So how goes the Pally class?

[MadGam]

<DIV>I played right on release and kicked huge [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] until the 30's. Then SOE swung nerf bat at us and I got [Removed for Content]. I remember tankin like a mofo until that point. I couldnt get agro fer nuttin. So im thinkin of activating for a month to check it out. So hows the class nowadays? The expansions worth it? Hows abilty to solo? and sry for the ton o questions but how is it looking for groups. I hated waiting and waiting LFG. Talk to meh~</DIV>

[Brigh]

Smite Evil no longer works in PVP / PVE duels with no refund in sight for all the weeks I worked to get it on Venekor.We are doomed.

[khufure]

<div><blockquote><hr>MadGamer wrote:<div>I played right on release and kicked huge [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] until the 30's. Then SOE swung nerf bat at us and I got [Removed for Content]. I remember tankin like a mofo until that point. I couldnt get agro fer nuttin. So im thinkin of activating for a month to check it out. So hows the class nowadays? The expansions worth it? Hows abilty to solo? and sry for the ton o questions but how is it looking for groups. I hated waiting and waiting LFG. Talk to meh~</div><hr></blockquote>If you want to tank groups and solo be a rogue (swashbuckler best).  If you want to tank high-end be a warrior (guardian best).  Paladin is ok.</div>

[Rast]

<P>For Solo, Duo and small group it is hard to beat a paladin as a fighter.  As the mobs scale up, the Paladins abilities do not, so dealing with Epic mobs gets difficult.</P> <P>You aren't a fast killer, but you are durable and sometimes out by yourself, that means alot.</P>

[Vulkan_NTooki]

<P>Hmm.. I find that going offensive with full dps gear(3.5k mit) is the way to go, instead of full defensive 4.8k mit.</P> <P>If I go defensive I run out of power before the mob is dead. If I go offensive the mob is dead way before I run out of power. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> this was tested thoroughly from nameds 65^^^ and werewolves 63/64 ^^^ in Catacombs.</P> <P>Vs the nameds I won 1 out 3 times when in defensive.</P> <P>vs the werewolves I didnt stand a chance lest LoH was up in defensive</P> <P>In offensive I rarely die at all unless I get a lag spike or add.</P> <P> </P> <P>So I say.. unless you have a healer with ye, go full offensive and take em out fast.</P> <P> </P>

[Rast]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> VulcanPromance wrote:<BR> <P>Hmm.. I find that going offensive with full dps gear(3.5k mit) is the way to go, instead of full defensive 4.8k mit.</P> <P>If I go defensive I run out of power before the mob is dead. If I go offensive the mob is dead way before I run out of power. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> this was tested thoroughly from nameds 65^^^ and werewolves 63/64 ^^^ in Catacombs.</P> <P>Vs the nameds I won 1 out 3 times when in defensive.</P> <P>vs the werewolves I didnt stand a chance lest LoH was up in defensive</P> <P>In offensive I rarely die at all unless I get a lag spike or add.</P> <P> </P> <P>So I say.. unless you have a healer with ye, go full offensive and take em out fast.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'd agree with that.  I actually tank in offensive stance.  The bonus you get in defensive stance just isn't worth it for what you lose.

[Anariale]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raston wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> VulcanPromance wrote:<BR> <P>Hmm.. I find that going offensive with full dps gear(3.5k mit) is the way to go, instead of full defensive 4.8k mit.</P> <P>If I go defensive I run out of power before the mob is dead. If I go offensive the mob is dead way before I run out of power. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> this was tested thoroughly from nameds 65^^^ and werewolves 63/64 ^^^ in Catacombs.</P> <P>Vs the nameds I won 1 out 3 times when in defensive.</P> <P>vs the werewolves I didnt stand a chance lest LoH was up in defensive</P> <P>In offensive I rarely die at all unless I get a lag spike or add.</P> <P> </P> <P>So I say.. unless you have a healer with ye, go full offensive and take em out fast.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'd agree with that.  I actually tank in offensive stance.  The bonus you get in defensive stance just isn't worth it for what you lose.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Not to be mean, but you're also lvl 64.</P> <P>Most instances are really easy... but you wont tank in O-stance in Nizara, Nek 70, or any raid instance.</P>

[Boli32]

