Question About Pickpocket

liveja · 11-21-2006, 09:52 PM

The tooltip says that Pickpocket allows you to steal things with a 100% chance of success, but I've failed many, many times, & on occasion, have even caused a mob to aggro on me. That doesn't sound like a 100% chance of success, to me.

Am I missing something, here?

Shagg · 11-22-2006, 12:39 AM

Definitely isn't 100% in my experience. And I thought it used to say it [Removed for Content] them off if they caught you trying to pick their pocket (which makes sense).However I barely ever use it as I'd rather be hitting a CA SMILEY

I'd gladly trade it for Sense Traps or something... you know something that could tell you when mobs were about to be triggered... SMILEY

Syrano · 11-22-2006, 02:43 AM

I use mine all the time, assuming the mobs aren't dying fast. I trigger pick pocket when I'm temporarily out of CA's, at the end of my frist rotation.Generally, on a 3-4 hr night, at lvl 70, I make maybe 6-12gp extra thanks to pick pocket.

Katr · 11-22-2006, 04:58 AM

Definately not 100% but I am up around the 95% success rate.

I always use it when I solo..it is the first thing I do SMILEY

Grouping is anothe matter..dps first then if my CA's are down and I am in the right position to use it I do.

Only lvl 18 atm but this is a great AA and I get around 20cp per pickpocket..it all adds up.

The Adversary · 11-22-2006, 02:36 PM

just macro it with plunder, it takes about a 1/4 of a second to cast & is un-noticable when used that way. plus u will be in position as well cause if plunder doesnt work either will pickpocket (depending on reuse timer)

either way u will get a emote if not in the right position

Cocytus · 11-23-2006, 02:44 AM

I thought about macroing mine with plunder but I would rather see when plunder is up/down. Can't see skill downage on macros. :/

SmCaudata · 11-23-2006, 03:31 AM

Macro has plunder and pick pocket and then you put plunder next to it. It still takes up 2 buttons on your hotbar but only one click and you won't forget about it. SMILEY

Cocytus · 11-23-2006, 03:38 AM

I think I'll try that.

Katr · 11-23-2006, 04:09 AM

Sounds like a good idea.

I assume plunder is a high lvl CA. Will join it up with my sneak attack SMILEY

SmCaudata · 11-23-2006, 10:43 AM

Plunder is the high level of our back attack + agi debuff. It is a good one to have it macro'd with because it is the only attack we have that requires being behind the mob. Sneak attack can be done from any position.

Xektor · 11-23-2006, 09:34 PM

I might be wrong but I think you get an item if you are 100% succsesful. It's not that it'll always be 100%. I fail to steal coin somtimes...that's not 100% stealing.

liveja · 11-28-2006, 06:48 AM

Xektor wrote:
I might be wrong but I think you get an item if you are 100% succsesful. It's not that it'll always be 100%. I fail to steal coin somtimes...that's not 100% stealing.

Hmm, that's an interesting idea, I hadn't heard anything about stealing items. So far, AFAIK, all I've gotten is coin, & I thought that was all that could be stolen. I'll have to keep an eye out, now SMILEY

Debunkt · 11-29-2006, 12:10 AM

It is only coin. You have a chance to steal or fail, if you steal then RNG probably kicks in for coin amount.

Dakkon_10 · 11-29-2006, 02:09 AM

I believe it is successful 100% of the time, but the mobs that are pick pocketable do not have coin on them 100% of the time. You can't steal money that isn't there, but if it is there you will have 100% chance of getting it.

I don't use this ability tho, it's a waste of hotbar space.

Message Edited by Dakkon_1007 on 11-28-2006 01:09 PM

liveja · 11-29-2006, 08:59 PM

Dakkon_1007 wrote: I believe it is successful 100% of the time, but the mobs that are pick pocketable do not have coin on them 100% of the time. You can't steal money that isn't there, but if it is there you will have 100% chance of getting it.

I've seen the message "your attempt to steal something was unsucessful" on a mob, waited until Pickpocket refreshed, & then tried again, successfully. I don't believe it had anything to do with the mob not having any stealable cash on it the first time.

