Ok, Someone better fess up...

Usermaat · 11-04-2005, 08:33 PM

Who went and told the devs we still had a useful root?

BAH!!

Signal9 · 11-04-2005, 08:53 PM

Yeah. Looks like I picked the right day to retire my Coercer.

Good job, Sony. I was spending more time online than was good for me anyways...

Nuhus · 11-05-2005, 04:44 AM

What root are you talking about in particular?

Karde Shar · 11-05-2005, 09:21 PM

errrr.... any of them?

Nuhus · 11-06-2005, 12:00 AM

Karde Sharke wrote:
errrr.... any of them?

Mine works fine.

Zelyi · 11-06-2005, 12:25 AM

Wonderfull /sigh there went soloing again.

Nuhus · 11-06-2005, 01:14 AM

Zelyina wrote:Wonderfull /sigh there went soloing again.

I solo just fine...

Petgroup · 11-06-2005, 02:36 AM

Nuhus wrote:

Zelyina wrote:
Wonderfull /sigh there went soloing again.

I solo just fine...

Can you give me a 1 line witty remark also please ?

The root spells are being changed on test, so when you say your root works fine, its being changed.

After 4500+ posts, you would think someone would read the test update notes.

Nuhus · 11-06-2005, 04:58 AM

nikecmh42 wrote:
Can you give me a 1 line witty remark also please ?

The root spells are being changed on test, so when you say your root works fine, its being changed.

After 4500+ posts, you would think someone would read the test update notes.

Thank you for being more specific. Well, if it has been changed on test. I am not playing on test. Therefore it seems fine to me at the moment, spells on test often change before live, I assure you if I have any issue with it when it goes live, I will give my feedback on the matter. Hopefully you see where I am coming from, I do have a test character, once in a great while I will go in there to check things out, but very rarely. And in my opinion, that was not a witty remark, just a statement, no one had mentioned on this topic that it was about the current root spell on test, ok? I do read the test update notes, but you never know exactly how the changes will affect you until you experience it yourself. Just to add... Coercer changes: - The Coerce lines now last longer and have fewer chances to break. - Spell Lash now targets an encounter. - Recklessness had its DPS amount increased. - Unnerving Stare now drains more power. - Withering Silence now drains more power. - Ego Strike now has a small chance of breaking when damage is received after the root is applied. - Forced Hesitation now makes resistance checks less often, but has a small chance to break when taking damage. - Terrible Awe will no longer prevent its targets from being hit by other AoE effects. Its duration has been reduced. - Sybyllant now has a faster cast time, no longer requires power cost over time, and will trigger up to 3 times at 100% rate. - Spell Lash now has a faster cast time, costs less power, and can trigger up to 3 times at 100% rate. - Despotic Mind upgrades now do damage at the intended rate. Enchanter changes: - Charm now lasts longer and has fewer chances to break. - Daunting Gaze now drains more power. - Overwhelming Silence now drains more power. - Veil of the Unseen now prevents indirect area of effects. - Ego Shock now has a small chance of breaking when damage is received after the root is applied. - Binding Light now makes resistance checks less often, but has a small chance to break when taking damage. Is that what you are talking about?

And also, what are you going by to know those changes are bad?

Fixed.. . Really didn't mean it to sound that way.

Message Edited by Nuhus on 11-06-2005 05:43 AM

Petgroup · 11-06-2005, 07:46 AM

= Root spells will break more often. I have a test character on Najena, don't we all ? :smileytongue:

Nuhus · 11-06-2005, 08:46 AM

Well, looking overall... If charm does get as reliable as it seems in the update on test, if roots do break more that should make up for it. Of course we will not see though until it makes it live, I'm not worried about it myself.

Dystr · 11-06-2005, 11:38 AM

my god nolus are you just being purposefully obtuse?

Nuhus · 11-06-2005, 12:19 PM

Dystrax wrote:my god nolus are you just being purposefully obtuse?

No, not at all. Someone starts a topic like this with no details about the issue they have. What else am I to do but ask questions? If you are referring to this statement " Well, looking overall... If charm does get as reliable as it seems in the update on test, if roots do break more that should make up for it. Of course we will not see though until it makes it live, I'm not worried about it myself." Simply pointing out other things may balance out IF roots break more. Sure, whatever... Obtuse....

