01/07/2005 Nerf.

BlackFlowe · 01-07-2005, 09:20 PM

First you take away Arch Heal and put it on the same timer as Restoration. That was my back up, keeping the caster alive.Now you take away BOV and put it on the same timer as Supplicant's Prayer and the even more gimpy level 40 CI.What's next? Why not go ahead and ruin this class even more, make it TOTALLY useless. I can't express how angry I am having logged on after this "patch" to discover that two of the spells I depend on the very most to do my JOB as a healer are on the same timer.Thanks for nothing.

Xran · 01-07-2005, 09:25 PM

Known bug and will be fixed in a couple day's time.

BlackFlowe · 01-07-2005, 10:05 PM

/quoteKnown bug and will be fixed in a couple day's time./end quoteIt better had be =)

Mong · 01-07-2005, 10:15 PM

Dev Tracker= Good SMILEY

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/tracker?role=Dev"In addition to the issues I posted a little while ago, many players are reporting that spells and arts that were usable independently of one another before today are now using the same recast timer. I wanted to take a moment to clarify this situation.The Training options are intended to act as a higher-powered replacement for abilities you are already using. Training is not meant to give you an additional ability; rather, it is meant to act as a significant upgrade to an existing spell or combat art. Since these are free upgrades that are much more potent than the Apprentice I spells you ordinarily receive, they need to share a recast timer in order to maintain game balance.However, a number of other spells and arts that had been separate are now tied together as well. For instance, certain heal or damage-over-time spells that were independent of one another now prevent similar spells from being used. We are working at this very moment to reverse this change so that the affected spells and arts will work the same way they did before this update.To sum up: Training options are intended to replace existing abilities and thus will share the same timer. The recast timers of standard spells and arts that were affected by today's update will be reverted to function the way they have since launch.Unfortunately, this change will require some additional testing, so we will probably not be able to apply it along with the fixes for the four key issues mentioned in my first post. We will push the spell linking change to the live servers just as soon as we can, but it will not happen until Friday or Saturday.We're sorry for the confusion this has caused, and I hope this post clarifies how the Training and recast timers are meant to work."

SenorPhrog · 01-08-2005, 12:31 AM

Mongor wrote:
Dev Tracker= Good

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/tracker?role=Dev

Agreed.

Chomsk · 01-08-2005, 12:54 AM

My Caluria's SoV and adept3 BoV are on the same timer, seems fair to me. The SP is not on this timer. The group reactive are now on the same timer, but really whos got the mana to stack those for long? And anyway why would you chain heal arch healing and restoration anyway? As a back up healer? Maybe but not necessary with Amelioration line. Doesn't really sound like constructive criticism to me.

MilkToa · 01-08-2005, 01:21 AM

Chomsky1 wrote:
My Caluria's SoV and adept3 BoV are on the same timer, seems fair to me. The SP is not on this timer. The group reactive are now on the same timer, but really whos got the mana to stack those for long? And anyway why would you chain heal arch healing and restoration anyway? As a back up healer? Maybe but not necessary with Amelioration line. Doesn't really sound like constructive criticism to me.

Pardon me but it's presumptuous to tell other people how to heal. According to the notes from yesterday the only heals that should be on the same timer are the specialize training heals and their analogous regular heals, anything else is supposedly a bug. Hopefully, these problems will be fixed in a few days. If someone wants to chain cast instant heals they should have the right to do so, even though it's not how yor or I heal. If it's not fixed then people have a right to scream nerf.

Lifewast · 01-08-2005, 04:12 AM

Chomsky1 wrote:My Caluria's SoV and adept3 BoV are on the same timer, seems fair to me. The SP is not on this timer. The group reactive are now on the same timer, but really whos got the mana to stack those for long? And anyway why would you chain heal arch healing and restoration anyway? As a back up healer? Maybe but not necessary with Amelioration line. Doesn't really sound like constructive criticism to me.

Todays mini patch just put SP, Caulrias and BOV all on the same timer, effectively cutting healing power in half per 8 second timer block. So Caulrias was useful for one day........now its useless unless you are using 2 templars per group.

