Returning and need some help/advice plz

ClarkWGriswo · 10-19-2006, 11:08 PM

Hello,I have been away for quite awhile (last time I was here we had just unlocked frogloks lol) Anyway, I don't remember what spells I used to cast, order, dot's etc.What is a typical fight now as far as what we cast on group members, ourselves, etc.BTW I am lvl 43 (played when lvl cap was 50)Thanks

Keitho · 10-19-2006, 11:18 PM

ClarkWGriswold wrote:Hello,I have been away for quite awhile (last time I was here we had just unlocked frogloks lol) Anyway, I don't remember what spells I used to cast, order, dot's etc.What is a typical fight now as far as what we cast on group members, ourselves, etc.BTW I am lvl 43 (played when lvl cap was 50)Thanks

Betray now whiel you got a chance SMILEY

UMMMM Boon of Damned line worthless Hate Decrease on the tank dont put on palidan if they got amends on you ...very bad or if theres a Assassin in grp..Malignent Grasp Melee propc decent Nihilistics Damage proc for tank ...Other then that Long caster timers short recast We are GREAT grp dps ...but not raid

TheStateFish · 10-20-2006, 12:53 AM

Keithoth wrote:
ClarkWGriswold wrote:Hello,I have been away for quite awhile (last time I was here we had just unlocked frogloks lol) Anyway, I don't remember what spells I used to cast, order, dot's etc.What is a typical fight now as far as what we cast on group members, ourselves, etc.BTW I am lvl 43 (played when lvl cap was 50)Thanks
Betray now whiel you got a chance UMMMM Boon of Damned line worthless Hate Decrease on the tank dont put on palidan if they got amends on you ...very bad or if theres a Assassin in grp..Malignent Grasp Melee propc decent Nihilistics Damage proc for tank ...Other then that Long caster timers short recast We are GREAT grp dps ...but not raid

The boon line stacks with most everything, unless the tank you put it on also put their deaggro on you. It also doesn't stack with wizard version. You can also use the low level master version to get the 3% deaggro, if you can't find the master of the higher tier. It's 3% in every tier at master, and a slap in the face to us, but better than nothing. I bet that's all confusing, but read the spell description or search the forums and you'll get it.Casting order depends on your group setup and how much deaggro you have/if your healer doesnt mind you tanking.A typical fight depends on your group setup, you'll have to try it out. The mendor doesn't mind the repeat business, and whats a little debt. We've only got a few group buffs and they dont do much, but again obvious what they are and how to use them when you read the descriptions.Str/Agi aa lines seem to work the best, and speeds up casting, but the aoe spells still feel like they take forever. On raids, if you're in the right group setup, warlocks are at the top of the parse with just a few other classes. So don't put much weight into what that other guy said, he doesn't seem to know the class. We are better raid dps than grp dps, and we are great grp dps. The fights are just too short to get going.

Windowlicker · 10-20-2006, 01:35 AM

TheStateFish wrote:

So don't put much weight into what that other guy said, he doesn't seem to know the class. We are better raid dps than grp dps, and we are great grp dps. The fights are just too short to get going.

I agree 100%.

Keitho · 10-20-2006, 02:07 AM

WE are good Raid DPs Yes but no the best ...no the T1 we should be... I mean single target im glad to be top 4 we are not supposed to be that way..but when you are in aoe fighting with 3 mobs all epic with lots of hp... and an assassin beats you ..or a wizard thats more single target... and im spamming all my buttons i can ..that includes all the procs we have.. im still only top 4.. labs i get about 1.2k zone dps..Longer fights we seem to do better dps ..same with shorter fights under 45 sec for aoe .. but the in betweens ..i feel like we suck ...our raid dps relies on how the other part of the raid is doing ..If everyone is playing the game 100% to there ability we wont get top dps ..if they are sucking well easily shine on the dps chart

