Charm is nerfed 500%

JackAll · 02-26-2006, 04:06 PM

A startfury visionary charmed with m1 beguile now nukes for 500

Its a sad day indeed for coercers.

Nuhus · 02-26-2006, 04:17 PM

Edit: I tested it out on a mob that nuked 1k to 1500 previously with beguile M1, still does.. maybe the pet got the nerf.

Message Edited by Nuhus on 02-26-200606:58 AM

JackAll · 02-26-2006, 05:01 PM

I tried dominate adept3 and that was hitting for the same as beguile m1 or maybe a little bit less.

I did the test with a app1 befriend also and that hit for a lot less than the others.

I have a feeling that the master version of charm has been nerfed down to only being a tiny bit better than adept3.

Nuhus · 02-26-2006, 05:17 PM

Well, I tried both on the mob that normally hit 1 k to 1500 with beguile M1, with dominate adept III it hit for meh, 700 to 1200 or so...

Not sure how much the pet your talking about used to nuke for, but 500 would be a bit of a drop if it nuked high considering my level is 48, and my pets nuking for more (I think it's a warlock pet) seems like it has something to do with pet abilities possibly, I'll try more see what I find..

Trying to think of the big nukers off of the top of my head...

Raidi Sovin'faile · 02-26-2006, 05:38 PM

NPCs are loaded with random AI scripts. This means which spells they are loaded with, and what order they use em in will not always be the same.

In my experience, every single priest NPC I've charmed has a direct nuke and at least one DoT. And in my experience, if the nukes are around 1.5-2k, then the dots are around 400-500 per tick.

Me thinks you just saw the visionary dotting instead of nuking. I've had some priests that used two dot lines (saw two seperate ticks of damage on offset times.. like 1s: 300, 2s: nothing, 3s: 500, 4s: nothing, 5s: nothing, 6s: nothing, 7s: 300, etc).

Turn on "pet damage" in your chat window and look at the names of the spells he casts.

I can tell you from my own personal experience this evening (as of like 2 hours ago), my Master 1 Beguile had a Fury pet nuking for 3600, and dotting for 400. I like furies. :smileywink:

Message Edited by Raidi Sovin'faile on 02-26-200606:38 AM

JackAll · 02-26-2006, 06:05 PM

I hope to god your right but i didnt just test it with 1 mob or in 1 zone.

It might be my server though. Splitpaw is complet garbage.

zit · 02-27-2006, 04:25 PM

our coercer just had a wizard pet charmed that casted ice comet for 5k+.

so if charm really got nerfed 500% it would have nuked for ... um ... 20k+ before ?

JackAll · 02-27-2006, 07:50 PM

It would seem I had a long streak of ae casting pets.

I still havnt seen a good caster pet but I did find a healer that nuked for 1500-2k

Argan · 03-01-2006, 10:46 AM

charm is pretty awesome, dont see how it is nerfed, except if you mean compared to beta. I've had quite a few pets that are doing 400dps per fight, or just charm a fury pet 4tw, they nuke and heal np np

02-26-2006, 04:17 PM	#2
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	Edit: I tested it out on a mob that nuked 1k to 1500 previously with beguile M1, still does.. maybe the pet got the nerf. Message Edited by Nuhus on 02-26-200606:58 AM __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

02-26-2006, 05:17 PM	#4
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	Well, I tried both on the mob that normally hit 1 k to 1500 with beguile M1, with dominate adept III it hit for meh, 700 to 1200 or so... Not sure how much the pet your talking about used to nuke for, but 500 would be a bit of a drop if it nuked high considering my level is 48, and my pets nuking for more (I think it's a warlock pet) seems like it has something to do with pet abilities possibly, I'll try more see what I find.. Trying to think of the big nukers off of the top of my head... __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

03-01-2006, 10:46 AM	#9
Argan Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 47	charm is pretty awesome, dont see how it is nerfed, except if you mean compared to beta. I've had quite a few pets that are doing 400dps per fight, or just charm a fury pet 4tw, they nuke and heal np np __________________

02-26-2006, 04:06 PM	#1
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	A startfury visionary charmed with m1 beguile now nukes for 500 Its a sad day indeed for coercers.

02-26-2006, 05:01 PM	#3
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	I tried dominate adept3 and that was hitting for the same as beguile m1 or maybe a little bit less. I did the test with a app1 befriend also and that hit for a lot less than the others. I have a feeling that the master version of charm has been nerfed down to only being a tiny bit better than adept3.

02-26-2006, 05:38 PM	#5
Raidi Sovin'faile Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,320	NPCs are loaded with random AI scripts. This means which spells they are loaded with, and what order they use em in will not always be the same. In my experience, every single priest NPC I've charmed has a direct nuke and at least one DoT. And in my experience, if the nukes are around 1.5-2k, then the dots are around 400-500 per tick. Me thinks you just saw the visionary dotting instead of nuking. I've had some priests that used two dot lines (saw two seperate ticks of damage on offset times.. like 1s: 300, 2s: nothing, 3s: 500, 4s: nothing, 5s: nothing, 6s: nothing, 7s: 300, etc). Turn on "pet damage" in your chat window and look at the names of the spells he casts. I can tell you from my own personal experience this evening (as of like 2 hours ago), my Master 1 Beguile had a Fury pet nuking for 3600, and dotting for 400. I like furies. :smileywink: Message Edited by Raidi Sovin'faile on 02-26-200606:38 AM

02-26-2006, 06:05 PM	#6
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	I hope to god your right but i didnt just test it with 1 mob or in 1 zone. It might be my server though. Splitpaw is complet garbage.

02-27-2006, 04:25 PM	#7
zit General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 573	our coercer just had a wizard pet charmed that casted ice comet for 5k+. so if charm really got nerfed 500% it would have nuked for ... um ... 20k+ before ?

02-27-2006, 07:50 PM	#8
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	It would seem I had a long streak of ae casting pets. I still havnt seen a good caster pet but I did find a healer that nuked for 1500-2k