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[Tames]

<DIV>Given the problems with Sigil of Heroism and the fact that many dont use it because of the bugginess and the fact it can drop all your existing group hate buffs, would people support the removal of the last step before the final Block bonus (reduction to Sigil recast time) and the 5AA points it currently wastes and have it replaced with something useful?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If people think Sigil is great and doesnt cause any problems please say so because I may try using it again. It would be good if they fixed it because its part of our class balance and it should be replaced with something that works so we arent hobbling on one leg (Amends).</DIV>

[equinoxio]

<DIV>Personally I think it's great, been a while since they fixed Sigil, i used constantly and never had any agro problems after it ends.</DIV>

[Tames]

<P>So... you can cast Sigil now and not screw up all your groups Wiz and Scout agro transfers?</P> <P>Amends is still buggy you have to cast it after all other hate buffs/debuffs in your group which is a real problem when you are battle rezzed and others are being rezzed at various times. I really dont understand why they dont just fix it or simply say it wont work with anything else and come clean over it.</P>

[JarredDarque]

<DIV>amends is suppsoed to be fixed within a few weeks,  next LU I believe</DIV>

[Tames]

<P>Yup thats just been confirmed on Amends :smileyhappy:</P> <P>So... you can cast Sigil now and not screw up all your groups Wiz and Scout agro transfers? Perhaps I am living in the past but I gave up using it because of all the problems...</P>

[Madbiker]

Why would you use scout or wizard agro transfer??? Amends is cleary the best option, tell the other classes in group to cancel any deagro procs etc, and make it clear to the top DPS in group to do his/her job, build hate for you.

[MeridianR]

<div><blockquote><hr>Madbiker wrote:<div></div>Why would you use scout or wizard agro transfer??? Amends is cleary the best option, tell the other classes in group to cancel any deagro procs etc, and make it clear to the top DPS in group to do his/her job, build hate for you.<hr></blockquote>It depends on the group setup.  If you have an OT group setup with say the following:-- Paladin-- Mystic-- Templar-- Bruiser-- Swashie-- CoercerYou amend the Bruiser and have the Swashie put SD on you.  If the Swashie is an assassin then even though he is going to put out more dps then the Bruiser, you double dip, and put Amends on the Bruiser while the Assassin casts Murderous Design on you.</div>

[Caetrel]

<hr size="2" width="100%">Why would you use scout or wizard agro transfer??? <hr size="2" width="100%">Prob with that is sorcs have a nice proc they can put on you that generates power when you are hit, but it has a lame 3% hate transfer that borks amends.  If they were to stack, or if amends would simply overwrite the hate portion of the sorc proc, they could run it with no issue. Other than that I really don't get this fix.  I haven't had amends problems (other than if you cross the streams). <div></div>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Caetrel wrote:<BR> <HR width="100%" SIZE=2> Why would you use scout or wizard agro transfer??? <HR width="100%" SIZE=2> Prob with that is sorcs have a nice proc they can put on you that generates power when you are hit, but it has a lame 3% hate transfer that borks amends.  If they were to stack, or if amends would simply overwrite the hate portion of the sorc proc, they could run it with no issue.<BR><BR>Other than that I really don't get this fix.  I haven't had amends problems (other than if you cross the streams).<BR><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I hear ya on the Sorcerer buff Caetrel.  I find at least one of our warlocks/wizards tossing that on me while i have amends on another usually and like has been previously been stated i have to make sure amends was cast last for agro to be stable.  I still think the sorceror agro transfer should of been like our avoidance check buff we place on another, the sorceror gives the target the proc buff while the sorceror gains a 3% hate reduction.  Hate Reduction > Hate Transfers and is much more stable in a group/raid situation.<BR>