Incompatible Cures ( AA line ) - mystic imput

EtnaTheDem · 12-02-2006, 10:03 PM

I origianlly posted it in Combat Discussion because it affects other priests as well. I hoped for some mystic imput but none was offered so I will post the link here as I find it to be serious issues.http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=118928Thanks for your time,Etna

Eepop · 12-04-2006, 08:16 PM

It definitely sounds like a bug, it definitely needs to be fixed...but I wouldnt expect much response on them from the mystics that frequent here. We've had a good bit of discussion, and the cures line is just really lacking, even assuming it wasnt bugged. As such, I doubt many will be taking them at least until there is no other choice.

EtnaTheDem · 12-05-2006, 06:56 AM

Thanks for response.My mystic is a new project but I did enter late beta testing with my fury. The main reason I was interested in cure AA is that In EoF effects seemed to play much greater role then before ( granted buffing resists with new adornments will help but if the effect kills your even though mostly beta buffed party in 4 ticks, you will need to cure fast and efficiently ). Nonetheless I knew nothing of cure line effectiveness untill I experimented with my mystic. I must say that particular form of cure line AA is weak and uncompeling atm. Farthermore, it concerns me greatly that all 3 priest cure lines are incompatible, meaning that should mystic/warden/templar take cure line of advancement, only one in the grp/raid will be able to actually cure without blocking other healer's cures.Thanks for your time,Etna

Message Edited by EtnaTheDemon on 12-04-2006 06:01 PM

Message Edited by EtnaTheDemon on 12-04-2006 06:03 PM

Ordate · 12-05-2006, 01:45 PM

I need to test this personally before I will do such as I don't bug and feedback just what I "hear". But if you have actually seen this in action please bug and feedback it. Blocking cures of others is a huge problem.

EtnaTheDem · 12-05-2006, 06:07 PM

I have both done /bug and /petition once I have noticed the issue on my mystic while grping with a warden. I have gotten GM response as well. Accordingly, its working as intended. That is the reason I did post on forums. If this is the intended design, then I believe it should be changed.Also I did research templar forum and found info about druid/templar cure incompatibility. I didnt report that, however I was hoping to start a discussion, so that the devs may see there is a big problem with cure line set up.

Secondly, I aslo hoped that mystic AA in cure line will aslo be put under revision. As I mentioned in my original post I have hard time understanding how the additional points in cures work. At lvl 34 on my mystic, one AA seems to add one HP to my ward. I was curious wheather high lvl mystics can verify it. And if thats the case I find cure line to be rather...unrewarding.Thanks for your time,Etna

Message Edited by EtnaTheDemon on 12-05-2006 05:08 AM

Message Edited by EtnaTheDemon on 12-05-2006 05:24 AM

SonnyA · 12-06-2006, 08:07 PM

EtnaTheDemon wrote:
I have both done /bug and /petition once I have noticed the issue on my mystic while grping with a warden. I have gotten GM response as well. Accordingly, its working as intended. That is the reason I did post on forums. If this is the intended design, then I believe it should be changed.Also I did research templar forum and found info about druid/templar cure incompatibility. I didnt report that, however I was hoping to start a discussion, so that the devs may see there is a big problem with cure line set up.
Secondly, I aslo hoped that mystic AA in cure line will aslo be put under revision. As I mentioned in my original post I have hard time understanding how the additional points in cures work. At lvl 34 on my mystic, one AA seems to add one HP to my ward. I was curious wheather high lvl mystics can verify it. And if thats the case I find cure line to be rather...unrewarding.

I don't think the GM is working as intended. I don't have any of the AA cures, but if it's doing what you're describing, then it's an obvious bug.The correct way to handle this is to /bug it ingame, which you have done already. Expect dev action within the next month or so.

Dragonreal · 12-07-2006, 12:29 AM

idk about with mystic but between warden adn templar there is no issue... I just now tested it and had both my arcane resist buff and the templar arcane reactive on me at the same time.

thedu · 12-07-2006, 01:40 AM

Dragonrealms wrote:idk about with mystic but between warden adn templar there is no issue... I just now tested it and had both my arcane resist buff and the templar arcane reactive on me at the same time.

Are those based off the new AP trees?

