Everyone in their 40s is fighting over the things.

The SSOY has 10 AGI, 5STR, 35 Health, 35 Power

The Imbued Ebon Shortsword has 9 AGI, 11STR, 35 Health, 33 Power ( As far as I know, to imbue the Ebon SS it has to be of pristine quality so you can't tailor stats anymore then that. I may stand corrected by someone but that's my current understanding.)

The stats there as written, are fairly similar and being of Rogue class I'll take the extra 1AGI and +2 Power over the 6STR and 4p cost for the Ebon SS if I'm strapped for cash. The stats are nicer on the Ebon for a non AGI fighting class. The only thing making the Ebon better IMO is the Proc being so much more. Since this proc occurs 5% of the landed attacks, and it's minimum hit falls int he range of the SSOY, it doesn't make it essential for everyone to get one immediately. It's a better weapon overall but you trivialize the SSOY way too much.

I also think you've trivialized the SSOY quest as well. It's not really "very fast" or "easy". Goorlux can be a pain to camp. Getting a group, if you are in a small guild, for DFC is a pain. people are always complaining abotu trying to find a group for that quest. I've seen multiple wipes trying to finish the buggy DFC zone. Sure if you take your level 50s in for the trip it's nothing but if you are around 40 and the tank isn't 45+ it can be a death sentence.

Dtrick · 03-31-2005, 01:20 AM

We tried DFC with 10 people rangeing from level 37 - 43. Ater the 4 hours it took us to get to emporer Fyst, we were down to 8 people. Our tank was only level 43 and a bit too low to tank and hold agro on Fyst. We wiped and there went 4 hours down the toilet, with no SSoY for me.

I would not call this quest easy nor fast.

WuphonsReach · 03-31-2005, 03:19 AM

We tried Fyst with a 46 SK, 46 Inq, 42 Inq, 37 brigand (me!). It was close... *very* close. We at least knocked him down a bit, but he still was getting off 1500+ special attacks on the SK. Up until that point, we had to deal with lots and lots of buggy mobs (the ones that run around in the courtyard outside have an overly large aggro range).

Kegofbud · 04-02-2005, 01:04 AM

Aye, when I finally got my SSOY I assembled a group of a 49 and 47 Pally, 50 Templar, 46 Chanter, 42 Warlock and myself. Then, it was a cakewalk and the zone was gray so we pretty much killed only the necc mobs to open the doors to Fyst. The last attempt I went on before the success got me killed 3 times since the healers kept battle rezzing me and the tank never used taunt once, causing me to be killed in 3 hits for using one special. I was NOT going through that again. lol

03-28-2005, 11:21 PM	#1
Grunar Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	Ok, I'm just about to ding 31, so this feysteel I recently got is probably going to last me quite some time. Just curious what you all would have imbued? In case you didn't know you can imbue Breastpiece (heal over time proc when hit) / Legs (damage proc when hit) / weapons (damage proc) Can't think of anything else to use a feysteel with right now... Now on what I have now (from eq2players items list) Ebon Eye BP http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=12044- going to be very similar, but without the proc 268ac 7agi, 4str, 18hp, 14power, some saves pristine carbonite legs http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=10376 - would be a big increase probably 128ac 3int, 3str, 8hp, 12power some saves Sai of the Silent http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=9897 15-45, 1.7 delay 2agi, 6str, 15hp, 13power Twisted Kukri http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=8248 11-34 1.2 delay 6agi, 3str, 14hp, 18power I normally solo, so getting hit happens alot. But I do group too, thats when the proc on the armor isn't going to help much. So I'm leaning towards getting one of the weapons upgraded. Any thoughts? __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever notice that men always jiggle the fuel pump before removing it from the vehicle?

