Question about low level spells vs. higher level spells...

Thr · 01-02-2005, 08:26 PM

Sorry if this has been asked before (the search engine is rather busy atm).

When you receive spells like Admonishing Smite is the lower level spell Smite still useful?

Is it worth upgrading the Smite spell (prayer) once you receive the Admonishing Smite spell? Or just stick with the newer spells?

From what I can tell it seems like you just "throw away" the old spells, which is fine but I was hoping that upgrading spells would make them more useful.

Thanks in advance for any help/info,

Thrin

Xran · 01-02-2005, 11:30 PM

The easiest thing is to try it out yourself. SMILEY

Different levels have varying results. Check the power usage of Smite and ASmite and see how much dmg different. Then choose whether it is worth it to cast. SMILEY

Thr · 01-03-2005, 01:24 AM

Xrande wrote:
The easiest thing is to try it out yourself.

Different levels have varying results. Check the power usage of Smite and ASmite and see how much dmg different. Then choose whether it is worth it to cast.

Thanks. I have tried. Although, I don't have the higher Adept versions of Smite for comparison. At this point it appears that the lower level spells aren't worth it. I was curious if a higher level Templar had them both at the same level (i.e. Adept III or higher) and was willing to let me know.

Thrin

Xran · 01-03-2005, 03:22 AM

certain spells like Smite vs A.Smite - ASmite's definitely better. Since smite is wayyy old.But we all know that spells like BoV and SP - BoV has higher efficiency at least until SP takesover around level 33+

DeythCombi · 01-03-2005, 04:45 AM

Thrin wrote:

Sorry if this has been asked before (the search engine is rather busy atm).

When you receive spells like Admonishing Smite is the lower level spell Smite still useful?

Is it worth upgrading the Smite spell (prayer) once you receive the Admonishing Smite spell? Or just stick with the newer spells?

From what I can tell it seems like you just "throw away" the old spells, which is fine but I was hoping that upgrading spells would make them more useful.

Thanks in advance for any help/info,

Thrin

In my experience the general rule of thumb is that old spells are almost always better in effect and efficiency than new ones for quite a few levels unless you observe otherwise.

Thr · 01-03-2005, 12:23 PM

Thanks folks. :smileyvery-happy:

So it seems that a fair number of spells are good for the "lifetime" of the character and others are not, such as Smite. At least for Templars.

Thrin

Zabumt · 01-03-2005, 01:23 PM

Kind of correct. When you get a new spell you're basically a student of that spell until you max out the associated skill with that spell and until you upgrade the spell. In time the newer spell becomes more useful than the older one (given that they are both of the same level ... say app3). With smites you'll notice a pretty big damage difference when the old spell goes gray and the new spell is yellow/white/blue and you have both spells upgraded to the same level. Same with most other spells.

Twinbabas · 01-03-2005, 09:37 PM

Having the older spells out is sometimes a good thing.

The other day I was soloing some Grey's in RoV (finishing up old quests) and I was fighting bats grouped in pairs. I found that when I used the lower level smite as the trigger for HO, it enabled me to have enough power during the fight so I could finish without running out of power. (I was chain nuking and using Celestial Strike to complete the HO)

If I used the higher level smite to trigger the HO, I found I ran out of power earlier.

01-02-2005, 11:30 PM	#2
Xran Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 374	The easiest thing is to try it out yourself. Different levels have varying results. Check the power usage of Smite and ASmite and see how much dmg different. Then choose whether it is worth it to cast. __________________ --------------------------------------------------- Xelani - Templar of the 42nd Season in Blackburrow Troubadour of the 27th Season

01-03-2005, 01:24 AM	#3
Thr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Xrande wrote: The easiest thing is to try it out yourself. Different levels have varying results. Check the power usage of Smite and ASmite and see how much dmg different. Then choose whether it is worth it to cast. Thanks. I have tried. Although, I don't have the higher Adept versions of Smite for comparison. At this point it appears that the lower level spells aren't worth it. I was curious if a higher level Templar had them both at the same level (i.e. Adept III or higher) and was willing to let me know. Thrin

01-03-2005, 03:22 AM	#4
Xran Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 374	certain spells like Smite vs A.Smite - ASmite's definitely better. Since smite is wayyy old.But we all know that spells like BoV and SP - BoV has higher efficiency at least until SP takesover around level 33+ __________________ --------------------------------------------------- Xelani - Templar of the 42nd Season in Blackburrow Troubadour of the 27th Season

01-03-2005, 04:45 AM	#5
DeythCombi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 137	Thrin wrote: Sorry if this has been asked before (the search engine is rather busy atm). When you receive spells like Admonishing Smite is the lower level spell Smite still useful? Is it worth upgrading the Smite spell (prayer) once you receive the Admonishing Smite spell? Or just stick with the newer spells? From what I can tell it seems like you just "throw away" the old spells, which is fine but I was hoping that upgrading spells would make them more useful. Thanks in advance for any help/info, Thrin In my experience the general rule of thumb is that old spells are almost always better in effect and efficiency than new ones for quite a few levels unless you observe otherwise. __________________

01-03-2005, 01:23 PM	#7
Zabumt Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 489	Kind of correct. When you get a new spell you're basically a student of that spell until you max out the associated skill with that spell and until you upgrade the spell. In time the newer spell becomes more useful than the older one (given that they are both of the same level ... say app3). With smites you'll notice a pretty big damage difference when the old spell goes gray and the new spell is yellow/white/blue and you have both spells upgraded to the same level. Same with most other spells. __________________ Halthar 70 Dwarf Templar - Unrest Zabumtik 60 Gnome Wizard - Unrest

01-02-2005, 08:26 PM	#1
Thr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Sorry if this has been asked before (the search engine is rather busy atm). When you receive spells like Admonishing Smite is the lower level spell Smite still useful? Is it worth upgrading the Smite spell (prayer) once you receive the Admonishing Smite spell? Or just stick with the newer spells? From what I can tell it seems like you just "throw away" the old spells, which is fine but I was hoping that upgrading spells would make them more useful. Thanks in advance for any help/info, Thrin

01-03-2005, 12:23 PM	#6
Thr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Thanks folks. :smileyvery-happy: So it seems that a fair number of spells are good for the "lifetime" of the character and others are not, such as Smite. At least for Templars. Thrin

01-03-2005, 09:37 PM	#8
Twinbabas Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	Having the older spells out is sometimes a good thing. The other day I was soloing some Grey's in RoV (finishing up old quests) and I was fighting bats grouped in pairs. I found that when I used the lower level smite as the trigger for HO, it enabled me to have enough power during the fight so I could finish without running out of power. (I was chain nuking and using Celestial Strike to complete the HO) If I used the higher level smite to trigger the HO, I found I ran out of power earlier.