Need DPS advice

[Yimway]

I've been trying to spec my fury to a DPS build to participate more in that role on raids, particularly on clearing trash.INT - 4/5/8/8STR - 4/4/8/8I only have about 4 aa in EoF at this point, and I'm going down the far right tree atm.I'm frustrated cause I'm not making over 600 DPS on trash mobs.  I'm doing melee with the blackscale maul, and all but one of my nukes is M1.  I keep reading of people doing 1k+ dps on trash, but I'm just not getting anywhere near it.Part of my problem is achieving INT via gear.  I'm only at about 310 INT, and I'm not seeing any way to increase it without sacrificing huge on WIS AND power.  Am I only going to boost these stats via raid drops?   I'm currently wearing a mix of eof legendary (arms, forearms, boots), Writ raid chest, animist gloves, hooloh hat, and mostly MC jewelry.Looking for advise for increasing dps via spell strategy, aa, and specific obtainable gear upgrades. My Warden has been doing better (has 15 more aa and went down CA line) dps than I've been able to, and using CA's he's still able to throw heals between nuke timers, where I'm chain casting.

[Ferunnia]

Dunno bud, I usually sit around 700+ int in a raid group, closer to 800 usually without much of a power loss. (up to about 680 int self buffed in an int setup of gear, with around 540 wis...no fabled)I can dps around 650-700 on regular heroic mobs quite easily, but I'm also fully energy specced with vortex up when I feel like putting most of my group's dps to shame. The energy line plus the int line from KoS makes a huge dps difference over not having both, or only having one. I hit for upwards of 5200 damage with Thunderbolt solo if i get lucky, that help's a ton, and if the trash mob gets dispatched it makes a big dps difference too.

[lmhotep]

Seems a bit strange that your that low on int with gear like that.

Personaly im wearing a mix of animist and relic combined with descent enought jewelry i reach 560+ selfbuffed int and 550+ selfbuffed wis.

Are you sure you casted all of your group/single target intbuffs cos that gives you arround 200 extra int (eof line could help here).

Personaly in raids when i slack in healing and go full DPS i normaly manage an average of 700DPS on single targets and 1K+ on multi targets.

Going down the right EOF lines should make a huge difference so i suggest to look at your int wich seems realy low and get on with those AA`s.

[ValheruNL]

the str line doesnt add much dmg if u dont use a sword (and melee), the eof energy line adds loads of dps since the dots do their dmg faster and have a shorter casting time, also reducing the casting times on your nukes will greatly improve dmg...

[Kop]

Your int does seem very low.  I have maybe 3 raid drops, 2 or 3 EOF items, and a number of quest items.  Really just a general mix of random stuff and I hit 540 int, 490 wis self buffed.  I also chose solro for a god, that stupid pet buff gives some int.  I really haven't had to make too much of a choice between wis and int, a good part of my gear has both on it.  I also have a set that gives me more sta/wis than int/wis that I put on when I am tanking.  I also only  have 4pts in the critical damage AA at the moment.  PvP server, had to max out stormvision first.We are doing pretty low level T7 raids at the moment, and I often get to DPS on trash mobs.  I peak at about 900 DPS, oddly enough, there is only about a 50 DPS difference for me between 3 mobs vs 1 mob (we often are missing big debuffing classes, and on a PvP server our choice is limited already).The biggest effect on my DPS has been energy vortex.  Before that I was toping out at 600 to 700.  Of course using energy vortex I can drain my entire mana pool in about a minute.  Only 1 pt from animalist, yay!  Going down the energy line is where we get a large portion of our DPS from, otherwise we just run up against recycle timers.I have been trying to come up with the perfect combination so I never have to wait for timers, but haven't made it work completely yet.  I still have to throw in a fae fyre when dead space comes up occasionally.Has anyone tried the AA that reduces the resistability on Call of Storms?  As it is CoS is just about useless for me in any raid zone, a very large portion of the bolts get resisted so I almost never use it.  I went down maxing thunderbolt, starburst, and our elemental dot, forgot the name of it.Well I went rambling on, but get that int up, just keep an eye out for gear and you shouldn't have to sacrifice too much.

[TheBu]

yes int is wher you need ot look at. you need to upgade.

 

fury gear not allways easy to find. The Crafted leather gear sucks for us. I would bet u might have alot of mastercrafted gear with no int. now the crafted jews are diffrent. . .they are nice...

 

       95int         "Ferine vim" adept3 single target

       66 int/wis  "Primal spirit adept3" GRoup buff

161 int in just with adept 3 buffs

 

 

310 INT -161=149 in your gear? 

 

 

             Mastercrafte jewelry: i think give 23 int and 23 wis

             1 neck 2 ears 2 fingers a wrist and waist ( like 7 items?)