The major problem with defensive stance is ... well none of your abilitys actually hit the -slashing/disruption/crushign etc. really makes 2/3 ailities just miss or plain ole get resisted. especially against anythgin higher than a blue.At least the WIS line offers +slashing/disruption etc. and is exactly where I am aiming for as I was sick of blowing half my power only to have nothing hit.<div></div>

[MeridianR]

<div><blockquote><hr>Anariale wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Raston wrote: <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> VulcanPromance wrote: <div></div> <p>Hmm.. I find that going offensive with full dps gear(3.5k mit) is the way to go, instead of full defensive 4.8k mit.</p> <p>If I go defensive I run out of power before the mob is dead. If I go offensive the mob is dead way before I run out of power. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> this was tested thoroughly from nameds 65^^^ and werewolves 63/64 ^^^ in Catacombs.</p> <p>Vs the nameds I won 1 out 3 times when in defensive.</p> <p>vs the werewolves I didnt stand a chance lest LoH was up in defensive</p> <p>In offensive I rarely die at all unless I get a lag spike or add.</p> <p>So I say.. unless you have a healer with ye, go full offensive and take em out fast.</p> <hr> </blockquote>I'd agree with that.  I actually tank in offensive stance.  The bonus you get in defensive stance just isn't worth it for what you lose. <hr> </blockquote> <p>Not to be mean, but you're also lvl 64.</p> <p>Most instances are really easy... <b>but you wont tank in O-stance in Nizara, Nek 70,</b> or any raid instance.</p><hr></blockquote>I do it all the time <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Even OTing or MTing trash in DT, LoA, FTH, EH, etc I normally tank in Offensive, unless it's a named.   Of course it depends on the group setup.</div>

[Mardane]

Personally from what I've seen, our new AA's are horrible if you want more DPS. Thats just from a glance and I'm not a very high lvl paladin. I'm just judging the pally AAs vs. My inquisitors. To me they are making a Paladin into a Plate wearing Healer and not a Melee fighter in which we ought to be. these are just my opinions though.

[MeridianR]

<div><blockquote><hr>Mardane wrote:<div></div>Personally from what I've seen, our new AA's are horrible if you want more DPS. Thats just from a glance and I'm not a very high lvl paladin. I'm just judging the pally AAs vs. My inquisitors. To me they are making a Paladin into a Plate wearing Healer and not a Melee fighter in which we ought to be. these are just my opinions though.<hr></blockquote>Seeing our Inquisitor busting out over 1k parses like it was water, is kinda depressing.....</div>

[Anariale]

Im kinda noobish there, but how are Inq's doing 1K parses?

[MeridianR]

<div><blockquote><hr>Anariale wrote:<div></div>Im kinda noobish there, but how are Inq's doing 1K parses?<hr></blockquote>NFC, but it is happening....and every fight.  Pretty sure he is setup for pure offensive aa's, but I haven't found out his setup yet.  Though he is hitting 1k-1.2k all the time.</div>

[Rast]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anariale wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raston wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> VulcanPromance wrote:<BR> <P>Hmm.. I find that going offensive with full dps gear(3.5k mit) is the way to go, instead of full defensive 4.8k mit.</P> <P>If I go defensive I run out of power before the mob is dead. If I go offensive the mob is dead way before I run out of power. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> this was tested thoroughly from nameds 65^^^ and werewolves 63/64 ^^^ in Catacombs.</P> <P>Vs the nameds I won 1 out 3 times when in defensive.</P> <P>vs the werewolves I didnt stand a chance lest LoH was up in defensive</P> <P>In offensive I rarely die at all unless I get a lag spike or add.</P> <P> </P> <P>So I say.. unless you have a healer with ye, go full offensive and take em out fast.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'd agree with that.  I actually tank in offensive stance.  The bonus you get in defensive stance just isn't worth it for what you lose.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Not to be mean, but you're also lvl 64.</P> <P>Most instances are really easy... but you wont tank in O-stance in Nizara, Nek 70, or any raid instance.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I've tried tanking in Defensive.  I just find I'm less effective.  In a raid situation, maybe it's useful but my chances of tanking a raid that isn't greyed out is about 1 in 3000 or worse.  </P> <P>Most of the time I'll be in instances or places like SoS/PoA and while I might get an occasional shot at labs, it is pretty much assured I won't be tanking, so again it doesn't matter.<BR></P>