Dragonreal · 12-07-2006, 02:50 AM

yes

12-04-2006, 08:16 PM	#2
Eepop Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 704	It definitely sounds like a bug, it definitely needs to be fixed...but I wouldnt expect much response on them from the mystics that frequent here. We've had a good bit of discussion, and the cures line is just really lacking, even assuming it wasnt bugged. As such, I doubt many will be taking them at least until there is no other choice. __________________

12-05-2006, 01:45 PM	#4
Ordate Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 308	I need to test this personally before I will do such as I don't bug and feedback just what I "hear". But if you have actually seen this in action please bug and feedback it. Blocking cures of others is a huge problem. __________________

12-06-2006, 08:07 PM	#6
SonnyA Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 578	EtnaTheDemon wrote: I have both done /bug and /petition once I have noticed the issue on my mystic while grping with a warden. I have gotten GM response as well. Accordingly, its working as intended. That is the reason I did post on forums. If this is the intended design, then I believe it should be changed.Also I did research templar forum and found info about druid/templar cure incompatibility. I didnt report that, however I was hoping to start a discussion, so that the devs may see there is a big problem with cure line set up. Secondly, I aslo hoped that mystic AA in cure line will aslo be put under revision. As I mentioned in my original post I have hard time understanding how the additional points in cures work. At lvl 34 on my mystic, one AA seems to add one HP to my ward. I was curious wheather high lvl mystics can verify it. And if thats the case I find cure line to be rather...unrewarding. I don't think the GM is working as intended. I don't have any of the AA cures, but if it's doing what you're describing, then it's an obvious bug.The correct way to handle this is to /bug it ingame, which you have done already. Expect dev action within the next month or so.

12-02-2006, 10:03 PM	#1
EtnaTheDem Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4	I origianlly posted it in Combat Discussion because it affects other priests as well. I hoped for some mystic imput but none was offered so I will post the link here as I find it to be serious issues.http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=118928Thanks for your time,Etna

12-05-2006, 06:56 AM	#3
EtnaTheDem Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4	Thanks for response.My mystic is a new project but I did enter late beta testing with my fury. The main reason I was interested in cure AA is that In EoF effects seemed to play much greater role then before ( granted buffing resists with new adornments will help but if the effect kills your even though mostly beta buffed party in 4 ticks, you will need to cure fast and efficiently ). Nonetheless I knew nothing of cure line effectiveness untill I experimented with my mystic. I must say that particular form of cure line AA is weak and uncompeling atm. Farthermore, it concerns me greatly that all 3 priest cure lines are incompatible, meaning that should mystic/warden/templar take cure line of advancement, only one in the grp/raid will be able to actually cure without blocking other healer's cures.Thanks for your time,Etna Message Edited by EtnaTheDemon on 12-04-2006 06:01 PM Message Edited by EtnaTheDemon on 12-04-2006 06:03 PM

12-05-2006, 06:07 PM	#5
EtnaTheDem Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4	I have both done /bug and /petition once I have noticed the issue on my mystic while grping with a warden. I have gotten GM response as well. Accordingly, its working as intended. That is the reason I did post on forums. If this is the intended design, then I believe it should be changed.Also I did research templar forum and found info about druid/templar cure incompatibility. I didnt report that, however I was hoping to start a discussion, so that the devs may see there is a big problem with cure line set up. Secondly, I aslo hoped that mystic AA in cure line will aslo be put under revision. As I mentioned in my original post I have hard time understanding how the additional points in cures work. At lvl 34 on my mystic, one AA seems to add one HP to my ward. I was curious wheather high lvl mystics can verify it. And if thats the case I find cure line to be rather...unrewarding.Thanks for your time,Etna Message Edited by EtnaTheDemon on 12-05-2006 05:08 AM Message Edited by EtnaTheDemon on 12-05-2006 05:24 AM

12-07-2006, 12:29 AM	#7
Dragonreal General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,554	idk about with mystic but between warden adn templar there is no issue... I just now tested it and had both my arcane resist buff and the templar arcane reactive on me at the same time.

12-07-2006, 01:40 AM	#8
thedu General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 675	Dragonrealms wrote:idk about with mystic but between warden adn templar there is no issue... I just now tested it and had both my arcane resist buff and the templar arcane reactive on me at the same time. Are those based off the new AP trees?

12-07-2006, 02:50 AM	#9
Dragonreal General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,554	yes