More dps with 2 symbols ?

[vanessapar]

<DIV>Hi</DIV> <DIV>Are we doing more dps with 2 symbols (+45 divine dd on each one) , with INT line KOS ( to add the spell "legionary" to our dps) and 1h axe procing divine - shadow axe by exemple-  (with the haste buff of the STR line) than with a 2 hander (like claymore or Gotrot).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Did someone has a feedback and some numbers to check pls?</DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV>

[Vulkan_NTooki]

I did prepare for that route.. but then I realized I can use axe, trigger axe haste, swap to 2hander within 2 secs, and I think then the gain from the extra symbol is lost.. I've also read rumors of 2 symbol adornments not stacking. Havent testet this yet tho

[Prrasha]

I tested two-symbols personally on my illusionist... equipped both symbols so the +INT damage modifier would show, adorned one, saw a damage increase, adorned the other, saw another damage increase. Both were glimmering telekinetic (+mental damage) ornaments.

[Vulkan_NTooki]

<DIV>Kewl.. I'll do some testing with 2h + 1 symbol vs 1h + 2 symbols then.. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Prrasha]

One thing to note, though... "Increases all divine damage by up to 40" doesn't mean that. It means "Increases all divine SPELL damage by up to 40". Combat arts (rather, any damage that is STR based rather than INT based) won't be boosted by this adornment.

[equinoxio]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pelarski wrote:<BR>One thing to note, though... "Increases all divine damage by up to 40" doesn't mean that. It means "Increases all divine SPELL damage by up to 40". Combat arts (rather, any damage that is STR based rather than INT based) won't be boosted by this adornment.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Bah this is useless now, I was thinking in buying it, but now i wont, most of our dmg is from CA even if we have big dmg spells.

[Prrasha]

Your other three choices for a symbol (since they're fixing the shield-adornments-on-a-symbol bug in the next Game Update) are these:Flowing Thought 2+1% to spell criticals (this one's Fabled, so will cost 5x more)+5 Disruption/Subjugation skillsIf you're not carrying a bow, +45 divine damage is probably still the best choice. Maaaaaaybe FT2.

[Vulkan_NTooki]

<P>Hmm.. Not sure about this.. but we do have more than just 2 spells dont we? Im pretty sure that the norm is that 50 percent of the dps paladins do is spell dps.</P> <P>Number of spells * 90 / avg seconds it takes to refresh all spells would indicate the increase in dps from those two adornments. Right?</P> <P> </P> <P>No data to test this right now.. but gonna make some up</P> <P>Lets say we have 5 spells</P> <P>Longest recast is 60 seconds. Shortest is 15 seconds. (30,30,15,60,60)=195/5 = approx 40 secs.</P> <P>5*90 = 450 / 40 = approx 11 extra dps. </P> <P>Lets say you just cast 3 of your spells.. you avoid the 2 big nukes at 60 secs.</P> <P>3*90 = 270 / 25(30/30/15) = approx 11 dps</P> <P>If those calcs are correct, then It wont do much increase in dps to adorn these.. but every increase counts.. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </P> <P> </P> <P>Im not math genious tho, so feel free to correct me.. hehe</P>

[OrcSlayer96]

<DIV>I am at work, so i can't bring up a up to date list on what abilities are considered combat arts and what are labeled spells, but another thing to consider on the +45 divine damage to our spells is the casting time on them.   As some have posted above, they are figuring the dps as a 3 second casting time for the full divine damage added.  The best picture we can have is to see what abilities reside in the spell catagory, what their base casting time is, and where do divine procs fall into the equation.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pulling numbers out of thin air, lets say we have 8 divine damage spells of 3 that have 3 sec casts, 4 that have 2 sec casts and 1 that is 1 sec cast.    You recieve your full bonus on 3/8th's of your spells, only 66% effective on 1/2 of them and 33% effective on the the 1 spell.   Let's further say that one of the 2 sec spells have tics to it, that 30 points of damage is divided up to 5 times or 6 extra damage per tick.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the discussion of spell crit by 1%, my memory is fuzzy, if a item procs damage, it uses int as the damage modifier, does it use your spell crit percent to figure if you crit on your proc or your melee crit?  If spell crit, and you have some proccing items, i would lean toward the 1% spell crit for more damage for me, since i carry alot of proccing gear on me and use the vrasakin club alot.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the flowing thought adornment, i could see a benefit if you never switched out your symbol to another symbol.  For me i have a flowing thought 7 one if i want flowing thought.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Too bad they couldnt toss a symetry or healing pulse option additionally to the symbol options, would love a dps mod but that wont happen...<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>