161 = 23 x7        ps why get imbued ring with wis buff?  get the int buff.  increase in power cap during a fight will not help.

 

with my math you should be walking around with no clothing on and have more int.

 

so you reall need to look for all type of gear[tresured /legendary] to get the int.wis  combo u want

 

 

70 int in temp potion and drink buffs.

 

Just take an int potion and see the dameg of ur spells go way up...

[Cale2281]

First --  get some rares and upgrade Ferine Vim and Primal Spirit.  That will boost your INT a lot and should help.  If you only have 4 points in EOF you won't be able to get a ton of the bonuses.   In order to max out your DPS you will need to max out Swarm, Tempest, Thunderbolt, and Starnova then pick up Energy Vortex (that's 21 AA points so it might take some time).

 

Second -- quest, collect, or raid and get two earrings with some good stats.  There are several decent options in EoF and a nice one that drops in Labs. You might even go with the Awakened bloodscale/Adornment of the Prophecy combo if you don't have time or don't want to wait. Then get two treasured adornments and add +14 Int to both of them.  Like others have said, if you can't get INT through armor, look for it in jewelry.

 

Lastly -- As useful as your DPS may be on trash mobs, your buffs are better for raiding.  I wouldn't recommend that any fury sacrifice his/her primary role as a healer in order to do 100 dps on a trash mob in Labs or Lyceum.  That being said, I'd spend points in Sta line of KOS for crit heals and the left side of the EOF tree before spending points to get to vortex. 

[Owlbe]

To max out your casting dps as other suggested you should get.... -INT should be around the mid 500's probably as a minimum and should be easy to get with all the INT buffs we have (ad3 or master your int giving spells to maximize int). -auto attack on with a good weapon. Blackscale Maul is good for this as it gives you lots of time to cast in between swings. Having the STR double attack skill helps as well.-Max out the druid INT line crits of course. -Max out the disruption + focus skill after the crit skill (stormvision or stormfocus I think its called). +disruption will = less resists. -use items with + disruption items if you can. -Put 5 points into each to improve your damage spells in the Fury EoF tree (2 dots, dd, aoe dd) and get energy vortex and of course use it for max dps. Energy vortex makes a big difference. -Get masters or at the very east ad3 of all your damage spells. -Take the starfire m2 pick for your lvl 64 pick. -Get as many spell procing items as you can. Grizzlefazzles mace (if you don't want to use the maul or you root and nuke or can't auto attack for some reason), boneclasped girdle, the 1 quest earring (forgot the name), etc etc. These make a big difference in dps. -Get your items adorned that focus on adding to spell damage or wear items that add to spell damage (like sol ros diety cloak for example)I'm by for not a uber equiped raiding druid and can get the 600-700 dps on singles and 1k+ on groups as others have said. Follow these things and your should be kicking out some pretty good damage especially for a priest.  On raids I usually am on the top ten (usally 5th to 10th position) if I don't have to heal much.

Message Edited by Omegarhino on 01-24-2007 02:53 PM

Message Edited by Omegarhino on 01-24-2007 02:57 PM

[TheBu]

ooo what 1 quest earing? not mystical orb?  ( all tho i almost got the damage proc on it... i did end up getting the heal)

 

[RanaFatua]

on trash I do about 800-1k dps if my mages are not taking aggro lol. My int and wis are about 600int 540wis I have a pretty good size power pull for me about 7.6k I went int line put 8 into nuke crits I got the very last ability in the Fury tree Energy line Energy Vortex OMG is that a god send every time I use that I get about 1.2k+ its so sweet. dont start out with your big nukes start out with your damge over time nukes then do your big nukes. you dps will go up. oo proc gear is also very nice for high dps if you did claymore and got fizzle mitsy protect thats really nice. I think my highest trash dps was 2.6k+ gotta love the group of 8 in DT =D

[Goozman]

My current aa setup is as follows: (excluding non-dps oriented aa's)

KOS:

INT 4 4 8 4 1

EOF

Killing Swarm:5; Tempest:5; Thunderbolt:5; Starnova:5; Energy Vortex:1

Currently raiding EoF I am doing pretty well; if you are really interested, you can PM me and I can show you some parses.