Message Edited by Nuhus on 11-06-2005 02:44 AM

Dystr · 11-06-2005, 12:49 PM

pretty much the only thing chanters have been talking about since wednesday is the nerf to our root. you are clearly a VERY active poster. i was sincerely curious whether you genuinely did not know what was going on, or just passive-agressively trying to get the OP to be more descriptive. from the posts that followed, it seems to me that its the latter, i.e. saying what you were trying to do was get someone to tell you what the issue was....when you didnt ask what the issue was...you just asked what root in particular, and then proceeded to be passive-agressively and purposefully obtuse (imo).

Message Edited by Dystrax on 11-05-2005 11:52 PM

Nuhus · 11-06-2005, 01:08 PM

I thought it was about the current form of the spell. Simply that. My apologies... I did not mean it to seem that way.

Message Edited by Nuhus on 11-06-2005 03:46 AM

JackAll · 11-06-2005, 04:28 PM

Well...

I have said that our root is a too good as it is. And I still think it needs a tweek.

But when SOE says that there will be a small chage to brake on damage I cant help but look back at the ressistance patch:

- It is now slightly harder to land spells and combat arts on orange con mobs.

Yeah right!

I guess "a small chance to brake on damage" what mezz have.

Regards,

JackAll

Tehom · 11-06-2005, 11:56 PM

Yeah, the dreaded slightly term is rapidly approaching the status of bad joke. I understand they hope people won't make mountains out of molehills by reading too much into patch notes, but it really wrecks their credibility when major changes are passed off as minor. Having something like a 600% increase in the rate in which something happens shouldn't be classified as 'slightly'.

Nuhus · 11-07-2005, 12:20 AM

nikecmh42 wrote:
I have a test character on Najena, don't we all ? :smileytongue:

Yes, that is the one thing you cannot avoid in an MMO. lol

Message Edited by Nuhus on 11-06-2005 02:21 PM

xxalan · 11-07-2005, 08:06 AM

Usermaatre wrote:

Who went and told the devs we still had a useful root?

BAH!!

IT WAS MEEEEEE!!!!!

11-04-2005, 08:33 PM	#1
Usermaat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 51	Who went and told the devs we still had a useful root? BAH!! __________________ Usermaatre Setepenre L60 Coercer Kithicor--Active again for at least 1 month

11-04-2005, 08:53 PM	#2
Signal9 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 583	Yeah. Looks like I picked the right day to retire my Coercer. Good job, Sony. I was spending more time online than was good for me anyways... __________________

11-05-2005, 04:44 AM	#3
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	What root are you talking about in particular? __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

11-06-2005, 12:00 AM	#5
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	Karde Sharke wrote: errrr.... any of them? Mine works fine. __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

11-06-2005, 01:14 AM	#7
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	Zelyina wrote:Wonderfull /sigh there went soloing again. I solo just fine... __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

11-05-2005, 09:21 PM	#4
Karde Shar Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 108	errrr.... any of them?

11-06-2005, 12:25 AM	#6
Zelyi Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 26	Wonderfull /sigh there went soloing again.

11-06-2005, 02:36 AM	#8
Petgroup Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 309	Nuhus wrote: Zelyina wrote: Wonderfull /sigh there went soloing again. I solo just fine... Can you give me a 1 line witty remark also please ? The root spells are being changed on test, so when you say your root works fine, its being changed. After 4500+ posts, you would think someone would read the test update notes. __________________

11-06-2005, 04:58 AM	#9
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	nikecmh42 wrote: Can you give me a 1 line witty remark also please ? The root spells are being changed on test, so when you say your root works fine, its being changed. After 4500+ posts, you would think someone would read the test update notes. Thank you for being more specific. Well, if it has been changed on test. I am not playing on test. Therefore it seems fine to me at the moment, spells on test often change before live, I assure you if I have any issue with it when it goes live, I will give my feedback on the matter. Hopefully you see where I am coming from, I do have a test character, once in a great while I will go in there to check things out, but very rarely. And in my opinion, that was not a witty remark, just a statement, no one had mentioned on this topic that it was about the current root spell on test, ok? I do read the test update notes, but you never know exactly how the changes will affect you until you experience it yourself. Just to add... Coercer changes: - The Coerce lines now last longer and have fewer chances to break. - Spell Lash now targets an encounter. - Recklessness had its DPS amount increased. - Unnerving Stare now drains more power. - Withering Silence now drains more power. - Ego Strike now has a small chance of breaking when damage is received after the root is applied. - Forced Hesitation now makes resistance checks less often, but has a small chance to break when taking damage. - Terrible Awe will no longer prevent its targets from being hit by other AoE effects. Its duration has been reduced. - Sybyllant now has a faster cast time, no longer requires power cost over time, and will trigger up to 3 times at 100% rate. - Spell Lash now has a faster cast time, costs less power, and can trigger up to 3 times at 100% rate. - Despotic Mind upgrades now do damage at the intended rate. Enchanter changes: - Charm now lasts longer and has fewer chances to break. - Daunting Gaze now drains more power. - Overwhelming Silence now drains more power. - Veil of the Unseen now prevents indirect area of effects. - Ego Shock now has a small chance of breaking when damage is received after the root is applied. - Binding Light now makes resistance checks less often, but has a small chance to break when taking damage. Is that what you are talking about? And also, what are you going by to know those changes are bad? Fixed.. . Really didn't mean it to sound that way. Message Edited by Nuhus on 11-06-2005 05:43 AM __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