01-07-2005, 09:20 PM	#1
BlackFlowe General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 90	First you take away Arch Heal and put it on the same timer as Restoration. That was my back up, keeping the caster alive.Now you take away BOV and put it on the same timer as Supplicant's Prayer and the even more gimpy level 40 CI.What's next? Why not go ahead and ruin this class even more, make it TOTALLY useless. I can't express how angry I am having logged on after this "patch" to discover that two of the spells I depend on the very most to do my JOB as a healer are on the same timer.Thanks for nothing. __________________

01-07-2005, 09:25 PM	#2
Xran Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 374	Known bug and will be fixed in a couple day's time. __________________ --------------------------------------------------- Xelani - Templar of the 42nd Season in Blackburrow Troubadour of the 27th Season

01-07-2005, 10:05 PM	#3
BlackFlowe General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 90	/quoteKnown bug and will be fixed in a couple day's time./end quoteIt better had be =) __________________

01-07-2005, 10:15 PM	#4
Mong Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4	Dev Tracker= Good http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/tracker?role=Dev"In addition to the issues I posted a little while ago, many players are reporting that spells and arts that were usable independently of one another before today are now using the same recast timer. I wanted to take a moment to clarify this situation.The Training options are intended to act as a higher-powered replacement for abilities you are already using. Training is not meant to give you an additional ability; rather, it is meant to act as a significant upgrade to an existing spell or combat art. Since these are free upgrades that are much more potent than the Apprentice I spells you ordinarily receive, they need to share a recast timer in order to maintain game balance.However, a number of other spells and arts that had been separate are now tied together as well. For instance, certain heal or damage-over-time spells that were independent of one another now prevent similar spells from being used. We are working at this very moment to reverse this change so that the affected spells and arts will work the same way they did before this update.To sum up: Training options are intended to replace existing abilities and thus will share the same timer. The recast timers of standard spells and arts that were affected by today's update will be reverted to function the way they have since launch.Unfortunately, this change will require some additional testing, so we will probably not be able to apply it along with the fixes for the four key issues mentioned in my first post. We will push the spell linking change to the live servers just as soon as we can, but it will not happen until Friday or Saturday.We're sorry for the confusion this has caused, and I hope this post clarifies how the Training and recast timers are meant to work." __________________ Mongor Mountainshaper Templar of Brell "Don't disturb the healer while he's drinking"

01-08-2005, 12:31 AM	#5
SenorPhrog Ten Ton Hammer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Fourth Wall Posts: 1,041	Mongor wrote: Dev Tracker= Good http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/tracker?role=Dev Agreed. __________________

01-08-2005, 12:54 AM	#6
Chomsk Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	My Caluria's SoV and adept3 BoV are on the same timer, seems fair to me. The SP is not on this timer. The group reactive are now on the same timer, but really whos got the mana to stack those for long? And anyway why would you chain heal arch healing and restoration anyway? As a back up healer? Maybe but not necessary with Amelioration line. Doesn't really sound like constructive criticism to me.

01-08-2005, 01:21 AM	#7
MilkToa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 490	Chomsky1 wrote: My Caluria's SoV and adept3 BoV are on the same timer, seems fair to me. The SP is not on this timer. The group reactive are now on the same timer, but really whos got the mana to stack those for long? And anyway why would you chain heal arch healing and restoration anyway? As a back up healer? Maybe but not necessary with Amelioration line. Doesn't really sound like constructive criticism to me. Pardon me but it's presumptuous to tell other people how to heal. According to the notes from yesterday the only heals that should be on the same timer are the specialize training heals and their analogous regular heals, anything else is supposedly a bug. Hopefully, these problems will be fixed in a few days. If someone wants to chain cast instant heals they should have the right to do so, even though it's not how yor or I heal. If it's not fixed then people have a right to scream nerf.

01-08-2005, 04:12 AM	#8
Lifewast Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 40	Chomsky1 wrote:My Caluria's SoV and adept3 BoV are on the same timer, seems fair to me. The SP is not on this timer. The group reactive are now on the same timer, but really whos got the mana to stack those for long? And anyway why would you chain heal arch healing and restoration anyway? As a back up healer? Maybe but not necessary with Amelioration line. Doesn't really sound like constructive criticism to me. Todays mini patch just put SP, Caulrias and BOV all on the same timer, effectively cutting healing power in half per 8 second timer block. So Caulrias was useful for one day........now its useless unless you are using 2 templars per group.