[Yarginis]

Even running a wisdom oriented setup, you should really still push 450+ int easily. Here are screen shots of my character stats (solo) and AA build. In a semi-decent group I've parsed over 1300 single target on a named in Labs with a very similar setup to this. (no more dps based, just didn't have all my AA's yet) The only thing not current in those pics is that I have my last 3 AA's now. (1 More in Fae Pyre, Urchin, and Animal Form) As you can see, this is far from a full-offensive setup. And you'll notice the only 2 pieces of fabled I'm wearing are my MoA, and the fabled Druid hat from Labs. Everything else is legendary. Now granted I am almost fully mastered, and am fully adorned. But you don't need to raid for either of those. And even going down from master to adept 3 will likely lower your overall stats by 10% or less maximum. A Fury spec'd for full DPS could easily put up more impressive parses than me. (I've heard 1700 on the same guy I got 1300 on with a good group and full dps spec) I just do a combination of group/raiding, with the majority being solo healer for full groups, so I'm laid out to allow me to handle larger damage spikes & endurance at the expense of my max dps. (I run a hot bar with flowing thought gear on it to put on when endurance is needed, combined with my animal form to regain power) But back to your original topic, 450-500 int is quite obtainable by a more defensively spec'd Fury, while 600+ is very do-able for a Fury with an offensive focus. And thats without, or with very little raid gear.

[Yimway]

I picked up some more int, and self buff at 480int 540wis. I'm still not down to vortex, as I raid 90% of my playtime, leaving little time for questing. I also picked up a 1h hammer in labs that procs spell cast time reductions. All nukes are m1. I am autoattacking, using CoS, etc. I'm still only posting about 450 tops dps on trash encounters in labs.  And I'm throwing almost no heals to do that. So I still don't see where these 1k numbers are comming from. However my warden is still beating me out on dps, didn't have to buy 1 master nuke, and is beating me in heals by a factor of 4. I feel like I'm not contributing to my guild on my fury and considering abandoning it.  My heals aren't needed for trash mobs (which is a large part of the time in a raid zone), and I'm not contributing as meaningfully to dps as I would expect.

[Cale2281]

Are you getting resisted a lot?  If so find + to disruption (belt adornment, INT AA Line).

 Most furies with 500 Int could do 400 dps with tempest and swarm alone.  It could be casting order (make sure you cast both dots before you cast either nuke) but we only have four real dmg spells that you can cast on every pull.   Another thing.. on raids most furies are in a caster group with a troub so that will add some ok dps. 

Warden and Fury aren't that different and similarly geared your Fury should be blowing the warden away on dps when you try.  I'm confused as to how someone playing both characters could play one so much better than the other.   Also, there is no reason at all that your warden should be outhealing your fury at all much less by a factor of 4.   If you have any other questions, pm me on nektulos.cale

[Yimway]

Warden out heals cause the fury is spending the majority of her time casting nukes. The warden gets insta-cast CA's instead of nukes and can keep them all grey with plenty of time to cast heals between refreshes.  He gets 75% chance for crit on both nukes and auto-attack, melee stat increases, etc. I'm casting aoe fire dot (forge of ro type), tempest, swarm, single target nuke, encounter nuke, strike of storms, generally in that order. I have pretty decent gear, lots of animist and relic drops, some eof jewelry, mark, etc.  I'm not sure what my disruption is, but I can think of atleast 20 bonus I'm getting from gear.  I don't get the benefit of a troub, as we've never found one that stuck with the game/class. I invision the fury will get some jump when I get vortex, but I not sold that would double it.

[DarrkElf]

I'm curious that you've decided on the STR line.  Personlly I've gone with the INT and WIS lines, plus the Energy Fury line. 

The WIS line helps to give you more power.  I don't really bother with melee because the power of my spells (on fast reuse timers thanks to maxing AA Energy line) far out does any melee damage I could inflict.

If you put less focus into melee then your weapon choices can focus on stats (and power regen).  For melee often the high damage weapons are 2-handers, but if instead you focus on stats you're usually better off with a 1-hander and shield to give higher stats and a bit of a MIT boost.

There's some nice jewelry around (particularly for signature quest rewards) that have good INT and power regen stats.

I tend to play my Fury simular to a mage when I'm solo - so rely on nuking everything as quickly as possible and almost completely discard melee.

I've upgraded all offensive spells and self/group buffs to Master or Adept 3's.  I always cast all buffs on myself including the shapeshifting ones for the extra stats.  If you don't like the apperance (tree or lion) you can always change options to hide illusions.

The key that I've found to soloing with the Fury is to get the fight over with as quickly as possible.  If you are using the end of line Energy spell then your heals are 50% less effective, but your offense spells are 50% stronger.  When you take on a mob, have the strongest targeted and pull with a DoT, then cast your Energy spell to increase damage, Ring of Fire, Target Encounter AE, Single Target Nuke, DoTs, and repeat.