Additionally, I've also seen a message to the effect of "your failed attempt at stealing has angered .....", or something like that, which clearly seems like a "failure" to me SMILEY

I use Pickpocket ALL the time, & have had my cash flow improved by it. Not gigantically, but IMHO it's not intended to make you rich SMILEY

11-21-2006, 09:52 PM	#1
liveja General Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Posts: 4,793	The tooltip says that Pickpocket allows you to steal things with a 100% chance of success, but I've failed many, many times, & on occasion, have even caused a mob to aggro on me. That doesn't sound like a 100% chance of success, to me. Am I missing something, here? __________________

11-22-2006, 12:39 AM	#2
Shagg General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 62	Definitely isn't 100% in my experience. And I thought it used to say it [Removed for Content] them off if they caught you trying to pick their pocket (which makes sense).However I barely ever use it as I'd rather be hitting a CA I'd gladly trade it for Sense Traps or something... you know something that could tell you when mobs were about to be triggered... __________________ Shaggir/Shaggis/Jazze

11-22-2006, 02:43 AM	#3
Syrano Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 404	I use mine all the time, assuming the mobs aren't dying fast. I trigger pick pocket when I'm temporarily out of CA's, at the end of my frist rotation.Generally, on a 3-4 hr night, at lvl 70, I make maybe 6-12gp extra thanks to pick pocket. __________________ Stadic SolÃ¡thar____________________ Warden of Oasis - Profile Vestas Shadowdancer____________________ Swashbuckler of Oasis - Profile

11-22-2006, 04:58 AM	#4
Katr General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 37	Definately not 100% but I am up around the 95% success rate. I always use it when I solo..it is the first thing I do Grouping is anothe matter..dps first then if my CA's are down and I am in the right position to use it I do. Only lvl 18 atm but this is a great AA and I get around 20cp per pickpocket..it all adds up.

11-22-2006, 02:36 PM	#5
The Adversary Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11	just macro it with plunder, it takes about a 1/4 of a second to cast & is un-noticable when used that way. plus u will be in position as well cause if plunder doesnt work either will pickpocket (depending on reuse timer) either way u will get a emote if not in the right position __________________ 70 Paladin - Chrysar - Mistmore 70 Swashbuckler - Errolyn - Mistmore Brigand - Arndre - Najena

11-23-2006, 02:44 AM	#6
Cocytus Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,908	I thought about macroing mine with plunder but I would rather see when plunder is up/down. Can't see skill downage on macros. :/

11-23-2006, 03:31 AM	#7
SmCaudata Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 356	Macro has plunder and pick pocket and then you put plunder next to it. It still takes up 2 buttons on your hotbar but only one click and you won't forget about it. __________________ ______________________________ ______________________________ Kellindril - 80 swash - Azure Skies - Antonia Bayle

11-23-2006, 03:38 AM	#8
Cocytus Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,908	I think I'll try that.

11-23-2006, 04:09 AM	#9
Katr General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 37	Sounds like a good idea. I assume plunder is a high lvl CA. Will join it up with my sneak attack

11-23-2006, 10:43 AM	#10
SmCaudata Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 356	Plunder is the high level of our back attack + agi debuff. It is a good one to have it macro'd with because it is the only attack we have that requires being behind the mob. Sneak attack can be done from any position. __________________ ______________________________ ______________________________ Kellindril - 80 swash - Azure Skies - Antonia Bayle

11-23-2006, 09:34 PM	#11
Xektor Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1	I might be wrong but I think you get an item if you are 100% succsesful. It's not that it'll always be 100%. I fail to steal coin somtimes...that's not 100% stealing. __________________ http://u.eq2wire.com/sig/show/682746120

11-28-2006, 06:48 AM	#12
liveja General Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Posts: 4,793	Xektor wrote: I might be wrong but I think you get an item if you are 100% succsesful. It's not that it'll always be 100%. I fail to steal coin somtimes...that's not 100% stealing. Hmm, that's an interesting idea, I hadn't heard anything about stealing items. So far, AFAIK, all I've gotten is coin, & I thought that was all that could be stolen. I'll have to keep an eye out, now __________________

11-29-2006, 12:10 AM	#13
Debunkt Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 163	It is only coin. You have a chance to steal or fail, if you steal then RNG probably kicks in for coin amount.

11-29-2006, 02:09 AM	#14
Dakkon_10 General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 282	I believe it is successful 100% of the time, but the mobs that are pick pocketable do not have coin on them 100% of the time. You can't steal money that isn't there, but if it is there you will have 100% chance of getting it. I don't use this ability tho, it's a waste of hotbar space. Message Edited by Dakkon_1007 on 11-28-2006 01:09 PM __________________

11-29-2006, 08:59 PM	#15
liveja General Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Posts: 4,793	Dakkon_1007 wrote: I believe it is successful 100% of the time, but the mobs that are pick pocketable do not have coin on them 100% of the time. You can't steal money that isn't there, but if it is there you will have 100% chance of getting it. I've seen the message "your attempt to steal something was unsucessful" on a mob, waited until Pickpocket refreshed, & then tried again, successfully. I don't believe it had anything to do with the mob not having any stealable cash on it the first time. Additionally, I've also seen a message to the effect of "your failed attempt at stealing has angered .....", or something like that, which clearly seems like a "failure" to me I use Pickpocket ALL the time, & have had my cash flow improved by it. Not gigantically, but IMHO it's not intended to make you rich __________________