11-06-2005, 07:46 AM	#10
Petgroup Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 309	= Root spells will break more often. I have a test character on Najena, don't we all ? :smileytongue: __________________

11-06-2005, 08:46 AM	#11
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	Well, looking overall... If charm does get as reliable as it seems in the update on test, if roots do break more that should make up for it. Of course we will not see though until it makes it live, I'm not worried about it myself. __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

11-06-2005, 11:38 AM	#12
Dystr General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 339	my god nolus are you just being purposefully obtuse? __________________ ------------------------------------------- "The poison of which weaker natures perish strengthens the strong -- nor do they call it poison." --Nietzsche Dystrax Dysenchanted - 60 Coercer The Tribunal - Butcherblock Could I have a more appropriate last name?

11-06-2005, 12:19 PM	#13
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	Dystrax wrote:my god nolus are you just being purposefully obtuse? No, not at all. Someone starts a topic like this with no details about the issue they have. What else am I to do but ask questions? If you are referring to this statement " Well, looking overall... If charm does get as reliable as it seems in the update on test, if roots do break more that should make up for it. Of course we will not see though until it makes it live, I'm not worried about it myself." Simply pointing out other things may balance out IF roots break more. Sure, whatever... Obtuse.... Message Edited by Nuhus on 11-06-2005 02:44 AM __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

11-06-2005, 12:49 PM	#14
Dystr General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 339	pretty much the only thing chanters have been talking about since wednesday is the nerf to our root. you are clearly a VERY active poster. i was sincerely curious whether you genuinely did not know what was going on, or just passive-agressively trying to get the OP to be more descriptive. from the posts that followed, it seems to me that its the latter, i.e. saying what you were trying to do was get someone to tell you what the issue was....when you didnt ask what the issue was...you just asked what root in particular, and then proceeded to be passive-agressively and purposefully obtuse (imo). Message Edited by Dystrax on 11-05-2005 11:52 PM __________________ ------------------------------------------- "The poison of which weaker natures perish strengthens the strong -- nor do they call it poison." --Nietzsche Dystrax Dysenchanted - 60 Coercer The Tribunal - Butcherblock Could I have a more appropriate last name?

11-06-2005, 01:08 PM	#15
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	I thought it was about the current form of the spell. Simply that. My apologies... I did not mean it to seem that way. Message Edited by Nuhus on 11-06-2005 03:46 AM __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

11-06-2005, 04:28 PM	#16
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	Well... I have said that our root is a too good as it is. And I still think it needs a tweek. But when SOE says that there will be a small chage to brake on damage I cant help but look back at the ressistance patch: - It is now slightly harder to land spells and combat arts on orange con mobs. Yeah right! I guess "a small chance to brake on damage" what mezz have. Regards, JackAll

11-06-2005, 11:56 PM	#17
Tehom Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,171	Yeah, the dreaded *slightly* term is rapidly approaching the status of bad joke. I understand they hope people won't make mountains out of molehills by reading too much into patch notes, but it really wrecks their credibility when major changes are passed off as minor. Having something like a 600% increase in the rate in which something happens shouldn't be classified as 'slightly'.

11-07-2005, 12:20 AM	#18
Nuhus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,480	nikecmh42 wrote: I have a test character on Najena, don't we all ? :smileytongue: Yes, that is the one thing you cannot avoid in an MMO. lol Message Edited by Nuhus on 11-06-2005 02:21 PM __________________ SOE will kill off EQ2 before it would naturally die.. 11/10/2004-9/19/2010 - for me

11-07-2005, 08:06 AM	#19
xxalan General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 52	Usermaatre wrote: Who went and told the devs we still had a useful root? BAH!! IT WAS MEEEEEE!!!!!