03-28-2005, 11:30 PM	#2
WuphonsReach Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 558	Personal preference would be a kris weapon (piercing). With the Polished Granite Tomahawk in my off-hand (slashing). The reason I prefer rare metal weapons is that they're about 2-3 levels better then the regular stuff (I used my rare steel from levels 20-33).There are dev notes that indicate additional imbue recipes are about to hit either test/live servers in the next few days. So you could possibly get an imbued feysteel weapon if you wait a bit longer. __________________ -- Snabbik of Test Pre-order/account canceled on Sep 8 2005

03-30-2005, 02:01 AM	#7
Kegofbud Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 925	Furok, the stats on the SSOY are not extremely weak. They are, in fact, nicer then most weapons. Your best combo for group combat in the 40s IS the SSOY/SBD combo, solo is SSOY/PGT, until you can get a proc'ing ebon weapon to replace them. There haven't been many weapons made yet with the proc on them so we are still finding out what the best ones will be. I like the lower delays better then the leafblades myself and it seems to be personal preference because the DPS tends to balance itself out over a fight. You seem to be down on the SSOY without ever using one. It procs pretty regularly, even when just firing your bow. If you skip this weapon, you'll be missing out. I plan on getting an ebon weapon made too but it's a tall price yet because ebon is scarce now. I've done my imbued ebon chest and I'm doing legs before I go with a weapon (though I think it's perfectly logical to do a weapon before armor). Dtrick, they had said at some point I believe, that crafted weapons were going to be better then drops and quests. At least that's what was said by the devs during beta. I agree that if you can get your hands on pieces of ebon that heritage weapons are cheapened now, but it's not going to be easy to just go out and get one of these weapons. right now on my server ebon raws sell for 4p each on average and there is a major shortage in rare raw materials since the patch included imbuing. Heritage weapons are a good hold over until you can get one for yourself and the PGT is always going to be useful soloing. Message Edited by Kegofbud on 03-29-2005 01:05 PM __________________ Choatly - 90 Defiler

03-30-2005, 02:24 AM	#8
Grunar Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	I think I'm going to go with the feysteel sai, when those are available. Both Legs and Chest would be a nice mitigation increase, but I would end up losing 1 agi on the chest (not that big of deal) and something like 6 on the legs as I just got some D'Morte chain legs. (D'morte chain has agi on every piece i have seen so far) So a weapon would be the largest increase for me. Plus add a proc on top of it to boot. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever notice that men always jiggle the fuel pump before removing it from the vehicle?

03-30-2005, 02:28 AM	#9
Kegofbud Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 925	Being that your job is to lay down the DPS, I'd have a hard time arguing against your decision. Do what's best for you. It's a game after all and your enjoyment is all that matters. You can't go wrong with any piece you get made. You're going to be very proud of it regardless of what you choose. __________________ Choatly - 90 Defiler

03-29-2005, 01:18 AM	#3
TricksyRaton Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 42	Imbue a feysteel weapon, it will help you do your job much more so than armor.

03-29-2005, 02:14 AM	#4
Dtrick Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 234	Personally, I would not use it for a weapon. One thing we have is the choice from plenty of weapons. At level 32 just grab a Slime Coated Harpoon (very easy quest for gobblerock's hideout in commonlands) and a PGT. By the time you are level 40, you can use the SSoY. I tend to solo a lot or group without a healer, so a BP with a heal proc would be far more valuable to me than any weapon.

03-29-2005, 01:23 PM	#5
fur General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 158	Well the feysteel armor is sweet and youll be hardpressed to get armor with comparable stats until your 40,s that beeing said i would probably still get proccable feysteel weaps as they are just to good to pass up. As were dps weapon's should always be your primary concern. Alot of people use the ssoy/sbd combo at 40+ but even that combo is kinda weak when compared to the new proccing ebon weapons, ssoy has extremly crappy stats and way to low delay so im not gonna use that one, sbd is better with both slower delay and better stats but suffers from lack of procc, will still get it though as its a piercer and gonna need 2 of those to compliment my slashers (planning on getting dual proccing ebon sabres probably when the recipie go live), also remember that some light armor t5 rare has better "scout" stats on em and the differance in ac isnt a major setback unless you replace the bp/legs or wrist's as they are the "high" ac pieces and the t5 rare pelts sell for 1/10 of the ebon's.

03-30-2005, 01:51 AM	#6
Dtrick Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 234	I just did a little research on the proc for weapons and they totally outdue any heritage weapon we can get our hands on. So, what is the point of Heritage items now? If it wasn't for the great guild xp they give, I think I would stop spending so much time on them.