10-19-2006, 11:08 PM	#1
ClarkWGriswo Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	Hello,I have been away for quite awhile (last time I was here we had just unlocked frogloks lol) Anyway, I don't remember what spells I used to cast, order, dot's etc.What is a typical fight now as far as what we cast on group members, ourselves, etc.BTW I am lvl 43 (played when lvl cap was 50)Thanks __________________

10-19-2006, 11:18 PM	#2
Keitho General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 196	ClarkWGriswold wrote:Hello,I have been away for quite awhile (last time I was here we had just unlocked frogloks lol) Anyway, I don't remember what spells I used to cast, order, dot's etc.What is a typical fight now as far as what we cast on group members, ourselves, etc.BTW I am lvl 43 (played when lvl cap was 50)Thanks Betray now whiel you got a chance UMMMM Boon of Damned line worthless Hate Decrease on the tank dont put on palidan if they got amends on you ...very bad or if theres a Assassin in grp..Malignent Grasp Melee propc decent Nihilistics Damage proc for tank ...Other then that Long caster timers short recast We are GREAT grp dps ...but not raid __________________

10-20-2006, 12:53 AM	#3
TheStateFish Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 153	Keithoth wrote: ClarkWGriswold wrote:Hello,I have been away for quite awhile (last time I was here we had just unlocked frogloks lol) Anyway, I don't remember what spells I used to cast, order, dot's etc.What is a typical fight now as far as what we cast on group members, ourselves, etc.BTW I am lvl 43 (played when lvl cap was 50)Thanks Betray now whiel you got a chance UMMMM Boon of Damned line worthless Hate Decrease on the tank dont put on palidan if they got amends on you ...very bad or if theres a Assassin in grp..Malignent Grasp Melee propc decent Nihilistics Damage proc for tank ...Other then that Long caster timers short recast We are GREAT grp dps ...but not raid The boon line stacks with most everything, unless the tank you put it on also put their deaggro on you. It also doesn't stack with wizard version. You can also use the low level master version to get the 3% deaggro, if you can't find the master of the higher tier. It's 3% in every tier at master, and a slap in the face to us, but better than nothing. I bet that's all confusing, but read the spell description or search the forums and you'll get it.Casting order depends on your group setup and how much deaggro you have/if your healer doesnt mind you tanking.A typical fight depends on your group setup, you'll have to try it out. The mendor doesn't mind the repeat business, and whats a little debt. We've only got a few group buffs and they dont do much, but again obvious what they are and how to use them when you read the descriptions.Str/Agi aa lines seem to work the best, and speeds up casting, but the aoe spells still feel like they take forever. On raids, if you're in the right group setup, warlocks are at the top of the parse with just a few other classes. So don't put much weight into what that other guy said, he doesn't seem to know the class. We are better raid dps than grp dps, and we are great grp dps. The fights are just too short to get going. __________________

10-20-2006, 01:35 AM	#4
Windowlicker Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,257	TheStateFish wrote: So don't put much weight into what that other guy said, he doesn't seem to know the class. We are better raid dps than grp dps, and we are great grp dps. The fights are just too short to get going. I agree 100%. __________________ -------------------------- Rikko - 80 Berserker Zahne - 80 Warlock

10-20-2006, 02:07 AM	#5
Keitho General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 196	WE are good Raid DPs Yes but no the best ...no the T1 we should be... I mean single target im glad to be top 4 we are not supposed to be that way..but when you are in aoe fighting with 3 mobs all epic with lots of hp... and an assassin beats you ..or a wizard thats more single target... and im spamming all my buttons i can ..that includes all the procs we have.. im still only top 4.. labs i get about 1.2k zone dps..Longer fights we seem to do better dps ..same with shorter fights under 45 sec for aoe .. but the in betweens ..i feel like we suck ...our raid dps relies on how the other part of the raid is doing ..If everyone is playing the game 100% to there ability we wont get top dps ..if they are sucking well easily shine on the dps chart __________________