03-30-2005, 11:47 AM	#10
fur General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 158	Kegofbud your absolutly right regarding me not having ssoy (my first 50 char is a bruiser so no need for ssoy=) however the ssoy compared to a ebon shortsword (with which it shares the same delay 1.2) is alot crappier, thats what i meant. Currently ebon proccs do in the upper 300's which makes the ssoys procc look weak , and to top it off ebon shortsword is like 12 strength 8 agi which is also far superior to the ssoy , with crafted ebon weapons you can tailor the stats to your liking as well and the raw damage is also superior to heritage weapons. On the + side , ssoys is a very fast and easy heritage to do (when you got citadel acess + mr invis wanderer over and done with) so yeah i'll agree that until you can get your hands on dual proccing ebons, ssoy and sbd is a good choice. Chaos 37 Brigand Skull 50 Bruiser Kithicor

03-30-2005, 11:35 PM	#11
Kegofbud Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 925	The ebon shortsword is a better overall weapon, but here's my arguement. I wouldn't call the stats "far superior". Yeah, the proc on the Imbued Ebon is great, no one is arguing that. It's nearly 3 times the proc on the SSOY. Try getting your hands on Ebon raws though. Most people can't afford let alone find one. Heck even when I have the cash to buy it, they are tough to find since the patch. Everyone in their 40s is fighting over the things. The SSOY has 10 AGI, 5STR, 35 Health, 35 Power The Imbued Ebon Shortsword has 9 AGI, 11STR, 35 Health, 33 Power ( As far as I know, to imbue the Ebon SS it has to be of pristine quality so you can't tailor stats anymore then that. I may stand corrected by someone but that's my current understanding.) The stats there as written, are fairly similar and being of Rogue class I'll take the extra 1AGI and +2 Power over the 6STR and 4p cost for the Ebon SS if I'm strapped for cash. The stats are nicer on the Ebon for a non AGI fighting class. The only thing making the Ebon better IMO is the Proc being so much more. Since this proc occurs 5% of the landed attacks, and it's minimum hit falls int he range of the SSOY, it doesn't make it essential for everyone to get one immediately. It's a better weapon overall but you trivialize the SSOY way too much. I also think you've trivialized the SSOY quest as well. It's not really "very fast" or "easy". Goorlux can be a pain to camp. Getting a group, if you are in a small guild, for DFC is a pain. people are always complaining abotu trying to find a group for that quest. I've seen multiple wipes trying to finish the buggy DFC zone. Sure if you take your level 50s in for the trip it's nothing but if you are around 40 and the tank isn't 45+ it can be a death sentence. __________________ Choatly - 90 Defiler

03-31-2005, 01:20 AM	#12
Dtrick Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 234	We tried DFC with 10 people rangeing from level 37 - 43. Ater the 4 hours it took us to get to emporer Fyst, we were down to 8 people. Our tank was only level 43 and a bit too low to tank and hold agro on Fyst. We wiped and there went 4 hours down the toilet, with no SSoY for me. I would not call this quest easy nor fast.

03-31-2005, 03:19 AM	#13
WuphonsReach Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 558	We tried Fyst with a 46 SK, 46 Inq, 42 Inq, 37 brigand (me!). It was close... very close. We at least knocked him down a bit, but he still was getting off 1500+ special attacks on the SK. Up until that point, we had to deal with lots and lots of buggy mobs (the ones that run around in the courtyard outside have an overly large aggro range). __________________ -- Snabbik of Test Pre-order/account canceled on Sep 8 2005

04-02-2005, 01:04 AM	#14
Kegofbud Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 925	Aye, when I finally got my SSOY I assembled a group of a 49 and 47 Pally, 50 Templar, 46 Chanter, 42 Warlock and myself. Then, it was a cakewalk and the zone was gray so we pretty much killed only the necc mobs to open the doors to Fyst. The last attempt I went on before the success got me killed 3 times since the healers kept battle rezzing me and the tank never used taunt once, causing me to be killed in 3 hits for using one special. I was NOT going through that again. lol __________________ Choatly - 90 Defiler